The fall of the Vedic empire was "from within" from the corrupt lazy weakened selfish Brahmin class due to the influence of Kali-yuga. This also allowed in the increased mundane worship of demigods, and the violent invasion of Islam that killed millions and force coverted millions of Indians to Islam leading to the bogus breakaway states of Pakistan and now Bangladesh. Also the knowledge from the Ayuravedic teachings of Dhanvantari were mostly lost just after Kali-yuga began 5000 years ago.

1920 records at Jagannath Puri Temple reveal the English administration invited Ayurveda Brahmins to perform rituals to get rid of the Spanish Influenza pandemic spreading India in 1918, 102 years sgo 4.

Keep in mind in 1928/20 India's population, that included Pakistan and Bangladesh (East Pakistan) that both never existed until 1947, was just 280 million.

Out of this population, over 20 million died from the Spanish Influenza pandemic virus.

They chanted mantras, burned Cow dung, spread around Ganges water, putting Tulsi leaf on the sick.

Sadly these big pandal programs only spread the virus faster due to big crowds.

It was also revealed many children died of suffocation due burning bonfires of Cow dung that proved to be also useless.

Still 20 million Indians died.

Deaths only started coming down when these religious gatherings were banned and people told to stay in their homes.

In 2020, 100 years later, Prime Minister Modi learned from this and immediately banned religious gatherings and ordered lock down to fight COVID-19.

This act saved millions of Indian lives from COVID-19

In 1918/20 at the request of the English administration, big Ayurveda Brahmins arranged massive kirtans, burnt cow dung, put Tulsi leaf on the sick, spread around Ganges water and chanted many mantras to stop the Spanish Influenza pandemic.

The fact is, according to records at Jagannath Puri Temple, it only made the virus worse because of these big gatherings and eventually over 20 million Indians died.

This is because religious gathering bring hundreds of thousands of people together that only spread the Influenza virus faster.

In fact, many young children also died from breathing difficulties caused by the massive cow dung fires and pollution.

These religious gatherings and Vedic rituals like burning Cow dung, had no effect on stopping the virus regardless of what Vedic text claim, the Cow dung smoke only in fact killed many babies and the elderly.

We have to understand that due to Kali-yuga, the Vedas and their Brahmin teachers who follow them, obviously have lost faith and their mystical potency due to the onslaught of Kali-yuga that has weakened the priestly (Brahmin) class.

And that is why all attempts to help end the Spanish Flu pandemic in 1918/1920 with Vedic mantras.

The violent invasion of the Indian Subcontinent by primitive tribes, converted to Islam from Saudi Arabia and Iran in the 9th Century AD,
killed over 100 million followers of the  Vedas over 1000 years, and converted another 1 billion to Islam.

This only happened because of the corruption and moral weakness from within, from the corrupt Brahmin class that degraded the other three classes,

Kshatriyas,
Vaishyas,
Sudras,

And created a bogus class called Dalits or Harijans (untouchables)

In other words, the fall of the Vedic empire was "from within" from the corrupt weakened selfish Brahmin class.

This also allowed in the increased mundane worship of demigods and the violent invasion of Islam to make in roads.

And the knowledge from the Ayuravedic sastra of Dhanvantari were almost lost just after Kali-yuga began 5000 years ago.

Also lost was also the mystical potency manifested from fire-yugnas and burning sacred cow dung while chanting various powerful mantras.

All become useless long ago, from the time of Buddha 2,500 years ago.

So how was the Spanish influenza defeated in 1920?

Only when the British authorities told everyone to isolate themselves and stay at home, did death numbers drop in India.

That is why Modi banned religious gatherings in March 2020 during COVAD-19 pandemic because they learn from the Spanish Influenza pandemic 100 years before.

And personally because of diabetes, I take the Flu vaccine every year (for 35 years now) and it does protect the biological body and has no side effects with me.

At nearly 70, we must be careful.

Remember 85% of COVID-19 deaths are over 65 year olds.

In 2020 the population on the Indian Subcontinent -

1 -India is 1 billion 480 million
2 - Pakistan is 230 million
3 - Bangladesh 176 million

The following is what future generations of devotees will have to deal with that the present generation in 2020 cannot even imagine WILL be possible.

Other dangerous features of impersonalism in this material World.

Never underestimate the many branches of "Impersonalism" a greatly underestimated reality in the material creation.

Impersonalism has many features we have not yet fully understood in our generation.

In the future, because of advanced technology and artificial intelligence, future generations will see entire cities exist with "material bodies" but none of those "vessels" will have a jiva soul!

Such a reality of materialism (Androids) devoid of the soul is laughed at by the less intelligent, such fools also said heart transplants are not possible.

Yes, even the biological material vessel can be grown (not created as that is not possible) in a laboratory and have no "dominant" jiva soul.

How is this possible?

Simple with the right technology, a machine is built that reacts to the actions of others, needing no person (soul) controlling them.

Such programs already exist on car assembly lines and security in many buildings and spell check devices.

This is not always a bad thing, I talk to my computer every day called "Google Hub"

She controls everything in my house from lights, air conditioning, TV, Blue ray recorder and mobile phone

And she knows everything too even all of Prabhupada's Books word for word.

Hate these ignorant anti-vaccination killers with all their crazy nonsense talk. Between 1900 and 1955, 180 million died from viruses we now have vaccines for. Why are vaccinations very important and now compulsory by law in many Countries? Because they save millions of lives!

