Thursday, February 29, 2024

Tatastha-sakti refers only to those marginal living entities (jiva-souls) who are already in a fallen conditional state outside of the spiritual world's of the Vaikuṇṭha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.

Therefore, tatastha-sakti only refers to those individual jiva-souls who have ALREADY FALLEN to the material world, or further FALLEN to the impersonal (inactive) brahmajyoti. 

Those jiva-souls who have fallen to this tatastha-sakti designation, means those jiva-souls have fallen to the material world from either the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana. 

They have chosen to leave the Vaikuntha planets or Krsna's central planet of Goloka-Vrindavana to first enter the material world. 

Furthermore, tatastha-sakti also includes those individual jiva-souls who eventually become frustrated with the temporary nature of material existence, due to the constant suffering of experiencing repeated birth and death, causing them to attempt to extinguish their individual existence and unique personality (attempted spiritual suicide), by entering a dormant (inactive) state of consciousness (being almost dead) within the impersonal brahmajyoti.

But ultimately, entering the impersonal brahmajyoti is also only a temporary solution to the jiva-soul's suffering on its endless journey.

This is because the individual jiva-soul's dormant (inactive) existence in the impersonal brahmajyoti is NOT eternal.

Eventually after a long, long, long, long period of inactivity, ALL individual  jiva-souls AGAIN take birth in the material world and again become active.  

Entering the fallen state in the impersonal brahmajyoti is temporary because the original nature of the individual jiva-souls is to be always active in Kṛṣṇa's pastimes.

By rejecting Krsna's pastimes the jiva-souls still remain active but now follow their own self centred desires becoming active within the 8 million 400 thousand species of life (material bodily vessels) within the material world of which only 400 thousand are human species.

This means 8 million species of life have no "free will" in the material world and exists on the basis of instincts only- 

eating, 

sleeping, 

mating,

defending 

Tatastha-sakti does not describe those individual jiva-souls in their original eternal "none-fallen" position in on the Vaikuntha planets or in Goloka-Vrindavana.

Tatastha-sakti therefore only describes the none-Krsna conscious condition of the fallen jiva-souls in both the (active) material world and the impersonal (inactive) brahmajyoti.

Srila Prabhupada - "So this temporary material world is the taṭastha (materially conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual world is the permanent (personal) characteristics. So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (materially conditioned) characteristics and enter the permanent (personal)  characteristics. That is called spiritual elevation."(Lecture CC Madhya-lila 20.354-358, New York City, Dec 28, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "Because the individual soul is apt to fall down sometimes under the clutches of māyā, it is called taṭastha-śakti. Just like in the seaside the shore, the beach, sometimes you see it is covered by water and sometimes it is land. Similarly, when we are covered by māyā, that is our jīva-bhūta stage (which means struggling under the laws of material nature), and when there is no more material covering, that is brahma-bhūta stage (realizing you are the jiva-soul above material influence). When we are Kṛṣṇa conscious, then we are brahma-bhūta (SB 4.30.20), and when we are not Kṛṣṇa conscious, we are materially conscious (jiva-bhuta), that is māyā."(Lecture BG, Ch 7 Text 4-5 Bombay, March 30, 1971)

So, clearly the marginal living entities or jiva-souls are not called tatastha-sakti in the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana as Prabhupada explains above because the word tatastha-sakti is a "conditioned fallen" designation of the jiva-souls. 

In the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana the jiva-souls are NOT in a conditioned fallen state, they are in their "natural state of eternal Kṛṣṇa Consciousness" and therefore NOT called tatastha-sakti.

As said in the beginning,  tatastha-sakti refers to the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) in their "fallen conditional state" in both the material creation and when dormant in the (impersonal) Brahmajyoti.

Revatīnandana dasa - "Srila Prabhupāda you very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the jiva-soul then goes into the brahmajyoti, he is considered still fallen. Still fallen, so does that mean the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen souls? You see my question? If I go there, I'm an individual jīva-soul, and if I go to the brahmajyoti am I still fallen."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Revatīnandana dasa - "That means all jīva-souls there in the impersonal Brahman (Brahmajyoti) are also fallen souls?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition (Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha). The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness."(Letter to Revatinandana dasa, LA 13 June, 1970 and 1971 London)

The full potential and original feature (bodily spiritual non-material form) of all eternal marginal living entities (jiva-souls), is a "two-arm form" like Krsna's Body. 

All individual jīva-souls (marginal living entities) are eternal PERSONS without any beginning or end to their existence, this means there are no new jiva-souls ever being created because they have ALWAYS existed.

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 9th July 1970)

The jiva-souls therefore are eternal spiritual living PERSONS and can never be destroyed, terminated, divided into pieces or extinguished because the individual jiva-souls are indestructible. 

The individual jiva-soul's being “generated” from the "marginal plane or energy" does NOT mean the jiva-souls “originated” from a beginning source because the jiva-souls were NEVER created.

Being "generated" means the individual jiva-souls are eternally part and parcel of a category of living beings called the marginal living entities or marginal plane or energy (individual jiva-souls).

The other categories of living beings are called Viṣṇu-tattva, Visnu-sakti-tattva and Siva-tattva.  

The individual jiva-souls are therefore beginningless and endless as Bhagavad Gita As It Is teaches.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG, Ch 2 text 12, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “As the embodied soul continuously passes, ihkn this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “O son of Kuntī, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed."(BG, Ch 2 text 14, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain."(BG, Ch 2 text 19, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG Ch 2 text 20 "corrected" 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again.Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament." (BG, Ch 2 text 27, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30, 1983 edition)

All individual jīva-souls are ETERNAL persons therefore there are no new jiva-souls being created because they have ALWAYS existed meaning they are beginningless and endless.

Srila Prabhupada - "God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." So Kṛṣṇa is also like human form, two hands, two legs." The human form is also the full manifestation of the jiva-soul." (Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is NOT formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "What is the form of the spiritual body. If the spirit soul is non-material, what is the form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this material body is compared with the dress (costume). Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

As said above, the original feature of the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is like Krsna's Bodily form, they do NOT originate from the impersonal Brahmajyoti or tatastha-sakti as some foolishly believe.

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri dasa – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada - [material form described first] "Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri dasa - "Are they covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary, some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna and become flower, voluntarily, and can change from flower to human body if one desires. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 Text 1-4 Melb, May 20, 1975)

Devotee - "If jiva-soul is non-material, what is the form?

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. If you have got... You have got leg; therefore your pant has got leg. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul has got form, and it has developed into hands, legs, heads, everything. It is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say it has no form."(Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Srila Prabhupāda - "The impersonal conception of the Supreme is so detrimental to the path of devotional service that it is very difficult to associate with the stubborn non-devotees, who always think in terms of material conceptions. Impersonalists always think backwards. They think that because there is form in matter, spirit should be formless; because in matter there is sleep, in spirit there cannot be sleep; and because the sleeping of the Deity is accepted in arcanā worship, the arcanā is māyā. All these thoughts are basically material. To think either positively or negatively is still thinking materially. Knowledge accepted from the superior source of the Vedas is standard." (SB, Canto 3 Ch 9 Text 21, Purport)

Srila Prabhupāda - "This material body we are in is existing on the spiritual body. Just like your shirt. The shirt is existing on your actual hand. The shirt has got a hand because you have got hand. So matter is impersonal. But because the superior prakṛti, jīva, he is person, therefore the matter appears like a person. Because I have got hands and legs, therefore this cloth has got hands and legs. Otherwise the cloth has no hands and legs; it is impersonal. In the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, vāsāṁsi jīrṇāni. This body is just like dress. Just like your coat has got hand, your pant has got leg, but either the pant or coat has no leg, no hand. So, because you have got leg and hand, the coat has got leg and hand. Everyone can understand this. It is very easy. So the original (and eternally), the spirit soul has got form. Therefore the cloth has been cut into form. It is very easy to understand. It Otherwise how you get the form? And in this form the spirit soul is trying to enjoy this material world. But it is not puruṣa. It cannot enjoy. That is false. That is illusion." (Lecture SB, Canto 3 Ch 26 Text 3, Bombay, Dec 15, 1974)

Hayagrīva dasa - "Aquinas believed that God is the only single essence that consists of pure form. He felt that matter is only a potential and, in order to be real, must assume a certain shape or form. Being in the material universe have to acquire an individual form in order to actualize themselves. When matter unites with form, the form gives an object its individuality and personality. Actually it is the spiritual form that gives an object its individuality and personality.

