Each eternal individual jiva-soul (marginal living entity) is a one of a kind independent PERSON as their own unique spiritual bodily form and personality who are separate from all other personalities, including Krsna.
No two eternal individual jiva-souls are the same they are each unique personalities.
Genuine devotional service to Krsna is ALWAYS based on a "two-way" exchange of personal feelings that manifest as loving acts of reciprocation between Krsna and His pure devotees, who voluntarily contribute their own unique (one of a kind) expressions of devotion in their surrender to Krsna.
Without having loving exchanges in the spiritual planets with Krsna or Visnu, then there can NEVER be genuine selfless love within one's relationship with Krsna.
This is because love only exists in a two-way relationship.
Actions forced in a "one-way" domination denying personal contributions that naturally expand and enrich all loving exchanges, only leads to impersonalism and slavery.
The spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, are NOT a dictatorial "one-sided" impersonal directive, or a domineering dictatorship that denies voluntary loving reciprocation between two.
The jiva-souls voluntary participate in Krsna's pastimes with personal contributions and independent self expression.
This is always encouraged by Krsna and Radharani instead of foolishly believing God (Krsna) does all the thinking for you and decision making for you. No, the spiritual planets are NOT impersonal like, they atr not an emotionally dead place.
The fact is, the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana (the Kingdoms of God) are ALWAYS a loving place, where voluntary cooperation and personal contributions are always going on to enrich, expand and even ad mystery and intrique in one's unique relationship with Krsna.
In the spiritual world, personal unique contributions or service, based on "free will," is the bases of all relationships. There is always loving enriching contributing actions reciprocated with Krsna going on because without these attributes there can never be love.
Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (Washington DC July 8, 1976)
Therefore "loyalty" is ALWAYS a "two-way" street where the jiva-souls have their own unique individual personality separate from Krsna's Personality, who adds their own personal unique expressions into the relationship that expands and forever enhances and enriches one's friendship with Krsna.
Krsna will NEVER "force" us to do what we do not "choose" to do in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana because we are NOT Krsna's mindless "yes" men or women or slave.
Krsna does not control the surrender jiva-souls in every way like a puppet master controls his puppets with the movement of strings, denying self expression and individual contributions.
Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)
So, clearly surrendering to Krsna and His pure devotees is NOT impersonal, it does NOT mean giving up your intelligence, free will, individuality and the awareness of being an independent unique contributing person you are eternally.
The spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana are NOT an impersonal domineering "mindless place" for the individual jiva-souls in their relationship with Krsna. No, the Kingdom of God is not like that in anyway, there is ALWAYS voluntary loving exchanges of feelings and emotions going on, based on reciprocation between Krsna and His devotees.
Srila Prabhupada - “The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary, some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you MUST have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
One's relationship with God (Krsna) in His Kingdom, is NEVER a "one-sided" master/slave mindless none contributing dictatorship as explained above, Prabhupada is telling us here.
The jiva-souls in the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana are forever voluntarily expanding the expression of im individuality with an increasing variety of personal devotional offerings based on free will that make them the PERSONS they are eternally.
Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, personally. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (Lecture SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, India Nov 12, 1973)
Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is NOT love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)
Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)
Srila Prabhupada - "Their (impersonalist) philosophy is oneness. So how there be
love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant..." (Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)
Real love or Bhakti is reciprocal, it is NEVER a "one way street" where surrender to Krsna takes away one's sense of self, free will, individuality and one's personal contributions of voluntary offerings to Radha and Krsna.
Each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality (yet simultaneously dependent on Krsna), separate from Krsna's Personality, which means having their own personality and sense of self, their own "unique identity" that they individually each have.
These attributes are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entity (jiva-soul) making each of them the unique "PERSON" they eternally are.
Free will in its full expression is ONLY fully experienced on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavan, which are the eternal individual jiva-soul's original perpetual homes.
Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."
Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."
Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Discussions with on Rene Descartes philosophy with devotees.)
Vipina Purandara - “Srila Prabhupada, why doesn’t Krsna protect me from thinking independently from Him?"