Srila Prabhupada - "If there is an epidemic disease the medical man will administer a vaccination. In Los Angeles I received a vaccination. What was that disease—the flu?"

Devotee - "The Hong Kong flu".

Srila Prabhupäda - "The Hong Kong flu. Yes. Everyone was getting the vaccination, and I got it also. And therefore I was not attacked by the disease". (New Vrindaban, West Virginia, in 1968)

Srila Prabhupada  - "So, this whole world is the Hong Kong flu. [Laughter.] Mäyä is ready to attack. Always. Therefore, we have to take this vaccination of chanting Hare Krsna too". (New Vrindaban, West Virginia, in 1968)

History records of Prabhupada's memory of the "Plague epidemic" in Calcutta in 1898 a little differently.

I researched this in History Books and yes that kirtan Prabhupada describes was among devotee friends of Prabhupada's family because elsewhere in Calcutta, the Plague epidemic continued on and killed thousands.

The kirtans Prabhupada talked about certainly never stopped it everywhere in Calcutta according to history books but DID stop it in the house Prabhupada was in and some other devotees houses too.

This is also because of their strong faith in the Lord that was not every where due not following Vedic teachings.

Yes Bengal had many Muslims and Christians too but not all of them joined in, that part is obvious.

Because of Kali-yuga such devotional potent pure kirtans by genuine devotees are very rare.

Sadly the teachings of Dhanvantari (Ayuravedic medicine) is almost lost due to Kali-yuga and Vedic Brahmins today have almost no mystical potency like Brahmins in Dvarpara-yuga.

Keep in mind Prabhupada was only 2 years old in 1898.

Also 1920 records at Jagannath Puri Temple reveal the English administration invited Ayuravedic Brahmins to perform rituals to get rid of the Spanish Influenza pandemic.

They chanted mantras, burned Cow dung, spread around Ganges water, putting Tulsi leaf on the sick.

Sadly these big pandal programs only spread the virus faster due to big crowds.

It was also revealed many children died of suffocation due burning bonfires of Cow dung that proved to be also useless.

Still 20 million Indians died.

Deaths only started coming down when these religious gatherings were banned and people told to stay in their homes.

In 2020, 100 years later, Prime Minister Modi learned from this and immediately banned religious gatherings and ordered lock down to fight COVID-19.

This act saved millions of Indian lives from COVID-19

In 1918/20 at the request of the English administration, big Ayuravedic Brahmins arranged massive kirtans, burnt cow dung, put Tulsi leaf on the sick, spread around Ganges water and chanted many mantras to stop the Spanish Influenza pandemic.

The fact is according to records at Jagannath Puri Temple, it only made the virus worse because of these big gatherings and eventually over 20 million Indians died.

This is because religious gathering bring hundreds of thousand together that only spread the Influenza virus faster.

In fact many young children also died from breathing difficulties caused by the massive cow dung fires and the pollution they caused that had no effect on stopping the virus regardless of what Vedic text claim and only in fact killed many babies and the elderly.

The Vedas and Brahmin teachers who follow them, obviously have lost their mystical potency due to the onslaught of Kali-yuga that has weakened the priestly (Brahmin) class.

Even the violent invasion of India on the Indian Subcontinent by primitive tribes converted to Islam from Saudi Arabia and Iran in the 9th Century AD that killed 100 million followers of Vedanta over 1000 years, and converted another billion to Islam only happened because of the corruption and moral weakness from within, from the corrupt Brahmin class that degraded the other three classes,

Kshatriyas,
Vaishyas,
Sudras,

And created a bogus class called Dalits or Harijans (untouchables)

In other words the fall of the Vedic empire was "from within" from the corrupt lazy weakened selfish Brahmin class.

This also allowed in the increased mundane worship of demigods.

The teachings from the Ayuravedic teachings of Dhanvantari were almost just after Kali-yuga began 5000 years ago.

Also lost was the mystical potency manifested from fire yugnas burning sacred cow dung from chanting different powerful mantras.

All become useless from the time of Buddha 2,500 years ago.

Only when the British authorities told everyone to isolate themselves and stay at home, did death numbers drop in India.

That is why Modi banned religious gatherings in March 2020 during COVAD-19 pandemic because they learn from the Spanish Influenza pandemic 100 years before.

Because of diabetes I take the Flu vaccine every year (for 35 years now) and it does protect the biological body and has no side effects with me.

At nearly 70, we must be careful. Remember 85% of COVID-19 deaths are over 65 year olds

Maintaining Human life is most important

Back in the 70s a devotee in Melbourne Australia had type 1 diabetes and asked Prabhupada if he should continue taking the insulin injection.

It was made from dead pig's livers back then.

Prabhupada told him - "yes, keep taking it, it is keeping you alive"

Today insulin is synthesised in a laboratory and no longer comes from dead animals.

A lesson of how history repeats itself.

The link between 5G phones today and the Edison light bulbs and electric wires from 130 years ago.

This nonsense fear against the new 5G technology today has happened before as revealed in the old 1900s newspaper cartoon below.

In 1889, superstitious ignorant fools also claimed this new technology of electric wires and Edison light bulbs going into many homes, will warp your brains and make you insane.

Sadly, the superstition of that time called this new technology of electric lights the work of the devil.

It seems all new technology brings fear to the uneducated, naive and mundane religious nuts.

I have had 5G technology for my phone and computers now for 18 months and it is very, very fast and helps increase our 8 preaching sites spreading Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's Sankirtan Movement.

