Thursday, November 9, 2023

Infinity in the permanent ageless forever youthful spiritual world of eternal Krsna consciousness, is not anything like the constant decaying infinity always going on in the temporary material world of forgetfulness and repeated birth, youth, disease old age and death.

Like it or not, the marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) exist for infinity which means they have no beginning or birth, and no ending or death, as Bhagavad Gita As It Is teaches-

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)

This means if the individual jiva-souls choose to remain in the material world for infinity instead of in the spiritual world's Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, then over that infinity, the individual jiva-soul will possibly experience the nightmare of every material bodily vessel there is in the material world, after all, the stage is infinity. 

This is the consequences of infinity (A beginningless and endless journey) within the temporary material world. 

However, infinity in the perpetual permanent spiritual world, is not like the infinity in the temporary decaying material world. 

This is because Krsna's pastimes are eternal present, and each eternally always exist, forever expanding, forever fresh and never fades away. 

Krsna's pastime's increase and multiply over infinity and never disappear (decay) or end because there is no death or birth in the spiritual world, everything there is alive and eternally exist and never cease to exist, unlike the temporary material bodily vessels (containers) in the temporary decomposing material world.

While the individual jiva-souls are fallen in the material world, all matter (material energy) and the material bodily vessels they occupy, are always in need of constant maintenance due to being in a perpetual state of decline and decay. 

This leads the fallen individual jiva-souls to repeat their material experiences life after life after life, within different material bodies with even the bizarre possibility of experiencing every material bodily vessel there is in the material world,  if they foolishly choose stay in the material world long enough (for an almost eternity).

Infinity (beginningless and endless) in spiritual world is not like that!

Each pastime within Kṛṣṇa's Abode, eternally exists for infinity, existing without repetition or end unlike the temporary fading material world's pastimes. 

The individual jiva-soul's spiritual bodily form's natural home is in the eternal unlimited pastimes of Kṛṣṇa and Visnu in the spiritual world, where there is no birth, disease, old age and death.

However, while in the material world, the individual jiva-souls have an external temporary material covering that is subject to a constant state of progressive maintenance and decomposing. 

Therefore, the individual jiva-souls are forced to constantly change their material bodily vessels when their present material body becomes unfit to occupy. This is all due to the temporary nature of the material world.

There was no beginning to the marginal living entities (individual jiva-souls) existence, nor will there be an end as Bhagavad Gita As It Is explains. 

The individual jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS, as a spiritual bodily form who can never be destroyed, terminated or extinguished, the individual jiva-souls are indestructible.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG, Ch 2 text 12)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “O son of Kuntī, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed." (BG, Ch 2 text 14)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O best among men [Arjuna], the person who is not disturbed by happiness and distress and is steady in both is certainly eligible for liberation." (BG, Ch 2 text 15)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “The material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is sure to come to an end; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata." (BG, Ch 2 text 18)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "If, however, you think that the soul [or the symptoms of life] is always born and dies forever, you still have no reason to lament, O mighty armed." (BG, Ch 2 text 26)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament." (BG, Ch 2 text 27)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "All created beings are unmanifest in their beginning, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?" (BG, Ch 2 text 28)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30)

All individual jīva-souls are ETERNAL persons as a spiritual bodily form, there are no new jiva-souls ever being created by Kṛṣṇa because they have always existed, meaning each individual jiva-soul is beginningless and endless.

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?"  (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, July 9, 1970)

If the individual jiva-souls choose, they can stay in the temporary decaying material universe's cycles of birth and death and cycles of annihilation and creations for an almost infinity!^^. 









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