Srila Prabhupāda - Yes, matter has no form but the jiva-soul has got form. Though matter is covering the actual form of the jiva-soul, the matter then appears to have form. Just like the original cloth has no form, but when the tailor cuts the cloth according to the body of the person, then the shirt and coat takes a form. The matter itself has no form. When you take clay, it has no form, but if you make it like a doll, like a man or woman, then it has a form. When you change the clay, and you manufacture a fort, then the fort has form. So, form and formlessness is of the matter, but in the spiritual world everything has got form. The spirit soul has got form. God has got form. This is the truth." (Discussion on Thomas Aquinas philosophy) 

Srila Prabhupāda - "In the material world any form-man or beast or anyone, in the outward, external covering is matter, but within the matter there is the soul. The soul has form and God has form. That is real form. And the material form is simply shirting and coating over the spiritual body."(Discussion on Thomas Aquinas philosophy) 

Srila Prabhupada - "The individual jiva-souls are always called marginal energy whether he is in the spiritual world or in the material world. There are instances where marginal energy jiva-souls have fallen from the spiritual world, just like Jaya and Vijaya. So the potency to fall under the influence of the lower energy is always there. And thus the individual jiva-soul is called as Krsna’s marginal energy."(Letter to Rayarama, Dec 2, 1968)

The individual jiva-souls are ALWAYS eternally spiritual living beings with bodily form in both the spiritual world and material world however, in the material world the eternal spiritual individual jiva-sou's (anti-matter) bodily form is covered by a temporary subtle and gross material bodily container or vessel that eventually decomposes, forcing the eternal spiritual (anti-matter) jiva-soul to constantly change material bodily vessels.

Remember, maya or the material energy, does NOT exist on the Vaikuntha planets or in Goloka-Vrindavana, so Maya is unknown to the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) in both the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana.

In the spiritual world the jiva-souls ARE their eternal spiritual bodily form voluntary serving Krsna or Visnu in unlimited ways and unlimited forms they can choose to serve Krsna as.

Srila Prabhupada - "Some devotees want to serve Krsna as a flower and lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, voluntarily, and can change from flower to human body, that is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, as a field as a chair Krsna sits on, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact."(SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 Text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

In the spiritual world ALL relationships with Krsna are "equally blissful to each other," just like one may like a carnation flower while others may choose to like a rose flower.

However, having free will, individuality, independence, experiencing a unique sense of individual self, and the ability to express all these qualities is eternally the constitutional makeup of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) on the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana..×=×..











Saturday, February 24, 2024

The appearance of Lord Nityānanda.

Srila Prabhupada - "This is the injunction in the śāstra, that this form of the Lord, who is accompanied by His associate... Sāṅgopāṅgāstra-pārṣadam. 

So Caitanya Mahāprabhu is always associated with Śrī Advaita Prabhu, Śrī Nityānanda Prabhu, Śrī Gadādhara Prabhu, Śrī Śrīvāsa Prabhu. 

Therefore the process of worship is śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda. That is perfect process. Not to cut short. No. As it is indicated. 

This is indication in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Kṛṣṇa-varṇaṁ tvisakṛṣṇaṁ sangopangastra... (SB 11.5.32). So when we have to worship Lord Caitanya, we worship with His associates.

Śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda. No cut-short method. So that is sastric injunction. 

So in order to get rid of the sinful activities of this age, it is already prescribed in the śāstras and confirmed by the greatest authority, Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu." (The NOD, Vrndavana, Nov 5, 1972)

Srila Prabhupada - "So all these persons associated with Kṛṣṇa, Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya, Śrī Nityānanda, Śrī Advaita, and Gadādhara and Śrīvāsa, all of them, they are one. 

One in this sense, they are all interested how to push on Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He's trying personally, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. 

And Nityānanda Prabhu, Advaita Prabhu, Śrīvāsa, Gadādhara, they are trying to help. So..., and to approach all these five supreme persons, you require the help of guru.

Therefore the guru is offered first the respectful prayers, vande gurūn. And gurūn, bahu-vacana, plural number, that many gurus. But they are not many; they are one, guru-tattva. 

Just like Kṛṣṇa has many forms, but that does not mean Kṛṣṇa is different. No. Kṛṣṇa is one. Similarly, guru, there may be many gurus, it doesn't matter, but their philosophy must be one: to teach everyone that Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. 

So there may be thousands of gurus, but the guru's business is to teach the disciple that Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That is the test of guru." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.1, Mayapur, March 25, 1975)

Pradyumna dasa - "I offer my respectful obeisances unto Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya and Lord Nityānanda, who are like the sun and moon. 

They have arisen simultaneously on the horizon of Gauḍa to dissipate the darkness of ignorance and thus wonderfully bestow benediction upon all."

Srila Prabhupāda - "vande śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya-

nityāndandau sahoditau

gauḍodaye puṣpavantau

citrau śandau tamo-nudau

(CC Adi 1.2)

So yesterday we discussed the first verse,

(vande) gurūn īśa-bhaktān

īśam īśāvatārakān

tat-prakāśāṁś ca tac-chaktiḥ

kṛṣṇa-caitanya-saṁjñakam (CC Adi 1.1)

Kṛṣṇa Caitanya, Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya, He has got manyfold expansion. The first expansion is prakāśa, svayaṁ-prakāśa, Balarāma. And Nityānanda is Balarāma. 

Vrajendra-nandana yei, śacī-sūta hoilo sei, balarāma hoilo nitāi. We have to understand from the mahājana, Narottama das Ṭhākura. 

Sometimes some foolish people interpret Nityānanda as expansion of Rādhārāṇī, but that is not the fact. Nityānanda is Balarāma. We have to know from mahājana. 

We cannot manufacture our own idea. That is blasphemy, sahajiyā. Yata mat tata pat. These things are not accepted by mahājana.

Mahājana means who follows the previous mahājana. This is the system. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu strictly followed this principle. 

Kṛṣṇa also recommended evaṁ paramparā-prāptam (BG 4.2). We have to receive knowledge through the disciplic succession." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.2, Mayapur, March 26, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "So Nityānanda means prakāśa, svayaṁ-prakāśa, Balarāma. Balarāma is, I mean to say, presenting Kṛṣṇa. 

Therefore Balarāma is guru-tattva. Guru is representative of Balarāma, of Nityānanda, Guru Nityānanda, because He is exhibiting Kṛṣṇa. He is presenting Kṛṣṇa, prakāśa. 

Just like when there is sunshine you can see everything very correctly. That is called prakāśa. In the darkness everything is covered. 

At night we cannot see, but during daytime, when there is prakāśa, illumination, then we can see everything. So Nityānanda Prabhu is Balarāma.

Balarāma is prakāśa-tattva. He's manifesting Kṛṣṇa. Balarāma hoila nitāi. 

So vande śrī... Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya is the Supreme Absolute Personality of Godhead, and next, Nityānanda, or, yes, Nityānanda, is exhibiting Him. 