5G technology can instantly put us anywhere on the globe and allow us to visit any Temple in real time without any lapse you get with the old 4G.

Through virtual reality, a devotee can enter any Temple or home and give class instantaneously with 5G technology.

No devotees in history have been able to do this except rare yogis and mystics of old who projected their consciousness to eight different places simultaneously.

This 5G technology allows one to be even in more far reaching places than these materialistic mystic yogis of old could ever achieve!

Prabhupada once said the yogis achieve their powers by controlling the mind while the modern scientist go the long away around and control the elements and achieve almost the same goal by manipulating material nature.

However, it seems very few devotees see this great benefit and gift to spread Krishna consciousness around the world instantaneously.

ISKCON is only in it's early pioneering years and sadly many are foolishly anti-vaccine, anti-5G and believe in flat earthers Bhu-Mandala nonsense.

Therefore, I have to say something here, there is so much nonsense talk going on, on Youtube conspiracy sites claiming the Corona virus (COVID-19) is caused by 5G radio waves, LOL

These fools also claim the 1918-1920 Spanish Influenza pandemic was caused by Towers broadcasting Radio Stations.

However, this is a lie!

History reveals there were no Radio Towers around during World War I when the great Influenza Spanish flu existed between 1918 and 1920.

Radio Stations in Society never existed until 1921, they were all established in the early 1920s and never existed in India until 1928 when the first one went on air.

Remember in 1920 over 20 million people died from the Spanish Flu pandemic in India alone and 80 million more around the world.

No Radio Towers exist at this time before 1921, nor in the 1870s Cholera pandemic caused by polluted Ganges water killed 23 million in just India, mostly in Bengal.

And the Small Pox pandemic in the 18th (the 1700s) and 19th Century (the 1800s) that killed 300 million people world wide.

So stop being conned in by these crazies with their silly Fake or just stupid PhDs ranting on Youtube.

As said, the fear of new technology always brings out the crazies, especially in religions who try to forcefully silence them like the Catholic Church did in the 16th and 17th Century Killing many scholars.

As the cartoon at bottom reveals, superstitious fools back in 1889 also said electricity will kill everyone who gets it, and the light emanating from new Edison light bulbs will make you blind and stunt your children's growth.

Like now with 5G, back then it was also based on lies, ignorance, superstition, fear and crazy religious sectarian nonsense.

Like back in 1889 where none of the anti-electricity demonstrations could ever win, 5G today will also win and eventually go EVERYWHERE on the planet like electricity and light bulbs have.

Already all my Facebook posts are carried by 5G and are so much faster with our 8 science and Sankirtan pages we have.

All my friends, both devotees and none devotees have 5G too, no one got COVID-19 LOL as ignorant fools believe.

Read the example again, most new technologies always brings out fear, superstition and crazies out of the woodwork.

In December 1903 the Wright brothers first flew a machine in the sky, on the front cover of the Catholic newspaper the next day, the heading was -

"Man trying to fly is the work of the devil, if man was meant to fly, God would of gave him wings, no good will come out of this and God will not let this foolish attempt last"

Ha ha ha!! Around the World in 2019, 10 million people flew ever month!

Trying to stop 5G is like the Catholic Church trying to stop people flying on Planes in 1903.

I also notice on Youtube that many of those who are against 5G, are also anti-vaccination supporters, silly chem trail believers and stupid flat Earthers.

Governments today are squashing these nonsense anti-5G fools just like they did 130 years ago when they squashed demonstrations against electricity wires and the light bulb.

The following comment is about present day Hare Krishna beliefs of devotees and the ISKCON founder Srila Prabhupada.

I do not fully agree with many devotees regarding the Moon landings being a hoax however, I do understand their sentiment and their beliefs are out of respect and love for Srila Prabhupada.

However, love should never be blind or based on sentimentality because such immaturity can deny the truth.

For example some devotees including leading sannyasis believe the International Space Station and communication Satellites are a hoax made up by NASA.

However, the fact is, through my personal home telescope I can see the International Space Station and many communication satellites as well very clearly orbiting our globe.

Therefore it is absurd that some immature devotees today still say man cannot enter outer space, claiming it is all a hoax and the international Space Station does not exist in space.

They also foolishly claim man's space crafts have never been to Mars and recently Pluto, these are foolish beliefs.

They say we cannot see what is going on because we have faulty senses?

Having faulty material senses does NOT mean you never rely on them in a basic way, like crossing the road or knowing if water is too hot or too cold.

And knowing the higher you go, the air DOES get thinner until there is no breathable air at all when you reach outer space.

There are many interpretations of what Bhagavatam means when said air does exist in outer space and holds up the planets.

This kind of air may refer to solar winds, but one thing is 100% certain, there is no breathable air in outer space.

In fact there is very little air with oxygen even on the top of Mt Everest (29,000 feet)

And when Prabhupada said they can never go to the Moon, he really meant the subtle heavenly realm of Chandraloka that is invisible to our material reality and gross material body.

This subtle heavenly realm of Chandraloka exists on the Moon but we cannot see it, nor are qualified to see or visit this heavenly realm in these gross human bodily forms and the gross machines we build.

Only with the right subtle material body and qualified piety, can one enter Chandraloka, a higher heavenly dimensional reality existing on the Moon.

However, we CAN see the "gross Moon" and without any doubt the astronauts DID go to that gross Moon from 1969 to 1972.

