Also, how do the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) fall from the spiritual world (the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana) to the material world?
The individual jiva-souĺs (marginal living entities) are endowed with free will, which means they can even reject Krsna if they choose, otherwise free will has no meaning.
Free will only has meaning when the jiva-souls can express themselves in a "two-way" relationship that allows independent self expression.
In other words, loving reciprocation is ONLY possible on a "two-way" street between two, with each contributing to the relationship's expansion of nectarine mellows.
As said above, this means the individual jiva-souls can reject Krsna if they choose, which only proves that "free will" does truly exist.
Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will, unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing is bad but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing, he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison, everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will." (Talk on Rene Descartes philosophy with Hayagriva dasa 1976)
Srila Prabhupada - "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you can never fall down, that is not independence, that is force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)
Having "free will" is the eternal constitutional make up of every "marginal living entity," (jiva-soul) and is the foundation for all jiva-soul's relationship with Krsna.
The jiva-souls on the Vaikuntha planets and on Goloka Vrindavana, eternally have their individual independence which means always being able to express their "free will" in the spiritual world that is part and parcel of their unique individual marginal identity as a voluntary contributing jiva-soul.
This "freedom" of self expression or fee will, allows the jiva-souls to make their own unique personal offerings with voluntary contributions to their loving relationship and service to Lord Visnu or Sri Krsna, where each individual jiva-soul can offer or serve the Lord in their own unique personal way. This is real freedom.
In this way, each individual jiva-soul has their own special (personal) association and relationship with Krsna or Visnu that is unique to them, that no other jiva-soul has.
Loving exchanges are based on a "two-way" relationship between Krsna and the individual jiva-souls however, in the temporary material creation, it is different because those who have chosen to enter the material creation as an independent, previously choose to leave a Vaikuntha planet or Goloka-Vrindavan by rejecting Visnu or Krsna.
So, why does Krsna allow the jiva-souls to have their independent freedom and even choose to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan?
Disciple - "In the Srimad Bhagavatam it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come here, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?”
Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence, that is force, in Bengali it is said, "If you catch one girl or boy and demand you love me, you love me, you love me. is it love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver, you love me, otherwise I shall kill you! That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C)
Having "free will" gives the individual jiva-souls the freedom to express themselves as independent person. This also means the jiva-souls take fully responsible for all their choices, actions and deeds.
Rejecting the Vaikuntha planets and Krsna's central planet of Goloka Vrindavana and enter the material creation, was a mistake by those jiva-souls because the material creation is not the real home of the individual jiva-souls.
It is unnatural for the individual jiva-souls to be covered by a temporary material bodily vessel or container that is in a constant state of decomposition, is obtained from Maha-Visnu when the jiva-souls chose to enter leave the spiritual world and enter the temporary material world.
For loving service (voluntary selfless personal contributions) to truly exist, each jiva-soul must have the "freedom" (free will) to voluntarily make their own choices, even if that means leaving Krsna!
Otherwise, there can be no question of of freedom (free will to voluntarily participate in loving exchanges or service of their choice.
This attribute of individual identity, independent personality and character, means the individual jiva-souls can always express themselves as an independent PERSON under the heading of free will. These attributes are part of the individual jiva-soul's marginal constitution, as separate expansions who are part and parcel of the Krsna.
Krsna allows this freedom that all jiva-souls have because without free will, loving exchanges and personal contributions can NEVER exist.
Srila Prabhupada - "You have got little independence therefore you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God you have got independence, proportionately, therefore if he likes he can return. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We can misuse that." (Conversation, Mayapur, Feb 19, 1976)
As said above, having "free will" is the constitutional make up of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) that is always part and parcel of their eternal character and personality in the spiritual worlds. This means the jiva-souls can even choose to leave the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana if they want.
Free will always allows this and if it didn't then there is no question of loving exchanges.
This is why it is foolish that big, big sannyasis and gurus claim once entering the spiritual world the jiva-souls can never leave or fall down again to the material world which is a nonsense comment.
To stay in the spiritual world, or enter the material world are both voluntary, this means it is up to the individual jiva-souls to choose where they live, the spiritual world or the material world.
Although, the "original infinite home" of the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is the spiritual world's of the Vaikuṇṭha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.