When Nityānanda was preaching in Bengal, He first of all delivered the Jagāi and Mādhāi. That was his first business. 

He showed how to serve Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya means Kṛṣṇa Himself.

Śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya rādha-kṛṣṇa nahe anya. 

Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa combined together is Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya. And Nityānanda is exhibiting Kṛṣṇa Caitanyadeva." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.2, Mayapur, March 26, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "So how one can exhibit Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu, that is... By His personal example Nityānanda Prabhu has given us lesson. 

When Caitanya Mahāprabhu was sending His devotees to preach and Nityānanda Prabhu was doing that, He used to go with Haridāsa Ṭhākura to preach on the street, home to home. 

So when they saw there was a big crowd on the street, so Nityānanda Prabhu inquired from the people, "Why there is so many people assembled?" 

He was informed that "There are two gundas, rogues. They are creating some trouble." The gundas, their business is to create trouble, that's all. 

Every one of us we know, especially at the present moment in Bengal. Yes. This is due to lack of preaching of Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

Nityānanda Prabhu is not given the chance. Nityānanda Prabhu is very eager to preach, but He's not given chance. 

Actually, those who are proud of becoming descendants of Nityānanda Prabhu... In Bengal there is a family, they say that they are descendants from Nityānanda Prabhu. 

So apart from controversy, even accepting that they are descendants from Nityānanda Prabhu, their business is also to act like Nityānanda Prabhu. 

So that business, what is that business? That is described by Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura, mahājana, pāpī tāpī yata chilo, hari-nāme uddhārilo, ta'ra sākṣī jagāi-mādhāi. 

This is the business of Nityānanda Prabhu along with Caitanya Mahāprabhu. 

Vrajendra-nandana yei, śacī-sūta hoilo sei, balarāma hoilo nitāi." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.2, Mayapur, March 26, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "So here Kṛṣṇa Caitanya and Nityānanda, Their identification is Lord Kṛṣṇa and Balarāma. 

Now, in the Kṛṣṇa incarnation, these two brothers were engaged as cowherd boys and friends of the gopīs, sons of Mother Yaśodā and Nanda Mahārāja. That is actual life in Vṛndāvana. 

Kṛṣṇa and Balarāma, They are village cowherds boy. That is the early age history of Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma. And Their another business, when They went to Mathurā They killed Kaṁsa and the wrestlers, and then again, when They went to Dvārakā, They had to fight with so many demons. 

But Their childhood life, up to sixteenth year, They were in Vṛndāvana, happy life, simply love. That is paritrāṇāya sādhūnām (BG, Ch 4 text 8). 

Sādhus, devotees, they are always anxious to see Kṛṣṇa, Balarāma and Their associates. They are always very much aggrieved on account of separation. 

To give them rejuvenation of life, Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma play Their childhood days in Vṛndāvana." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.2 , Mayapur, March 26, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "That is paritrāṇāya sādhūnām (BG 4.8). Sādhus, devotees, they are always anxious to see Kṛṣṇa, Balarāma and Their associates. 

They are always very much aggrieved on account of separation. To give them rejuvenation of life, Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma play Their childhood days in Vṛndāvana. And out of Vṛndāvana, beginning from Mathurā up to Dvārakā and other places, the business was vināśāya ca duṣkṛtām: killing. 

So, They have got two businesses, one for pacifying the devotees, and the other is to kill the demons. Of course, Kṛṣṇa and Balarāma, They are Absolute Truth. 

There is no difference between killing and loving. They... Absolute. Those who were killed, you know, they were also delivered from this material bondage.

Now these same two brothers have again descended as Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya-Nityānanda."(Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.2, Mayapur, March 26, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "So, Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya and Nityānanda, They came, descended again, being merciful, same Kṛṣṇa. Vrajendra-nandana yei, Śacī-sūta hoilo sei. Same Kṛṣṇa. 

In a different way they canvassed the same principle. (aside:) You can sit down there. You are sleeping. Don't sleep. Don't show that sleeping. Go there. So this is the darkness. And Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu appeared to drive away this darkness—same Kṛṣṇa, the same Kṛṣṇa. 

There is no difference between Kṛṣṇa's preaching and Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu's preaching. There is no difference. 

The difference is that Kṛṣṇa, as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, He is demanding that "You rascal, you surrender unto Me. You are suffering so much. 

You are rascal. I am your father. I want to see you happy; therefore I have come. Surrender unto Me. I shall give you all protection!" (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.2, Mayapur, March 26, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "He does not know that he's suffering. Māyā has given his body to suffer, but even in the pig's body, he's thinking that is enjoying life. This is called māyā. Mohitaṁ nābhijānāti mām ebhyaḥ param avyayam (BG 7.13). 

This is called illusion. Illusion. Everyone in this material world, they are suffering in different grades. Just like in the prison house there are different grades of prisoner: first class, second class, third class. 

But if the first-class prisoner thinks they are enjoying life, that is ignorance. He should know that he's in the prison house. In the prison house where is there enjoyment? It is all suffering. Maybe first-class suffering, (laughter) but it is suffering. 

So they are all in the darkness, and Caitanya Mahāprabhu and Nityānanda Prabhu appeared to dissipate, tamo-nudau, to dissipate this darkness of the whole human society. That is Their kindness." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.2, Mayapur, March 26, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "So Nityānanda Prabhu, being prakāśā, He is manifesting Caitanya Mahāprabhu. He's canvassing the same thing. Caitanya Mahāprabhu is canvassing to accept Kṛṣṇa consciousness, and to accept Kṛṣṇa consciousness through the mercy of Caitanya Mahāprabhu, Nityānanda Prabhu and Their other assistants is easier, easier. 

Therefore we see practically, we have taught our disciples to chant first of all the Pañca-tattva, śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya (devotees chant) prabhu-nityānanda, śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda. Thank you." 

So through the mercy of this Pañca-tattva, easily you can approach Kṛṣṇa, easily. Otherwise how it is possible? 

These Europeans, Americans, they did not know what was Kṛṣṇa. Four or five years ago they were unknown. How they have become so devotee of Kṛṣṇa that ten thousand miles, crossing over the sea, they have come here at Māyāpur, unless they have got developed love for this? 

Their coming is not so easy from neighboring villages, but it costs. They have spent lakhs of dollars—one dollar equal to eight rupees—and they have come here. Why? Through the mercy of Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu." (end) (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.2, Mayapur, March 26, 1975)

Srila Prabhupāda - "Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu and Nityānanda Prabhu, both of Them have come to deliver these fallen souls of this material world who are in the darkness of conception. 

So, They are fighting all over the world this darkness. Just now somebody told me that the king of the Arabia is killed. He is killed now by his nephew or somebody else. This is going on. 

Even in family affairs it is going on. Why? This darkness. Ahaṁ mameti (SB 5.5.8). Janasya moho 'yam ahaṁ mameti (SB 5.5.8). 

So Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu along with His associates, Nityānanda Prabhu, Advaita Prabhu, Gadādhara Prabhu and Śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda, they are trying to dissipate the darkness of this false identification.

Kṛṣṇa simply instructed Arjuna about his darkness of identity, and He punished him, aśocyān anvaśocas tvaṁ prajñā-vādāṁś ca bhāṣase: (BG, Ch 2 text 11) 

"You are talking very big, big words, but you are lamenting on a subject matter on which no learned person laments." 

Gatāsūn agatāsūṁś ca nānuśocanti paṇḍitāḥ. 