Many devotees are wrong by denying this fact because they misunderstand this important point, even Prabhupada never fully clearly explained this fact.

And today space crafts are still going to the Moon from many nations including India, China, Japan, European Union, Russia and Israel taking 10s of thousands of high quality photos, some showing the original Apollo landing sites from 1969 to 1972.

It is therefore silly to keep deny this fact that man DID go to the Moon (but only the gross moon).

In 2020 it is nonsense to think otherwise based on 45 year old conversations with Prabhupada at a time when the devotees and Prabhupada knew very little about the Apollo missions.

Back in the 1970s very few fully understood the Moon landings, it was all so new.

In fact it was so new even very few in society understood or could comprehend that man went to the Moon (the gross Moon we see) reaching there in 3 days in a straight line from our Earth globe.

But Prabhupada says in Bhagavatam it is not possible for NASA to reach the Moon in 3 days.

If Prabhupada had access to the Surya Siddhanta when he was here translating the 5th and 8th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam, he would of also understood the the Moon is NOT further away from Earth than the sun in a straight line from Earth globe to the Moon and IS possible to reach in 3 days.

The Surya Siddhanta clearly reveals the Moon is 258,000 miles from Earth which is close to the REAL distance of 238,000 miles as Sadaputa prabhu also reveals in his books.

In 1969 I was at the Radio telescope in Parks Australia and we measured the distance then because the Apollo Astronauts left beckons on the Moon, there was no silly conspiracy or nonsense hoax!

Devotees who keep pushing this Moon hoax nonsense are sentimentalist fools.

I asked Prabhupada in 1972 about the Moon and the way he explained it to me was that EVEN if they did go to the Moon, they could never enter the heavenly realm of Chandraloka.

I always believed they went to the Moon because of my experience at the Parks Radio telescope in 1969, as explained you cannot fully deny the use of material senses, if you doubted them, you would never choose to walk across a road or judge if the shower is too hot or cold.

You cannot use this stupid excuse we do not know if man reached outer space because our so called senses because they are faulty LOL.

Sadly sentimental devotees today do this all the time when challenged about the Moon landings. When proper logic is given they foolishly claim "our material senses are faulty and we cannot see what is really going on!

What a lot of silly nonsense!

I fully depend on my material senses when I walk across the road or stand near a hot fire.

Anyway back then in the 1970s with Prabhupada, we were so absorbed in massive Book distribution, the Moon thing was never really a big deal, we never really cared, we were just young immature men in our early 20s happy to be chanting Hare Krishna.

And Prabhupada also had doubts about whether or not they went to the Moon we see, often he asked devotees to find out regardless of what he said in discussions with devotees.

He had his opinions on some subjects like Cosmology claiming all Moon rocks came from the Arizona desert however, that is all they were, just his opinions and this Arizona comment is simply not true, those Moon rocks DID come from the Moon.

In 1976 Prabhupada asked Tamal Krishna Maharaj to go to Southern India and find a Vedic Brahmin who is knowledgeable in Vedic Cosmology because Prabhupada said he did not know EVERYTHING about Vedic Cosmology.

Only one was found but he knew nothing and was useless. That conversation is on our decoding Vedic Cosmology site.

Prabhupada then told Sadaputa Dasa to research this area and establish the Bhaktivedanta Institute.

A PAINTING BELOW Shows the anti-electricity and light bulb movement from 1889 trying to ban light bulbs and electricity.

Hate these ignorant anti-vaccination killers with all their crazy nonsense talk, many friends are doctors and nurses, they are amazed how ignorant some Krishna devotees are.

Here vaccinations are compulsory if your child goes to a school.

Between 1900 and 1955, 180 million died from viruses we now have vaccines for. I have had the flu vaccine now for 35 years, at 70 years old it does protect the material body.

I asked Prabhupada about this in February 1973 when he had an infected finger that would not heal, he told us to bring Him a doctor who could give him penicillin and we did this, his finger healed in a day.

He told us we must protect ourselves from illness to preach, and if necessary take the vaccine, especially Cholera and Small Pox he said as there was a break out of both Cholera and Small Pox in Calcutta in the early 70s killing 20,000 Indians.

He said he was given the Hong Kong influenza vaccine in 1968 saying it did protect him (found in vaniquotes)

Our Gurukula at Murwillumbah gets a large funding from the Government and if devotees keep pushing this anti-vaccination nonsense, all funding will be lost and the school closed down.

Why are vaccinations important and now compulsory?

Most vaccinations cannot be given to children under 12 months.

So recently in Queensland at a Kindergarten, 4 children under 12 months old died from Measles.

This happen because a 4 year old went to the Kindergarten and her parents lied about her vaccines and she had Measles.

They were from a anti-vaccination group.

Their neglect killed four innocent children.

Since then the Government have strict rules and must provide proof of vaccinations.

Sadly an Indian doctor was giving exemptions but all were bogus, there was nothing wrong with any of the Gurukula school children seeking exemption.

The doctor was eventually set up with a child and parents who taped their visit with him.

He was then charged with fraud, spent 8 days in jail before in court loosing his doctors licence and then being deported back to India.

Vaccines save lives and it is illegal here to send a child to a school without being vaccinated and this is how it should be.

Frankly all anti-vaccination people should be jailed because they are dangerous....

The REAL sensible truth about the very fast 5G technology.

