Sunday, February 18, 2024

The marginal potency or energy, is a collective of individual eternal living entities (jiva-souls), who each have an independent identity, personality and bodily form, who have ALWAYS existed without beginning or end.

Therefore, the individual jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS who can never be destroyed, terminated, divided into pieces or extinguished because they are indestructible as Bhagavad Gita As It Is explains.

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG, Ch 2 text 12, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O son of Kuntī, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed." (BG, Ch 2 text 14, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O best among men [Arjuna], the person who is not disturbed by happiness and distress and is steady in both is certainly eligible for liberation." (BG, Ch 2 text 15, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by studying the nature of both." (BG, Ch 2 text 16, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “That which pervades the entire body you should know to be indestructible. No one is able to destroy that imperishable soul." (BG, Ch 2 text 17, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “The material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is sure to come to an end; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata." (BG, Ch 2 text 18, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Neither he who thinks the living entity the slayer nor he who thinks it slain is in knowledge, for the self slays not nor is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 19, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG Ch 2 text 20 "corrected" 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, present everywhere, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same." (BG, Ch 2 text 24, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable and immutable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the material body." (BG, Ch 2 text 25, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "If, however, you think that the soul [or the symptoms of life] is always born and dies forever, you still have no reason to lament, O mighty armed." (BG, Ch 2 text 26, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "One who has taken his birth is sure to die, and after death one is sure to take birth again. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament."  (BG, Ch 2 text 27, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "All created beings are unmanifest in their beginning, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?" (BG, Ch 2 text 28, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "Some look on the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all." (BG, Ch 2 text 29, 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the material body can never be slain. Therefore, you need not grieve for any living being." (BG, Ch 2 text 30, 1983 edition)

All individual jīva-souls are ETERNAL persons therefore there are no new jiva-souls being created because they have ALWAYS existed meaning they are beginningless and endless.

Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 9th July 1970)

The individual jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS who can never be destroyed, terminated, divided into pieces or extinguished because they are indestructible. 

Srila Prabhupada explains on the "Happening record Album" recorded in New York City December 1966, that we are all originally and infinitely Krsna conscious living entities. 

The individual jiva-souls are NOT originally from an impersonal origin, the jiva-souls have no origin or beginning point because they have ALWAYS existed as explained above.

Also, the marginal potency, energy or plane, is NOT a place where the individual jiva-soul originated from from. 

The "marginal" energy above is a "collective" of "individual jiva-souls" called the "marginal living entities" who are in their own  category of living entities different from the other categories of living entites called 

Visnu-tattva, (direct expansions of Krsna)  

Visnu-"sakti"-tattva (Krsna's internal energy represented by Srimati Radharani.  

Siva-tattva is Lord Siva who is in a mysterious league of his own and Krsna’s greatest devotee.

The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) in the spiritual world, can always reject Krsna if they choose by making their "desires" self centred instead of Kṛṣṇa centred. 

Such self centred desires forces the jiva-souls out of the spiritual world and places them in the material world without even knowing what the material world is.

The jiva-souls ALWAYS have desires and choice of what they want to do voluntarily serving Krsna, but now those same desires are not for Krsna, they are now celf centred. 

So, choosing to be separate from Krsna means the fallen jiva-souls put themselves in the center, instead of Krsna.

The jiva-soul's desires ALWAYS remain, but now the "direction" of those desires are different, they are no longer Krsna centred, they are self centred.  

For an eternity in the spiritual world the jiva-soul's desires have always had Krsna in the centre. The jiva-souls have chosen to do this because they eternally have their free will.

However, when a jiva-souls direct  their "desires" to be self centred instead of Krsna centred, then their separation from Kṛṣṇa begins.

In the spiritual world Kṛṣṇa is all the jiva-souls know, they have no knowledge there is a material world or impersonal brahmajyoti while in the spiritual world with Krsna in the centre within His eternal pastimes.

The fact is, the choice by the jiva-souls to leave Krsna begins on the Vaikuntha planets, or in Goloka Vrindavana due to "free will."

Free will "eternally" exists on both the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana and allows the jiva-souls to voluntarily express themselves as the unique individual independent living entity they always are who can choose to serve Krsna or reject Him. 

Rejecting Krsna the individual jiva-soul's desires (their choices) are now centred around themselves to experience "life" instead of Krsna.  

The jiva-souls can do as they please otherwise free will has no meaning.  

After all the jīva-souls choose to leave the spiritual planets because they want to imitate Krsna and be in His place.

The spiritual world is always in the "eternal presence" of Krsna and NEVER governed by the temporary material creations "past, present and future" that only exists in the decaying material creation.

Only in the spiritual world's of the Vaikuṇṭha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, does the full potential of the individual jiva-soul's exist, fully realized and expressed there. 

Therefore, it is a nonsense philosophy to say that we didn’t come from Krsna's abode of Goloka-Vrindavana, which is the jiva-souls real eternal infinite home where they have always existed without any beginning point. 

Krsna states twice in the Srimad Bhagavatam that we chose to leave Him in the spiritual world. 

In Canto 4 Chapter 28 text 53 and 55 Krsna directly asks the jiva-soul, 

"Do you remember Me" (How can you remember what you never knew?)

Krsna directly says 'hitvā māṁ', You rejected me. He says it clearly in Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 4 Chapter 28 text 55, sa tvaṁ vihāya māṁ bandho. 

"You are the one who rejected Me, O friend!" sa tvaṁ vihāya māṁ bandho. 

Yes, so we should now be determined to return back home back to Godhead, to again be with Krsna and NEVER again come to the temporary decaying material world." <**>










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