The choice to stay or remain in the spiritual world is also up to each individual jiva-soul therefore voluntary, and is NOT just the decision of just Krsna or His pure devotees because love is a two-way reciprocation.
As already explained, real love or service is a "two-way street" and NOT a one-sided dictatorship.
This is why all those who claim the jiva-souls will never again fall down from the spiritual world once there, are sentimental fools.
No, they CAN fall down again and again and again if they choose to do so, regardless of Krsna promise they will never again fall down. This is because it is also their choice to accept or reject Krsna's promise too.
In other words if the jiva-soul rejects Krsna then they will certainly reject His promises too, but sentimental fools do not undertand this.
And as said above, such choices or fall downs have nothing to do with Maya (material energy) because Maya does not exist on the Vaikuntha planets or on Goloka Vrindavana. It is simply the misuse of free will that is the cause of fall down.
The choice to leave the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana is possible because Krsna allows a "two-way" relationship, this means one can accept or reject Krsna if they choose to do so.
Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."
Disciple - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."
Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is free will, he misuses his free will. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is also the possibility to misuse of free will, then there is no question of free will." (Discussions with Srila Prabhupada on Rene Descartes philosophy)
Syamasundara dasa - "But can we predict returning back home back to Godhead will be permanent? Can we predict that? Just like many prisoners leave the prison, however some do come back?"
Srila Prabhupada - "No, there is no permanent effect because we have got little independence. There is nothing permanent because you can misuse your independence at any time."
Syamasundara dasa - "And some come back?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, therwise there is no meaning of independence. Independence means you can do this, you can do that. "All right. Whatever you like."
Syamasundara dasa - "Then he is so many times falling down, again and again, so will he eventually permanently come back?" (Discussions with Syamasundara on Henri Bergson philosophy)
All material bodies in the material creation are provided to the jiva-souls, who reject Krsna and Visnu, by Maha-Visnu.
Srila Prabhupada - ''As soon as we try, Oh, this material world is very nice, Yes, Kṛṣṇa says, yes, you can go, otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will. And Kṛṣṇa is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you enjoy like this." It is free will." (Morning Walk Cheviot Hills May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)
Srila Prabhupada - "He has got independence therefore there is always the possibility he can misuse his independence, he can fall down. That's why when a man is released from the prison house, that does not mean permanently because he can come back again, the general law is not to come back, but if he likes, he can come back, otherwise what is the meaning of independence? Just like one becomes free from the prison house, naturally he should not go there again." (Conversation, Mayapur, Feb 19, 1976)
Srila Prabhupada - "Love only exists when there is a relationship between "two persons," then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (quote 1966 - 1974, Vaniquotes)
Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is not love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, NY City, Nov 23, 1966)
Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be done or love cannot be executed only one, there must be another one, there must be two. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973).
The Sun-disc and the sun-rays can't exist separately from each other, similarly Krsna cannot exist separately from His living entities (parts and parcels) and the living entities can't exist without Krsna.
Each jiva-soul (marginal living entity) is a one of a kind independent individual PERSON, with their own unique personality and character different from other personalities including Kṛṣṇas.
No two individual jiva-souls are the same, and no jiva-souls can ever become God (Krsna or Visnu) or Siva (in a league of his own) but they can become a Lord Brahmā if they choose.
Loving contributing devotional service to Krsna is always based on a "two-way" voluntary exchange of personal feelings manifesting as loving acts of reciprocation between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees, who voluntarily contribute their own unique expressions (offerings) of devotional service to Him as the real act of surrendering to Krsna's will that does not deny the "free will" of each jiva-soul.
On the other hand, actions expressed in a "one-way" domineering forceful mood from a "so called God" in His Kingdom that does not allow personal voluntary contributions from the individual jiva-souls in a "two-way" exchange of feelings, is dangerous impersonalism.
Personalism means a "two-way" relationship that includes voluntary loving exchange of feelings that expands, enriches and multiplies loving affection, sentiment and exchanges between the jiva-souls and Krsna.
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!"(Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is not love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation."
Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed by only one, personally. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love."
Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3)
Disciple - "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, human form, God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."
Disciple - "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"
Srila Prabhupada - "[describing material form first]: Yes, they are more covered, just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."
Disciple - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary, some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want that, to be a flower, I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4)
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