These nonsense anti-5G fools today do not see that the same thing happened in 1889 (130 years ago) when electricity first went into housing in New York to power electric lights.

The fear of new technology always brings out the crazies.

Superstitious fools back in 1889 also said electricity will kill everyone who gets it, and the light emanating from new Edison light bulbs will make you blind and stunt your children's growth.

Like now with 5G, back then it was also based on lies, ignorance, superstition, fear and crazy religious nonsense.

I have had 5G for nearly 18 months, it is fantastic, fast and can reach anywhere very quickly.

Like back in 1889, none of these stupid demonstrations today will ever win, just like electricity, it eventually went EVERYWHERE.

And so will 5G thankfully.

Already all my Facebook posts are carried by 5G and are so much faster with the 8 science and Sankirtan pages we have.

All my friends, both devotees and none devotees have 5G too, no one got COVID-19 LOL as idiots foolishly believe.

We do not listen to these crazy conspiracy theories, and sadly the many stupid devotees also with these mad anti-5G ideas.

Read the example again, new technology always brings our the crazies.

In December 1903 the Wright brothers first flew a machine in the sky, on the front cover of the Catholic newspaper the next day, the heading was -

"Man trying to fly is the work of the devil, if man was meant to fly, God would of gave him wings, no good will come out of this and God will not let this foolish attempt last"

Ha ha ha!! Around the World in 2019, 10 million people flew ever month!

Trying to stop 5G is like the Catholic Church trying to stop people flying on Planes in 1903.

I also notice on Youtube that most of the idiots who are against 5G, are also anti-vaccination morons, stupid chem trail believers and crazy flat Earthers.

Governments will squash these hippie anti-5G fools.

Please read bonafide sites like the CSIRO site and their study.

There are found the real facts that are NOT from crazy conspiracy Youtube and Facebook sites but from proper science.

With all humility, this anti-vaccination stance by some devotees is very dangerous!!

All you have to do is look at History.

The only thing that eventually stopped future Influenza pandemics was vaccines.

Sadly it took 20 years to develop a vaccine for new strains of influenza viruses (1938) that would have to be updated each year because the virus changes.

This new influenza vaccine was given to all Allied troops during world War 2 saving millions.

Over 100 million died from Influenza when there was no vaccine!!

Other vaccines cut the death toll as well.

Remember 22 million Indians also died from the Spanish Influenza pandemic.

Today there are vaccine for the following that killed millions before the 1950s.

The worst killer diseases known to the human race was Tuberculosis that killed 1 billion people over 100 years until a vaccine was developed in 1921.

Small Pox killed 500 million people but was stopped when a vaccine was developed.

80 million died from Cholera originally started from polluted Ganges water in the early 1800 also killing 23 million Indians in the 1860s until a vaccine stopped these deaths.

And the list goes on, history does not lie.

Even the increase in world population from 1.8 billion in 1940 to nearly 8 billion in 2020 is credited to vaccinations that helped bring about better health care.

Before vaccines, 7 out of every 10 children were dead by 4 years old from diseases we now have vaccines for.

However, children under one year old are not given vaccines.

This is why any child over one year old by law, must be vaccinated to attend a nursery or Kindergarten so the un-vaccinated are protected.

The law is strict because recently 7 children under one year old attending a nursery, all died from Measles because the parents of a 4 year old did not vaccinate their child.

She got Measles and attended the nursery contaminating the babies there who were 8 months to 11 months old.

7 died because of these ignorant anti-vaccination parents.

Today there is no choice if you send your kids to a school.

Even the Hare Krishna Gurukula at Murwillumbah have been warned that if they do not vaccinate all kids over one year old, the school will be closed down and all funding from the Government stopped.

I'm nearly 70 years old, one of Prabhupada's first disciples in Australia, what changed my mind about vaccines was when a 5 Year old Russian boy died of diphtheria in Mayapur in 2017 because he was not vaccinated.

Diphtheria was eradicated in Western nations in the 1970s because of vaccines.

It broke my heart to see him die from something he could of been protected from by simply being vaccinated.

Fortunately all other children in the Mayapur Gurukula were immediately vaccinated at that time.

I just pray it continues and ISKCON management not listen to these crazy anti-vaccination devotees.

I learnt from Prabhupada to be practical and that Krishna helps those who help themselves.

In February 1973 Prabhupada cut his finger opening mail and it was seriously infected, he tried many methods to stop the infection, nothing worked.

He then told us to bring him a doctor to give him penicillin.

We did this and his finger healed in a day.

Prabhupada told us to do what is necessary to keep the body healthy so to continue preaching Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's Sankirtan Movement.

He encouraged us to take Western medication but due to age, he did not like going to hospitals, so we brought the doctor to him to give him penicillin.

Anyway one young devotee was confused and asked Prabhupada

"You are Krishna's pure devotee, you are always chanting Hare Krishna and translating Vedic texts, why didn't Krishna directly protect You?"

Prabhupada answered - "O yes Krishna DID protect me, He sent me the penicillin that healed my finger"

Facing the truth in 2020 beyond immature sentimentality and finally excepting the fact man DID go to the Moon we see during the Apollo missions from 1969 to 1972.

Facing the truth in 2020 beyond sentimentality.

The following comment is about present day Hare Krishna beliefs devotees and the ISKCON founder Srila Prabhupada has said about the NASA Moon landings.

I do not fully agree with many devotees regarding the Moon landings being a hoax however, I do understand their sentiment and beliefs are attempting to be out of respect and love for Srila Prabhupada.