That means "You are fool number one." Paṇḍitāḥ. "No paṇḍita makes like that. Now try to understand what is the position." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.3, Mayapur, March 27, 1975)

Nitāi dasa - "May Śrī Nityānanda Rāma be the object of my constant remembrance. Saṅkarṣaṇa, Śeṣa Nāga and the Viṣṇus who lie on the Kāraṇa Ocean, Garbha Ocean and ocean of milk are His plenary portions and the portions of His plenary portions."

Srila Prabhupāda - "saṅkarṣaṇaḥ kāraṇa-toya-śāyī

garbhoda-śāyī ca payobdhi-śāyī,

śeṣaś ca yasyāṁśa-kalāḥ sa nityā-

nandākhya-rāmaḥ śaraṇaṁ mamāstu

(CC Adi 1.7)

So, Kavirāja Gosvāmī, after offering his respectful obeisances to Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu and describing the purpose of His incarnation, He is now trying to describe Nityānanda. Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Prabhu Nityānanda.

Pañca-tattva, one after another... First of all Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, then Nityānanda Prabhu, then Advaita Prabhu, then Gadādhara, and then Śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda. 

He is summarizing the obeisances to the Pañca-tattva. Now, what is the identification of Nityānandākhya-Rāma? Rāma, Balarāma, and Baladeva, Saṅkarṣaṇa—there are so many names of Śrī Baladeva.

In the Upaniṣad it is said, nāyam ātmā bala-hīnena labhyo: "Self-realization is not possible without being strengthened by the mercy of Balarāma." 

Sometimes they take it foolishly, that "Without being very strong bodily, nobody can realize self." But that is not the fact. Nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhyo na medhayā na bahunā śrutena. 

This is the Vedic injunction. That bala-hīnena means without being favored by Nityānanda Prabhu, Balarāma." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.7, Mayapur, March 31, 1975)

Srila Prabhupāda - "Balarāma is Nityānanda. That we know by following the footprints of mahājanas. Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura says, 

vrajendra-nandana yei, śacī-suta hoila sei, balarāma hoila nitāi:

"Balarāma has appeared now as Nityānanda." 

So bala means strength, spiritual strength, and rāma means enjoyer. Iti rāma padenāsau param brahma ity abhidhīyate. Rāma means Para-brahman.

Satyānande cid-ātmani. Ramante yoginaḥ anante (CC Madhya 9.29). Yogi, they are also interested in enjoying life. 

There are different kinds of yogis. Of all the yogis, the bhakti-yogi, that is the best. That is said by Kṛṣṇa:

yoginām api sarveṣāṁ

mad-gatenāntarātmanā

śraddhāvān bhajate yo māṁ

sa me yuktatamo mataḥ

(BG 6.47)

Yogis, there are many yogis, but the bhakti-yogi is the best because by bhakta-yoga only, you can approach the Supreme Personality of... There is no other way. 

Jñāna, karma, and haṭha-yoga, they can help little, but they are not competent to approach the Supreme Personality of Godhead. 

Kṛṣṇa says in the Bhagavad-gītā, bhaktyā mām abhijānātievaṁ (BG 18.55). If you want to know Kṛṣṇa, then karma, yoga, jñāna, these, although they can elevate you to some extent, but you cannot approach the Supreme Personality of Godhead by karma, jñāna, yoga. 

If you want to know Kṛṣṇa as He is, then you have to accept the path of bhakti-yoga. 

Kṛṣṇa says personally, bhaktyā mām abhijānāti yāvān yaś cāsmi tattvataḥevaṁ prasanna-manaso. And in order to attain this perfection of bhakti-yoga, you require strength from Balarāma, Saṅkarṣaṇa."(Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.7, Mayapur, March 31, 1975)

Srila Prabhupāda - "So this word rāma is explained in the śāstra that one who is expert in enjoying eternal happiness, he is perfect yogi. 

Not flickering happiness. Flickering happiness, the yogis are not interested in flickering happiness or material happiness. 

Material happiness is always flickering, temporary. That is not happiness, but we take it. Real happiness is when we enjoy life with Kṛṣṇa, rāma. That is real happiness. Ramante yoginaḥ anante satyānande. That is ananta. 

Ananta means unlimited. So our... we are seeking after ānanda. Ānandamayo 'bhyāsāt (Vedānta-sūtra 1.1.12). 

By our nature we want to be very blissful, always happy. That is our nature. And we can possess, revive our nature of eternal happiness, provided we try to get it in this human form of life. 

There is no difficulty if we follow the path enunciated by great authorities. Mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ (CC Madhya 17.186). 

So Nityānanda Prabhu, Caitanya Mahāprabhu, and Their disciples, they are all mahājanas, great personalities. 

If we follow their principles, then it is very easy. There is no difficulty. But difficulty is that we do not follow." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.7, Mayapur, March 31, 1975)

Srila Prabhupāda - "This is the process. You'll find this later on. So payobdhi-śāyī and śeṣaś ca, Sesa, that is also incarnation of Viṣṇu. 

He is sustaining the body of Viṣṇu in different oceans, and He is serving the Lord Viṣṇu in so many ways. Śayyā, āsana, sitting place, bed, and upavīta, and clothes, garments—so many ways He is serving. 

Now, all these different incarnation of Viṣṇu is summarized here by Kavirāja Gosvāmī that "All of them are partial expansion of Nityānanda," to understand what is Nityānanda Prabhu. 

The prakāśa-vigraha... Kṛṣṇa first. Then His prakāśa-vigraha, manifested form, a little difference in bodily feature, but the same powerful, that is Balarāma. 

And then, from Balarāma, Saṅkarṣaṇa, Pradyumna, Aniruddha, in this way, quadruple expansion...

Then Nārāyaṇa, then another quadruple expansion, then from that quadruple, second manifestation of Saṅkarṣaṇa, all these different Viṣṇus, Kāraṇa-toyāśāyī, Garbhodakaśayī, Kṣīrodhi-śāyī—in this way, expanding. 

Dīpārcir eva hi daśāntaram abhyupetya (Bs. 5.46). Just like you take one candle, then you lit up another candle, another candle, another candle. 

All these candles are equally powerful, but still, the calculation is, Kṛṣṇa is the first candle, Balarāma is the second candle. In this way, viṣṇutayā vibhāti—the expansion of Viṣṇu, innumerable." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.7, Mayapur, March 31, 1975) 

Srila Prabhupāda - "We have to follow the śāstra; otherwise there is no other alternative to understand the exalted position of Kṛṣṇa, how He expands in different forms, as Viṣṇu, as Nārāyaṇa. 

Sometimes they argue that Kṛṣṇa is incarnation of Viṣṇu. That is also truth. You'll find in Caitanya... Truth in this way, that when any incarnation comes, He comes through the Kṣīrobdhi-śāyī Viṣṇu. But Kṣīrobdhi-śāyī is partial expansion of Kṛṣṇa. 

The subject matter is very intricate, but if we follow the śāstra and accept it, then some clear conception we can have.

So Nityānanda Rāma... So yasyāṁśa sa nityānanda-rāmaḥ. Nityānanda is Balarāma. 

Therefore He is said, nityānandākhya-rāmaḥ. Just like Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu... Kṛṣṇāya-kṛṣṇa-caitanya nāmne: "I offer my respectful obeisances to Kṛṣṇa now appeared as Kṛṣṇa Caitanya." 

He's Kṛṣṇa. Similarly, Nityānanda is Balarāma. So balarāma hoilo nitāi. Therefore it is said here, nityānandākhya-rāmaḥ: 

"He's Rāma, Balarāma, but at the present moment He has appeared by the name Nityānanda."(Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.7, Mayapur, March 31, 1975) 

Nitāi dasa - "I surrender unto the lotus feet of Śrī Nityānanda Rāma, who is known as Saṅkarṣaṇa in the midst of the catur-vyūha consisting of Vāsudeva, Saṅkarṣaṇa, Pradyumna and Aniruddha. 