Srila Prabhupada - “That means you lose your independence, that is force, in Bengali it is said, "If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me. Is it love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)
Krsna does NOT want followers who deny others their right to choose for themselves on how they want to serve Krsna by offering their own unique personal contributions, or even rejecting Krsna if they choose as Prabhupada explains.
There is always a choice and that is why free will ALWAYS exists in God's Kingdom otherwise we are no better than dead emotionless stone.
The spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana are personal Kingdoms based on loving exchanges in a "two-way" relationship of cooperation between Krsna and His devotees, it is NEVER a "one-way" demanding forceful.
Infinitely, we are all Krsna's servant and very dear friends however, that does not mean we have to give up our "free will" and "individuality" to be surrendered to Krsna and be His friend and servant. Free will MUST exist in all the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana that allows voluntary self expression and personal contributions to exist.
This individual quality is part and parcel of the constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (individual jiva-soul) otherwise how can there be unique voluntary contributing acts of genuine loving devotion and exchanges with Krsna?
In other words, Krsna ALWAYS allows "free will" because if He didn't, then loving exchanges and personal contributions can NEVER exist! And that is what you call loveless impersonalism.
This is why the eternal individual jiva-souls MUST have their free will if they are to experience loving exchanges and reciprocation with Krsna.
Srila Prabhupada has made it clear, it is only by Krsna’s sanction EVERYTHING is happening because Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes however, for Him to experience genuine loving exchanges, He must allow the jiva-souls to participate in a "two-way" loving relationship with Him.
Krsna MUST always allow free will if He is to experience love in a two-way exchange.
If Krsna denied the jiva-soul's their "free will" then we are no better than dead useless mindless stone Prabhupada warns us.
Without free will, the jiva-souls are no better than dead stone because they will NEVER experience loving exchanges and emotions in a "two-way" exchange of personal feelings, experienced only when there are voluntary contributions between two.
Love can NEVER be experienced in a dictatorial "one-way" impersonal version of "surrender" in the name of Krsna.
To deny a jiva-soul's individual acts of self expression of personal offerings as an independent individual, and instead allow one's self to be always told what to do and think in the name of surrender, never encouraged to make one's own voluntary contributions, is NOT surrender at all!
The idea that "surrender" means forgetting or extinguishing your free will, which means being encouraged to voluntarily express yourself as a contributing individual, and instead allow Krsna to take complete control of all your thoughts and actions, is not only impersonalism, but also spiritual suicide!
Emotions expressed in a "one-way" mood without any exchange between "two," is NOT love at all, it is selfishness and dangerous impersonalism.
Therefore, without free will, without being allowed to contribute personal offerings and have independent choices, even though fully dependent on Krsna, the jiva-souls will NEVER experience wonderful loving exchanges, reciprocation and being able to offer their own personal unique gifts of individual contributions to Krsna.
As Prabhupada says, without "free will" we are no better than dead stone!
“Free will” or the ability to “choose” is eternally part and parcel of the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) natural constitution and ALWAYS exists without beginning or end in ALL the spiritual planets.
This is the real meaning of personalism.
As said above, free will in its full potential ONLY exists in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavan, which is the jiva-souls original perpetual home.
As Srila Prabhupada explains, the relationship between Krsna and the individual jiva-soul, is never a "one-way" domineering dictatorial relationship that denies personal contributions and choices.
No, loving exchanges on a two-way street are ALWAYS based on the reciprocation between two because love can only exist when there are two as Prabhupada explains-
Srila Prabhupāda – ”Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)
Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada – "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)
Ultimately each individual jiva-soul is a unique person who can choose for themselves to voluntarily serve Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, or ignore Him if they choose.
Free will also must allow this too otherwise free will has no meaning.
As Prabhupada explains, Krsna never forces you to surrender to Him, never forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary.
Srila Prabhupada – "Krsna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. Love is reciprocal, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, at the point of a gun." (July 8, 1976)
Devotee – "In Srimad Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?"
Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy and demand, you love me, you love me, you love me, is it love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you! Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver, you love me, otherwise I shall kill you! That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C).
The jiva-souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are forever expanding their expression of individuality with personal offerings based on free will and selfless loving reciprocation with Krsna, it is NEVER a one-sided master/slave relationship with God (Krsna)
Real love, bhakti or service is reciprocal, as said above, it is NEVER a "one-way street" of domination where "surrender" to Krsna takes away one's free will, sense of self, individuality and the ability to offer personal contributions to Krsna.
This is important to understand because each individual jiva-soul has their own autonomous personality separate from Krsna's Personality, having their own sense of independent self, and their own unique characteristics THEY only have that no other jiva-soul also has.
Each jiva-soul is unique. An independent individual with their own "one of a kind" personality and character.
As said above, all these qualities are part and parcel of each individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) make up in the spiritual world as the "PERSONS" they are eternally.
Srila Prabhupada - “Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. "So God does not interfere with your independence."(Conversation Melb, Australia June 25, 1974).
Having the attributes of being an eternal PERSON also includes having free will as part and parcel of the jiva-souls constitutional make up.
Krsna does not want to be surrounded by mindless drones who have no individual unique personality who can choose to expand, enrich and expand one's relationship with Krsna based on loving exchanges.
Some religious groups wrongly preach that you must give up (surrender) your "free will" to enter Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana.
These nonsense groups should know that you must always have free will so one can voluntary choose to participate in loving exchanges with Krsna.
Such a two-sided relationship is ONLY possible when the jiva-soul HAS their free will!
One must properly study Srila Prabhupada's Books and lectures to understand that surrender does NOT mean giving up your free will and letting Krsna control your every thought and actions.
In one class in one within one of these bogus religious, a so called sannyasi foolishly said-
"If you surrender to Krsna then you do not even need to think for yourself, Krsna will do all the thinking for you."
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This nonsense talk of trying to extinguish one's unique personality and free will is impersonalism and spiritual suicide!
Many have foolishly believe that extinguishing your individuality and free will, is the real meaning of surrender. They demand you must hand over and surrender your individuality, intelligence and free will, and let Krsna's will flow through you and control your every actions and thoughts, just like a puppet master controls a puppet.
Such nonsense "surrender" is Mayavadi impersonal.
Real surrender is using your free will to voluntarily choose to serve Krsna in your own own unique way, by forever increasing your service with a constant variety of personal contributions, and NEVER give up the ability to think for yourself as fools wrongly teach.7
Such nonsense impersonal surrender is really attempting to give up (extinguish) your free will in the name of "surrender" and is impersonalism that will destroy who you really are as a unique individual PERSON, who can always contribute as the unique individual jiva-soul eternally.
The jiva-souls are NOT as some mindless drone in a collective, they are all individuals with their own personalities and unique character.
Love is NEVER a "one-way street", only "free will" makes the relationship with Krsna a "two-way" exchange based on loving voluntary offerings.
This is what REAL personalism is.
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you MUST have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
We should ALWAYS remember the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are personalist - and that means a PERSON who has a unique personality, who is naturally involved in a "two-way" loving exchange with Krsna and NEVER trapped in a one-way mindless dictatorship.
Therefore, being a PERSONALIST in the spiritual world means you MUST have your "free will" to voluntarily experience self expression, otherwise you are just a programmed "yes man or women" in a mindless collective who are never encouraged or nurtured to contribute as an independent individual.
The spiritual world is NOT an impersonal collective of jiva-souls who all think and act in the same way llike a mindless robot machines on a factorise assemble line that is always controlled, manipulated and programmed by the factory owner to only obey and only obey.
Srila Prabhupada - "In the spiritual world service here is always voluntary, some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)
In the spiritual world the choice of the jiva-soul's relationship with Krsna is always voluntary, from a blade of grass to a tree, a cow or gopi or a 4 armed or two armed form on the Vaikuntha planets serving Narayana (Visnu) or in Goloka-Vrindavana with Krsna.^^.
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