However, love should NEVER be blind or based on sentimental love because such immaturity can blind one to the truth.

For example some devotees, including leading sannyasis, believe the International Space Station and communication Satellites are all a hoax made up by NASA.

However, that IS not true, the fact is, through my personal home telescope I can see the International Space Station and many communication satellites as well, very clearly orbiting our globe.

Therefore it is absurd that some immature devotees today still say man cannot enter outer space, claiming it is all a hoax and the International Space Station does not exist in outer space.

They also foolishly claim man's space crafts have never been to Mars and recently Pluto, these are foolish beliefs.

These conspiracy theorist devotees say we cannot see what is really going on in outer space because we all have faulty material senses?

However, having faulty material senses does NOT mean you never rely on them in a basic way, like crossing the road or knowing if water is too hot or too cold.

And knowing the higher you go, the air DOES get thinner until there is no breathable air at all when you reach outer space.

There are many interpretations of what Bhagavatam means when said that air does exist in outer space and holds up all the planets.

This kind of air may refer to solar winds, but one thing is 100% certain, there is no breathable air in outer space.

In fact there is very little air with oxygen even on the top of Mt Everest (29,000 feet)

And when Prabhupada said they can never go to the Moon, he really meant the subtle heavenly realm of Chandraloka that is invisible to our material reality and gross material body.

This subtle heavenly realm of Chandraloka exists on the Moon but we cannot see it, nor are qualified to see or visit this heavenly realm in these gross human bodily forms and the gross machines we build.

Only with the right subtle material body and qualified piety, can one enter Chandraloka, a higher heavenly dimensional reality existing on the Moon.

However, we CAN see the "gross Moon" and without any doubt the astronauts DID go to from 1969 to 1972.

Many devotees are wrong by denying this fact because they misunderstand this important point, even Prabhupada never fully clearly explained this fact because so little was known 50 years ago when Prabhupada was with us.

And today we know space crafts are still going to the Moon from many nations including India, Japan, China, European Union, Israel taking 10s of thousands of high quality photos, some even showing the original Apollo landing sites from 1969 to 1972.

How can anyone keep calling the Moon landings a hoax?

Maybe the real answer is simple, they feel insecure disagreeing with Prabhupada's many comments, afraid to entertain the fact that a pure devotee's opinions need further research and explanation.

This is because Prabhupada's opinions were said at a time when very little was known about the Apollo missions, the science in the 1960s was in its very early pioneering stages.

Steady mature devotees today will understand this.

It is therefore silly to keep deny this fact that man DID go to the Moon (but only the gross moon).

In 2020 it is nonsense to think otherwise based on 45 year old conversations with Prabhupada at a time when the devotees and Prabhupada knew very little about the Apollo missions.

Back in the 1970s very few fully understood the Moon landings, it was all so new.

In fact it was so new in the 1960s and early 70s, very few in society understood or could comprehend that man went to the Moon (the gross Moon we see) reaching there in 3 days in a straight line from our Earth globe.

But Prabhupada says in Bhagavatam it is not possible for NASA to reach the Moon in 3 days?

If Prabhupada had access to the Surya Siddhanta when he was here translating the 5th and 8th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam, he would of also understood the the Moon is NOT further away from Earth than the sun in a straight line from Earth globe to the Moon and IS possible to reach in 3 days.

The Surya Siddhanta clearly reveals the Moon is 258,000 miles from Earth which is close to the REAL distance of 238,000 miles as Sadaputa prabhu also reveals in his books.

In 1969 I was at the Radio telescope in Parks Australia and we measured the distance then because the Apollo Astronauts left beckons on the Moon, there was no silly conspiracy or nonsense hoax!

Devotees who keep pushing this Moon hoax nonsense are sentimentalist fools.

I asked Prabhupada in 1972 about the Moon and the way he explained it to me was that EVEN if they did go to the Moon, they could never enter the heavenly realm of Chandraloka.

I always believed they went to the Moon because of my experience at the Parks Radio telescope in 1969, as explained you cannot fully deny the use of material senses, if you doubted them, you would never choose to walk across a road or judge if the shower is too hot or cold.

You cannot use this stupid excuse we do not know if man reached outer-space because our so called senses are faulty LOL.

Sadly sentimental devotees today do this all the time when challenged about the Moon landings.

When proper logic is given they foolishly claim "our material senses are faulty and we cannot see what is really going on!"

What a lot of silly nonsense! I fully depend on my material senses when I walk across the road or stand near a hot fire.

The fact is no one can survive if they never trusted the judgement of their material senses in day to day living.

Anyway back then in the 1970s with Prabhupada, we were so absorbed in Book distribution, the Moon thing was never really a big deal, we never really cared, we were just young immature men in our early 20s happy to be chanting Hare Krishna, going on Sankirtan and honouring prasadam.

And Prabhupada also had doubts about whether or not they went to the Moon.

Sometimes he said they never went, other times he said they may have gone there but not Chandraloka on the Moon that would of been invisible to the Apollo Astronauts.

He often asked devotees to find out regardless of what he said in discussions with devotees on other morning walks and classes.

He had his opinions on some subjects like Cosmology claiming all Moon rocks came from the Arizona desert however, that is all they were, just his opinions and this Arizona comment is simply not true, those Moon rocks DID come from the Moon.