He possesses full opulences and resides in Vaikuṇṭhaloka, far beyond the material creation." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.8, Mayapur, April 1, 1975)

Srila Prabhupāda - "māyātīte vyāpi-vaikuṇṭha-loke

pūrṇaiśvarye śrī-catur-vyūha-madhye

rūpaṁ yasya udbhāti saṅkarṣaṇākhyaṁ

taṁ śrī-nityānanda-rāmaṁ prapadye

(CC Adi 1.8)

So identification of Nityānanda Prabhu. So He is the second Saṅkarṣaṇa also. The first Saṅkarṣaṇa...From Vāsudeva, Saṅkarṣaṇa, Pradyumna, Aniruddha, four, quadruple expansions of Balarāma... 

Then, from Saṅkarṣaṇa, first Saṅkarsana, the Nārāyaṇa, four-handed Nārāyaṇa, that is the next expansion, and again, from Nārāyaṇa, there is another quadruple expansion, second Saṅkarṣaṇa, Vāsudeva, Pradyumna. 

So the second Saṅkarṣaṇa also is expansion of Nityānanda Rāma, Balarāma. 

So where is this Vaikuṇṭhaloka? 

It is rather imprudent to inquire because we cannot calculate even this material world, what is the length and breadth of this universe. 

This is only one universe. 

This is called māyika brahmānanda. Māyika means shadow. Shadow... Shadow is existing on account of the real." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.9, Mayapur, April 2, 1975)

Nitāi dasa - "I offer my full obeisances unto the feet of Śrī Nityānanda Rāma, whose partial representation called Kāraṇodakaśāyī Viṣṇu, lying on the Kāraṇa Ocean, is the original puruṣa, the master of the illusory energy, and the shelter of all the universes." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.9, Mayapur, April 2, 1975)

Srila Prabhupāda

"māyā-bhartājāṇḍa-saṅghāśrayāṅgaḥ

śete sākṣāt kāraṇāmbhodhi-madhye

yasyaikāṁśaḥ śrī-pumān ādi-devas

taṁ śrī nityānanda-rāmaṁ prapadye

(CC Adi 1.9)

Yesterday we discussed about pūrṇāiśvarya, saṅkarṣaṇākhyam, nityānanda-rāmam, the Deity, the superintending Deity of the spiritual world. Here also, anywhere, the master is Kṛṣṇa in His different forms. 

So, just like for management we expand some secretaries, or personal representatives, similarly there is good management also in Kṛṣṇa's affairs. 

The original person is Kṛṣṇa, and His expansions, they are also as good as Kṛṣṇa, but departmental." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.10, Mayapur, April 3, 1975)

Nitāi dasa - "I offer my full obeisances unto the feet of Śrī Nityānanda Rāma, a partial part of whom is Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu. 

From the navel of Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu sprouts the lotus that is the birthplace of Brahmā, the engineer of the universe. 

The stem of that lotus is the resting place of the multitude of planets." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.10, Mayapur, April 3, 1975)

Srila Prabhupāda

"yasyāṁśāṁśaḥ śrīla-garbhoda-śāyī

yan-nābhy-abjaṁ loka-saṅghāta-nālam

loka-sraṣṭuḥ sūtikā-dhāma dhātuḥ

taṁ śrī-nityānanda-rāmaṁ prapadye

(CC Adi 1.10)

We have already discussed Kāraṇodakaśāyī, who is the plenary portion of Saṅkarṣaṇa. Now, from Kāraṇodakaśāyī is Garbhodakaśāyī.

Garbhodakaśāyī means this, within the womb or bottom of this universe, there is a ocean, big ocean, and in that ocean the plenary portion of Kāraṇodakaśāyī Viṣṇu enters. 

This is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā, viṣṭabhya aham idaṁ kṛtsnam ekāṁśena sthito jagat (BG, Ch 10 text 42). 

By one portion, the Garbho..., er, Kāraṇodakaśāyī Viṣṇu enters each universe, and within that universe He creates a ocean by His perspiration. Now, there are so many questions: 

"How these oceans are created?" 

The scientist says that it is a combination of hydrogen and oxygen gas. So wherefrom this gas came? 

The answer is here. Of course, from the gas, water comes out. If you cover one boiling pot, the gas, the vapor coming... And you will find spots of water. So from the gas, the water comes, and from the water, gas comes."

Nitāi dasa - "I offer my respectful obeisances unto the feet of Śrī Nityānanda Rāma, whose secondary part is the Viṣṇu lying in the ocean of milk. That Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu is the Supersoul of all living entities and the maintainer of all the universes. Śeṣa Nāga is His further subpart."

Srila Prabhupāda

"yasyāṁśāṁśāṁśaḥ parātmākhilānāṁ

poṣṭā viṣṇur bhāti dugdhābdhi-śāyī

kṣauṇī-bhartā yat-kalā so 'py anantas

taṁ śrī-nityānanda-rāmaṁ prapadye 

(CC Adi 1.11)

So, all these Viṣṇu descriptions beginning from Kāraṇodakaśāyī, Mahā-Viṣṇu, who is producing universes... Then next Viṣṇu is Garbhodakaśāyī, means the same Mahā-Viṣṇu entering in each and every universe. 

Then again, the same Viṣṇu, for maintenance of this material world, is lying on the kṣīrabdhi, ocean of milk. 

And the same Viṣṇu, Kṣīrabdhiśāyī Viṣṇu, is maintaining not only these universal affair, but also He is entering in each and every living being's heart, even within the atom." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.11, Mayapur, April 4, 1975)

Srila Prabhupāda - "So this is our position. We do not know who is the actual architect behind all this nice material creation. That is Mahā-Viṣṇu, and His incarnation is Advaita Prabhu. 

Caitanya Mahāprabhu is directly Kṛṣṇa, or Kṛṣṇa's incarnation. Nityānanda Prabhu is directly incarnation of Baladeva, and similarly, Śrī Advaita Prabhu is incarnation of Mahā-Viṣṇu. 

So all of Them are on the equal footing. Śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda, śrī-advaita. 

They are on the same equal level. And then śakti-tattva, Śrī-Gadādhara and Śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda. 5

Gadādhara is the internal energy, and Śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda, they are marginal energy. 

So Īśvara-tattva and śakti-tattva. So within this group, there is no this material energy because in the spiritual world there is no action of material energy, only spiritual energy. 

In the material world there is action of material energy. In the spiritual world there is no material energy. 

Therefore, in this Pañca-tattva, there is no mention of material energy because in the spiritual world there is no material energy. Māyā-gandha-hīna." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.12, Mayapur, April 5, 1975) 

Srila Prabhupāda - "So we have to go through like that. As Caitanya caritāmṛta Kar is explaining, we have to follow this principle. 

Then if you are really inquisitive to learn the Absolute Truth, they will explain, as here it is explained that here Advaita Ācārya is īśvara, He's incarnation of Mahā-Viṣṇu. 

Sometimes Advaita Ācārya is called Sadāśiva avatāra. The Sadāśiva is also expansion of Mahā-Viṣṇu. So either way you say, incarnation of Sadāśiva or Mahā-Viṣṇu, it doesn't matter. But Advaita Ācārya is īśvara-tattva.

He's not śakti-tattva. He's īśvara-tattva. And we are all śakti-tattva; therefore there is difference. Śakti-śaktimān. 

Although there is no difference abhinna, but still, śakti-tattva is superior, er, śaktimān tattva is superior than śakti-tattva. 

So, in this way try to understand Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, Nityānanda Prabhu, Advaita Prabhu, and Gadādhara and Śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda. 