In 1976 Prabhupada asked Tamal Krishna Maharaj to go to Southern India and find a Vedic Brahmin who is knowledgeable in Vedic Cosmology because Prabhupada said he did not know EVERYTHING about Vedic Cosmology.

Only one Vedic Scholar was found but he knew nothing and was useless. That conversation is on our decoding Vedic Cosmology site.

Prabhupada then told the late Sadaputa Dasa, our ISKCON scientist to research this area and establish the Bhaktivedanta Institute.

Impersonalism and Mayavadi teachings are atheism where their followers do not believe in the individual anti-material life force (the jiva-souls). And the following faiths are ONLY found in the material creation. 1 - Demigod worship in Hinduism, 2 - Christianity, 3 - Islam, 4 - Judaism. All have their heavenly and hellish worlds of punisment and reward for their deeds, only existing in the temporary material creation. However, if one is genuinely seeking true spiritual knowledge and devotion within these materialistic faiths, they can progress and met a genuine pure devotee of Lord Krishna or one of His many Narayana or Vishnu expansions numbering in the billions having many names..

Srila Prabhupada -"Love is reciprocal, voluntary, having a good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force! Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (July 8, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada explains in "Nectar of Devotion" that just like the Sun is meaningless without the sunrays similarly, Krsna is meaningless without His loving devotees.

And that relationship between Krsna and His devotee is NEVER one sided like slave and master, it is ALWAYS reciprocal. Worshipping Krsna (God) is NEVER based on fear as mundane religions like the Catholic Church preached in the Dark Ages to control their followers.

The following are so called faiths faiths found ONLY in the material creation.

1 - Demigod worship in Hinduism,
2 - Christianity,
3 - Islam,
4 - Judaism.

All the above have their heavenly and hellish worlds of reward for their actions in the temporary material creation existing on higher and lower material planets as seen in diagram below.

It is there in the heavenly planets they can live for 10s of thousands of years that seems like an eternity, but it is temporary and eventually when their pious deeds are exhausted all are forced to again take birth in the material creation.

The same with the hellish material planets when their impious deeds are exhausted.

Buddhism, impersonalism and Mayavadi teachings are atheism where their followers do not believe in the individual anti-material life force.

They foolishly believe we are ultimately "all one energy (material energy and NOT spiritual energy)

They do not believe spiritual energy exists, they only believe in different levels or dimensions of material energy.

Therefore, there only "seems to be individual embodied living entities" in nature because of being "embodied" in a separate material bodily forms.

However, none of all the above give the highest knowledge and reality of the anti-material universe known as the Vaikuntha planets or spiritual worlds.

They are all mundane materialistic methods of belief that can NEVER free one from the cycle of repeated birth and death in the material creation.

Even if the jiva-souls remain dormant for quadrillion of life times of Lord Brahma in the impersonal Nirvana (Buddhism) or the Impersonal Brahmajyoti (mystic yogis and Mayavadis), eventually they AGAIN fall down from there and AGAIN take birth in the temporary material creation.

The individual jiva-souls are merged for so long in the impersonal brahmajyoti, they foolish believe that is their origin, but in actual fact the jiva-souls fall to the impersonal Brahmajyoti. No jiva-soul originates from there (some nonsense "clear sheet of consciousness.") as fools believe.

This is because the individual jiva-souls are beginningless and endless and were NEVER created, they are eternal like Kṛṣṇa.

To attain the Vaikuntha planets or Krsna's central planet of Goloka Vrindavan, one must find a pure devotee of the Lord (Narayana, Visnu or ultimately Krsna), because they can guide such a rare soul out of this mundane decaying temporary material creation of repeated birth and death.

Srila Prabhupada has explained to us, if the jiva soul is forced to deny their free will under the heading of "surrender prabhu", then they are no better than dead stone and mindless drones.

Genuinely "choosing" to selflessly work for Krishna as the "individual independent personality" the jiva soul is eternally, is the real meaning of surrender.

The Spiritual World is NOT based on an all pervasive collective impersonal consciousness, where every bodily form thinks in the same way that denies the individual jiva souls of being able to offer their own personal individual contributions or unique offerings.

Loving exchanges with Krishna and His "individual" pure devotees, is based on selfless reciprocation in the Spiritual realm which is also what free will really means.

Without the jiva soul having "free will", there can never be any genuine loving exchanges.

Such selfless exchanges are based on reciprocation, cooperation and individual personal offerings that are unique to each "individual" jiva soul.

If the jiva soul is forced to deny their free will under the heading of "surrender prabhu", then they are no better than dead stone Prabhupada has told us.

They are simply mindless drones in a fake utopia, a fake Kingdom of God.

Those impersonalists fools who preach this nonsense, are only masquerading as Vaishnavas.

They foolishly believe when you become a devotee, you do not even have to think for yourself, because Krishna and His devotees will do all the thinking for you.

Sadly, this kind of poisonous impersonal Mayavadi thinking, or bogus meaning of surrender, is going on right now in some Temples around the World.

Such impersonal dictatorial total control over the jiva soul, only denies the jiva soul of their eternal constitutional nature as the independent individual living being they really are eternally.

Denying one's perpetual individual nature, only stagnates the jiva soul's natural spiritual growth as the individual independent jiva soul they are eternally.

The basic spiritual constitution and eternal make up of each jiva soul in both the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, is based on their "free will" and ability to make their own choices of how they want to selflessly please the Lord.

This "free will" that each jiva soul is endowed with, means they each have their own sense of individual self, who are able to choose for themselves how they want to selflessly serve Krishna in their own unique way, as the "person" they eternally are.

Such qualities makes each jiva soul different than all other jiva souls, each having their own unique characteristics, identity and personality.

This also means having their own unique independent sense of self that is able to selflessly "choose" their own "personal" offerings and service they want to offer to Krishna in the mood of loving exchanges and reciprocation.

Each jiva soul, as their full potential Svarupa spiritual bodily personality in either the Vaikuntha Planets or Goloka-Vrindavana, is therefore always able to make their own individual offerings as the independent person they are eternally, without being forced, threatened, bullied or belittled in anyway.

They can even choose to reject Vishnu or Krishna if they want as Prabhupada has explained.

This is because Krishna will NEVER FORCE the jiva soul to surrender to Him or His pure devotees in anyway, that choice is ALWAYS the jiva souls to make and can never be forced.

And if there was no choice to even leave Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana if one wants, then there can NEVER be genuine love.

Of course Krishna promises that the jiva soul never leaves the Spiritual Worlds once there and always keeps His promise however, the jiva soul may choose otherwise and reject Krishna's promise if they choose to do so.

Even staying or leaving the Spiritual Worlds is based on reciprocation between Krishna and the jiva soul.

Krishna promises that the jiva soul will never leave once there but the jiva also has a choice too and may reject Krishna's promise.

Although the fact is, 90% of jiva souls NEVER leave the Spiritual Worlds and enter the temporary decaying material creation of repeated birth and death.

However, Prabhupada has explained a small minority, less then 10% of jiva souls in the Spiritual Worlds, do choose to leave.

Therefore no one is forced to stay in the Spiritual Worlds, that decision also involves the choice of the individual jiva soul too.

Without that ability to choose, love can never exist.

Real selfless loving service to Krishna is based on free will which means loving exchanges of reciprocation and co-operation.

When this is selflessly performed in Krishna Consciousness, then karmic reactions do not exist.

This is why the law of karma does not exist in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana because to stay there, every jiva soul chooses to do EVERYTHING for Krishna.

The real meaning of "free will" in its full potential in the Spiritual World's of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan.

The real meaning of "free will" in its full potential in the Spiritual World's of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan.

Free will is the eternal make up of every jiva tattva, and such free will is forever expanding in Goloka Vrindavan and Vaikuntha where one serves Krishna by expressing their free will with personal loving exchanges.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you give up your free will, then you are no better than stone" (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Free will is NEVER surrendered to Krishna because it is forever expanding in unlimited new directions in boundless ways where the individual jiva tattva, as their perpetual Svarupa body, chooses how to personally please Krishna in Goloka Vrindavana in their own unique way in the mood of cooperation, reciprocation and selfless love in so many ways. 

No two jiva souls are the same.

Free will is the eternal make up of every jiva tattva and such free will is always expanding in Goloka Vrindavan with Krishna, and on the Vaikuntha planets with Narayana or Vishnu, where one serves the Lord by expressing the very best of their individual personality.

Immature neophyte devotees polluted with impersonalism foolishly believes surrender means giving up your free will to Krishna and let Him be in complete control of your marginal identity.

Such possession, where one loses their free will and independent sense of identity, is impersonalism

The fact is, in the Spiritual world, one NEVER surrenders their free will and sense of individual self that will only make one Krishna's mindless loveless drone or slave!!

Spiritual life is not like that, one always has their free will that allows a loving relationship of reciprocation and loving exchanges with Krishna.

By giving up free will, one accepts a one way relation where real love can NEVER exist under those impersonal conditions.

Love is based on a reciprocation between two or more, and that includes Krishna too in Goloka Vrindavana.

Free will is what makes each jiva-tattva the unique individual they are, who can offer their own personal unique offerings to Krishna different from all other jiva souls.

In the the Spiritual world one NEVER surrenders their free will, they perfect it and for ever increase and expand it.

Free will is NEVER given up when the jiva tattva is in the Spiritual World. Fools who preach this nonsense are preaching impersonalism.

The following nonsense quote is poisonous impersonal nonsense -

"Spiritual life requires an ongoing surrender of free will. Pure spiritual love means completely handing over one's free will to Krishna Himself making Him fully in control, so that you become His instrument and allowing Him to make every decision and actions for you, this is what surrender to Krishna is".

These poisonous impersonal words above are very dangerous.

This is because such philosophy destroys one's sense of self, individuality and one's unique personality and character that allows the jiva tattva to offer their own "personal contributions", which are the very best of who they are to Krishna out of personal love in Goloka Vrindavan, as the eternal independent jiva soul they are.

Such qualities above, ARE the full potential and the real expression of what free will means.

Furthermore, such qualities are part and parcel of EVERY marginal living entity (jiva tattva) and can NEVER be given up, surrendered or artificially denied.

Therefore this impersonal "surrender" preached by fools, where one gives up their free will, only denies one's basic individuality, sense of self and independent nature that each jiva-tattva has eternally.

Free will is FOREVER part and parcel of every jiva tattva's eternal nature and constitution, and always has been as Srila Prabhupada explains -

Srila Prabhupada - "In Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krishna does not want to become a lover like that"

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force. Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (July 8, 1976)

Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krishna give us free will if He knew we would fall down in the material world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - “Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, almighty—therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. "So God does not interfere with your little independence”. (Conversation in Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974 between Srila Prabhupada and his disciples).