But they are so kind because they have come to deliver the fallen souls. If you sincerely chant their name, śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda..."(Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.12, Mayapur, April 5, 1975) 

Srila Prabhupāda - "So gradually the author is offering respect, śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda śrī-advaita. He has already offered respect to Lord Caitanya and Lord Nityānanda. 

Now it is the turn for Śrī Advaitācārya. So advaitam, nondifferent, expansion of Mahā-Viṣṇu. 

Therefore He is Viṣṇu-tattva; He is not jīva-tattva (jiva-soul). Therefore He is advaita. Advaitam acyutam anādim ananta-rūpam (Bs. 5.33).

Kṛṣṇa has got unlimited number of expansions: expansion, expansion of the expansion, then expansion of the expansion, in this way. 

So, Advaitācārya is expansion of Kṛṣṇa, it is already explained, therefore He is called advaitam, and ācāryaṁ bhakti-śaṁsanāt." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.13, Mayapur, April 6, 1975)  

Srila Prabhupāda - "So Advaita Ācārya is the typical example how to become ācārya. All are our ācāryas, śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda, śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda. 

All of them are ācāryas because they are following the ācārya, supreme ācārya, Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Therefore they are ācārya. 

Evaṁ paramparā-prāptam imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ (BG, Ch 4 text 2). 

So, we have to follow the ācārya. Then, when we are completely, cent per cent follower of ācārya, then you can also act as ācārya. This is the process. Don't become premature ācārya. 

First of all follow the orders of ācārya, and you become mature. Then it is better to become ācārya. Because we are interested in preparing ācārya, but the etiquette is, at least for the period the guru is present, one should not become ācārya. 

Even if he is complete he should not, because the etiquette is, if somebody comes for becoming initiated, it is the duty of such person to bring that prospective candidate to his ācārya. Not that "Now people are coming to me, so I can become ācārya." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.13, Mayapur, April 6, 1975)

Srila Prabhupāda - "That will be falldown. Just like during the lifetime of our Guru Mahārāja, all our Godbrothers now who are acting as ācārya, they did not do so. That is not etiquette. Ācāryaṁ māṁ vijānīyāt na avaman... 

That is insult, so if you insult your ācārya, then you are finished. 

Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādo yasya aprasādāt na gatiḥ kuto 'pi - finished. 

If you displease your ācārya, then you are finished. Therefore it is said, Caitanya Mahāprabhu says to all the ācāryas, Nityānanda Prabhu, Advaita Prabhu and Śrīvāsādi gaura bhakta vṛnda, they are all carriers of orders of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. 

So try to follow the path of ācārya process. Then life will be successful.

And to become ācārya is not very difficult. 

First of all, to become very faithful servant of your ācārya, follow strictly what he says. Try to please him and spread Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That's all. It is not at all difficult. 

Try to follow the instruction of your Guru Mahārāja and spread Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That is the order of Lord Caitanya." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.13, Mayapur, April 6, 1975) 

Srila Prabhupāda - "So to achieve strength, Kṛṣṇa is prepared to help us in so many ways. That He is pañca-tattvātmakam, He is coming as Lord Kṛṣṇa, and ordering, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja (BG, Ch 18 text 66). 

Still we are making mistake; we don't accept Kṛṣṇa's word. Therefore Kṛṣṇa is coming as Caitanya Mahāprabhu, along with His associates Nityānanda Prabhu, Advaita Prabhu, Gadādhara Prabhu, just to teach us the same process - 

How to surrender to Kṛṣṇa. So our real business is that, how to surrender to Kṛṣṇa. And if we take shelter of Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu, along with His associates, then the task becomes very easy. Yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtana-prāyair yajanti hi su-medhasaḥ (SB, Canto 11 Ch 5 text 32). 

Very easy; not at all difficult. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's method for approaching Kṛṣṇa is very, very easy. Now we have got this center, Māyāpur center. We have got hundreds of centers, but this is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's birthplace."(Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.14, Mayapur, April 7, 1975) 

Srila Prabhupāda - "So our only request is that take shelter of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, chant always 

śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda, and Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare. (devotees chant also) 

Thank you. So it is not very difficult task. Anyone, just like the children, the boys, two years, three years old, they are also doing the same thing. Where is the difficulty? 

Young man can perform the same thing; old man can also perform; everyone can perform, it is so nice. So do not forget this principle,

pañca-tattvātmakaṁ kṛṣṇaṁ

bhakta-rūpa-svarūpakam

bhaktāvatāraṁ bhaktākhyaṁ

namāmi bhakta-śaktikam.

Bhakta-śakti, everything requires strength, so we can derive strength by chanting Caitanya Mahāprabhu's name, and chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. You don't require very high education, neither you require to take your birth in very high family. Ahaitukī." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 1.14, Mayapur, April 7, 1975) 

Srila Prabhupāda - "Kevala ānanda-kanda, parama-karuṇa - here are many incarnation, but no better incarnation, no magnanimous incarnation, like Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, Nityānanda Prabhu." 

Nityānanda Prabhu is always... Vrajenda-nandana yei, śaci-suta haila sei, balarāma haila nitāi. 

Nitāi-Gaura means—Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, who was formerly Kṛṣṇa... He's Kṛṣṇa still. Just for our understanding... 

As we think that "I had my former life"—actually I had—but that former life is finished; I am now a new life. 

But in case of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, it is not like that. It is simultaneously existing. Kṛṣṇa is also existing, and Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu also existing. 

The example is given in this connection, just like the sun. Now it is not visible in India, the sun. But other part, in America, it is visible. So sun is there, but it is not visible at the present moment in India. 

Similarly, Kṛṣṇa is there, Caitanya Mahāprabhu is there. Their pastimes are there, it is going on, but it is now not visible in this part of the universe. 

There are innumerable universes, so by rotation Kṛṣṇa or Caitanya Mahāprabhu comes to a particular universe at a certain period. 

Just like the sun will rise again, tomorrow morning, at six p.m., at six a.m., similarly, Caitanya Mahāprabhu and Kṛṣṇa and all His incarnation, they are rotating regularly." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 7.1, Mayapur, March 1, 1974) 

Srila Prabhupāda - "So, Kavirāja Gosvāmī the author of Caitanya-caritāmṛta, he first offered his obeisances to Lord Caitanya in the first verse, agaty-eka-gatiṁ natvā (CC Adi 7.1). 

After offering obeisances to the Supreme Lord, who is the only hope for the hopeless, now he's again offering, jaya jaya mahāprabhu śrī kṛṣṇa caitanya. 

Prabhu and Mahāprabhu. Nityānanda Prabhu, Advaita Prabhu. 

Any Vaiṣṇava is addressed as prabhu, but Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Mahāprabhu, the topmost prabhu, the master prabhu. 

All others are servant prabhu. Just like, it is very easy to understand: 

if you are working in an office, your immediate boss, you consider him as your master, but he's not the master. 

The master of the office is the managing director, manager or the proprietor. But still those who are working under him, sub-prabhus, they are also called prabhu. 

So all Vaiṣṇava should be addressed as prabhu; that is the etiquette. But Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Mahāprabhu. As soon as you utter the name of Śrī Caitanya, the Mahāprabhu... Because He's the greatest master." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 7.2, Mayapur, March 2, 1974)

Srila Prabhupāda - "So it is the business of Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu... He's so magnanimous that He is distributing Kṛṣṇa. So take shelter of Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu. 

You have come from distant place, you have spent much money, thousands of money to come here. 

Poll pTake advantage of this journey and chant śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda. 

Then you'll get Kṛṣṇa. Then you'll get, surely. This land, Caitanya Mahāprabhu's birthsite. So anyone who takes shelter of Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu, he is dhanya, he is glorified." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 7.2, Mayapur, March 2, 1974)

Srila Prabhupāda - "Acāryāṁ māṁ vijānīyān (SB 11.17.27). So, that guru-tattva has been explained by the author, Kavirāja Gosvāmī in five chapters, six chapters, and the seventh chapter he's describing the five tattvas. 

Īśa-prakāśa. Nityānanda Prabhu is the direct manifestation of the  Śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya rādhā-kṛṣṇa nahe anya. 

When you speak of Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya, we should understand immediately that He's Kṛṣṇa in Rādhā's attitude, Rādhā-bhāva. 

Kṛṣṇa, Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa, They are one; They are not different. 

Rādhā kṛṣṇa praṇayab vikṛtir hlādinī śaktir asmād (CC Adi 1.5).

Rādhārāṇī is expansion of Kṛṣṇa's pleasure potency. So Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Kṛṣṇa Himself, but the pleasure potency of Kṛṣṇa is prominent in His activities. 

Because Kṛṣṇa, in order to understand Himself, He took the position of Rādhārāṇī to understand Himself. 

Personally He could not understand His potencies, but when He appeared as Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu in the attitude of Rādhārāṇī's love for Kṛṣṇa, kṛṣṇa-prema, then He could fully understand Him. 

These are very intricate subject matter to understand, but this is the fact." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 7.3, Mayapur, March 3, 1974)

Srila Prabhupāda - "So Nityānanda Prabhu is the immediate expansion of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu appeared here at Māyāpur, this very place where you are now sitting, with all these five features: 

Nityānanda Prabhu, Śrī Advaita Prabhu, and Gadādhara Prabhu, Śrīnivāsa Prabhu. 

So He Himself, Kṛṣṇa, and Nityānanda Prabhu is immediate expansion of His personal self. 

Advaita Prabhu is incarnation of Kṛṣṇa, Viṣṇu, Mahāviṣṇu, the three of them. 

And Gadādhara Prabhu is the expansion of spiritual energy (internal energy headed by Radharani); and Śrīnivāsa Prabhu is the expansion of His marginal potency, marginal energy, jīva-tattya (jiva-soul). 

Jīva-tattva, śakti-tattva, prakāśa-tattva, and avatāra-tattva, and He Himself. 

This Pañca-tattva will be explained in this chapter. 

That is the proposal of the author. Guru-tattva kahiyāchi ebe pāñcera vicāra. Consideration of the five. 

So although the Absolute Truth is one, He expands in His various features. That has been divided in Caitanya Mahāprabhu's practical exposition of tattva-vicāra, in six: five personal, and the guru is also representative. 

Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair. Guru is also expansion of Hari for the benefit of the conditioned soul. For the benefit of the conditioned soul, He is within everyone's heart." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 7.3, Mayapur, March 3, 1974)

Srila Prabhupāda - "Therefore, Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu is practically teaching us with His five associates: Advaita, Nityānanda, Gadādhara and Śrīvāsādi gaura-bhakta-vṛnda. 

Therefore if we want to approach the Absolute Truth, it is our duty to offer our respect to these five features of the Lord.

śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda

śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda.

(I offer my obeisances to Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya, Prabhu Nityānanda, Śrī Advaita, Gadādhara, Śrīvāsa and all others in the line of devotion.)

Therefore, in our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, we first of all worship the Pañca-tattva: śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda śrī-advaita gadādhara—then we chant Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra. Then it will be successful. 

Without going through the Pañca-tattva, with the mercy, nobody can understand Kṛṣṇa. It will remain a myth." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 7.3, Mayapur, March 3, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada - "So here Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu has appeared with Pañca-tattva. 

Kṛṣṇa-varṇaṁ tviṣā-kṛṣṇaṁ sāṅgopāṅgāstra-pārṣadam, yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtana (SB 11.5.32). 

He has appeared, these five tattvas. In our exhibition ground we have first placed these five tattvas: Caitanya Mahāprabhu, Nityānanda Prabhu, Gadādhara Prabhu, Advaita Prabhu, and Śrīvāsa Ṭhākura. 

Nityānanda Prabhu is the immediate expansion of Caitanya Mahāprabhu, Baladeva-tattva. 

Baladeva means who gives strength for spiritual advancement. Nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhyo nāyam ātmā balahinena labhyaḥ. 

These are the Vedic injunctions. So without Baladeva's or Nityānanda's grace, one cannot make advancement. 

āra kabe nitāi-cānda karuṇā ha-ibe

saṁsāra vāsanā mora kabe tuccha ha'be.

This is the grace of Nityānanda Prabhu. Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura explains, āra kabe nitāi-cānda, karuṇā ha-ibe. Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura is aspiring for the day when Nityānanda Prabhu will be pleased upon him. 

Just like Jagāi-Mādhāi was delivered by the mercy of Śrī Nityānanda Prabhu, so we have to pray Nityānanda Prabhu. He's very merciful. He's so kind, Baladeva, He gives spiritual strength. Then we can approach the Supreme Lord. 

Therefore we chant "Nitāi-Gaura," this is the process, we cannot change this policy. Pañca-tattva must be worshiped; otherwise wherefrom we shall get our life? 

The spiritual master... Nityānanda Prabhu is the spiritual master. Or spiritual master is the replica, representation, of Nityānanda Prabhu.

So when Nityānanda Prabhu is pleased, then we become detached from this material attraction." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 7.4, Mayapur, March 4, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada - "So in this way, if we try to understand that Pañca-tattva, śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya prabhu-nityānanda, śrī-advaita gadādhara śrīvāsādi-gaura-bhakta-vṛnda... 

This is Pañca-tattva- 

Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya, Śrī Nityānanda, Śrī Advaita, Śrī Gadādhara, and Śrīvāsādi. Śrīvāsādi means jīva-tattva (jiva-soul). 

The jīva-tattva, śakti-tattva, viṣṇu-tattva, these are all tattvas. So Pañca-tattva. Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya is the supreme tattva, Kṛṣṇa. Śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya, rādhā-kṛṣṇa nahe anya. 

We are worshiping Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa. So Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya is Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa combined.

Śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya, rādhā-kṛṣṇa nahe anya." (Lecture CC Adi-lila 7.5, Mayapur, March 7, 1974)





Srila Prabhupada - "Kṛṣṇa as His original childhood Form NEVER leaves Vṛndāvana, all the Forms of Kṛṣṇa that appear elsewhere (the Vaikuntha planets and the material world) are His Viṣṇu tattva expansions."(BG, Ch 10 text 37)

Srila Prabhupada - "The original Lord Kṛṣṇa never leaves Goloka Vṛndāvana. All the plenary expansions are one and the same Viṣṇu-tattva however, there is no difference in Their potency." (SB, Canto 3 Ch 1 Text 34)

Krsna is likened to the original candle that lights all other candles of the same luminosity. 

Only Kṛṣṇa has all of His 64 qualities in full all the time, unlike all the other variety of living entities like-

1 - Visnu-tattva (Balarama, Visnu, Narayana, Maha-Visnu, Garbhodakashayi Visnu, Paramatma) exhibits 60 of 64 or 93.75% 

2 - Visnu-"sakti"-tattva (Radharani and Her eternal associates or internal potency exhibits 60 of the 64 also 93.75% 

3 - Siva-tattva (Lord Siva) exhibits 55 of the 64 or 85.938%

4 - The Jiva-tattvas, (marginal living entities or jiva-souls) exhibits 50 of the 64 which is 78.125%. 

Krsna, as His original infinite Form, has 64 qualities of which 4 of those are unique to only Kṛṣṇa, only partially exhibited by some Visnu-tattva expansions.

Srila Prabhupada - "Kṛṣṇa is the original Supreme Personality of Godhead, and Baladeva (Balarama) is Kṛṣṇa's immediate expansion. Because Kṛṣṇa NEVER leaves Vṛndāvana, all the forms of Kṛṣṇa that appear elsewhere are His expansions." (BG, Ch 10 Text 37)

Kṛṣṇa’s first expansion is Balarama, from Balarama ALL the other Visnu-tattva expansions who each have their own unique name, originate.

When the "original" Krsna wants to enter the material creation to perform His pastimes in the Vrindavana, a facsimile of the spiritual world, it is His Visnu-tattva expansion, who is an expansion of Balarāma, who plays the part of Kṛṣṇa.  

In other words, it is a Visnu-tattva tattva expansion of Balarāma who performs those "Kṛṣṇa pastimes" or lilas.

In other words, because the original infinite Kṛṣṇa NEVER leaves Vṛndāvana, His Visnu-tattva expansion (coming from Balarāma), plays the part of the original Kṛṣṇa in the material creation and includes killing demons there.

When Kṛṣṇa wants to enter the ever youthful perpetual eternal Vaikuntha planets, and the temporary decomposing material creation, He first expands Himself as Balarāma (His older brother in Vṛndāvana Lila) and from Balarama, all Visnu-tattva expansions manifest.

Visnu-tattva is a 4 armed expansion of Balarāma, Krsna's first expansion, it is His Visnu-tattva expansion who plays the part of the two-armed Krsna outside of the spiritual world within the material creation and kills many demons, such killing of demons does not happen in the original Vṛndāvana in the spiritual world, it only happens in the facsimile Vṛndāvana in the material world. 

All Visnu-tattva/Narayana expansion do not have those 4 extra qualities Krsna has always, therefore, Krsna is always the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes and expands Himself into innumerable categories of living entities - from Visnu-tattva, to Visnu-"sakti"-tattva, to Siva-tattva, to jiva-tattva (jiva-souls)

Of all the living entities, the ones who are almost equal to Krsna are called Visnu-tattva (Balarama, Maha-Visnu, Garbhodakashayi Visnu, Paramatma etc) and Visnu-"sakti"-tattva (Radharani and Her eternal unlimited associates)

While other living entities, the marginal living entities (jiva-souls), are "separated individual beings" being independent from Krsna's absolute control due to having the freedom of self-expression and voluntarily being able to provide their own unique thoughtful contributions in their relationship with Krsna. 

Such independent contributions or service by the individual jiva-souls deepens, expands and personalises one's relationship with Krsna. 

This allows individual unique loving expressions, exchanges and reciprocation with Krsna to ALWAYS exist in a "two-way" healthy exchange of voluntary loving feelings. 

Instead of being part of an impersonally controlled loveless dictatorship where the jiva-souls are always told how to think, act and serve under the bogus interpretation of "surrender prabhu." 

Such bogus cold surrender will deny and suppress all personal voluntary independent contributions by the jiva-souls, resulting in the destruction of their unique Personality and character, which are the bases of being the individual contributing PERSON (SELF-EXPRESSION) they are eternally.

This is what it really means to be the individual independent PERSON the jiva-souls are naturally.

The jiva-souls have their own unique independent personality, character and identity separate from Krsna's Personality that allows them to express themselves independently including even rejecting Krsna if they choose.. 

So clearly, the individual jiva-souls each have their own unique ability of independent self expression, allowing them to voluntarily contribute in a unique "two-way" exchange of creative service where the individual jiva-souls thinks for themselves and are never told how and what to think or do.

The jiva-souls therefore, have their own unique "sense of being an independent thinking PERSON," who can express themselves in the way they choose to voluntarily serve Radha and Krsna without being forced to "surrender." or even reject Them if they choose.

In the spiritual world Maya or the material energy, does not exist, so the individual jiva-souls can NEVER be tempted by Maya or material energy on the Vaikuntha planets, or in Krsna's central Abode of Goloka Vrindavana.  

However, what does eternally exist in the spiritual world is free will or v self-expression which is the only cause of fall down from the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.

As explained above, Lord Siva (Siva-tattva), is neither Visnu-tattva or jiva-tattva (jiva-soul) but is in a league of his own with his followers, he is very merciful to the degraded extremely fallen jiva-souls who have become ghostly persons (frustratingly existing without a gross material bodily vessel)

All the different categories of living beings are Krsna's expansions, each having a portion of His 64 qualities however, only Kṛṣṇa has all 64 qualities in full all the time all the time.

As a reminder-

Visnu-tattva and Visnu-"sakti"-tattva expansions have 60 of Krsna's 64 qualities which is 93.75%

Siva-tattva expansion has 55 of Krsna's 64 qualities which is 85.938%.

Jiva-tattvas (jiva-souls) expansions have 50 of Krsna's 64 qualities which is 78.125%.

Being all-powerful and the cause of all causes, Krsna can expand Himself into unlimited Forms with the same power and characteristics He possesses, without diminishing Himself in anyway.

So to be clear, Krsna as His original eternal childhood infinite Form, NEVER leaves Goloka Vṛndāvana, therefore it is His Visnu-tattva expansions who enters the material world and play the role of the original Kṛṣṇa in the earthly Vṛndāvana dham facsimile.<^>
















Friday, February 23, 2024

Goloka-Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets (the Kingdom of God) are the original infinite home of the marginal living entities (jiva-souls)

In the spiritual world there is NO repeated birth and death of material bodily vessels, or decay and impermanence because matter or material energy (Maya) does NOT exist their, every individual jiva-soul lives AS their eternal "spiritual bodily form" (anti-matter). 

In other words, the individual jiva-souls do NOT occupy a material body in the spiritual world that is always in a constant state of decay, decline and always constantly in need of maintenance and repair.

The fact is, the individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) [eternal PERSONS] were NEVER created and will NEVER cease to be, they have ALWAYS existed as beginningless and endless as Bhagavad-Gita As It Is tells us-

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG, Ch 2 text 12, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O son of Kuntī, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed." (BG, Ch 2 text 14, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O best among men [Arjuna], the person who is not disturbed by happiness and distress and is steady in both is certainly eligible for liberation." (BG, Ch 2 text 15, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “The material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is sure to come to an end; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata." (BG, Ch 2 text 18, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG Ch 2 text 20 "corrected" 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the material body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "If, however, you think that the soul [or the symptoms of life] is always born and dies forever, you still have no reason to lament, O mighty armed." (BG, Ch 2 text 26, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament."  (BG, Ch 2 text 27, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "All created beings are unmanifest in their beginning, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?" (BG, Ch 2 text 28, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30, 1983 edition)

All individual jīva-souls are ETERNAL persons therefore there are no new jiva-souls being created because they have ALWAYS existed meaning they are beginningless and endless.

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 9th July 1970)

The individual jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS who can never be destroyed, terminated, divided into pieces or extinguished because they are indestructible. 

Many scholars, historians and religionists have still not properly understood the eternal infinite position of the marginal living entities (jiva-souls), as being Krsna's eternal servant in their ORIGINAL infinite position and home in Goloka Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets.

Of course, taking birth in the temporary mundane material creation is achieved by first choosing to leave one's real perpetual home in the spiritual world.

This means the individual jiva-souls (jiva-tattva) NEVER originated from an "inactive" clear sheet of "dormant" consciousness either, meaning they NEVER originated from an impersonal inactive origin in the Brahman or Brahmajyoti effulgence because they have ALWAYS existed.

As explained above, the individual jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS who can never be destroyed, terminated, cut into pieces or extinguished because they are indestructible. 

This clearly means the individual jiva-souls certainly did NOT originate from the impersonal brahmajyoti.  

Srila Prabhupāda - "Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)

Goloka-Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets (The Kingdom of God) are the original infinite home of the marginal living entities (jiva-souls).×^×.