The Spiritual World is NOT based on an all pervasive collective impersonal consciousness, where every bodily form thinks in the same way that denies the individual jiva souls of being able to offer their own personal individual contributions or unique offerings.
Loving exchanges with Krishna and His "individual" pure devotees, is based on selfless reciprocation in the Spiritual realm which is also what free will really means.
Without the jiva soul having "free will", there can never be any genuine loving exchanges.
Such selfless exchanges are based on reciprocation, cooperation and individual personal offerings that are unique to each "individual" jiva soul.
If the jiva soul is forced to deny their free will under the heading of "surrender prabhu", then they are no better than dead stone Prabhupada has told us.
They are simply mindless drones in a fake utopia, a fake Kingdom of God.
Those impersonalists fools who preach this nonsense, are only masquerading as Vaishnavas.
They foolishly believe when you become a devotee, you do not even have to think for yourself, because Krishna and His devotees will do all the thinking for you.
Sadly, this kind of poisonous impersonal Mayavadi thinking, or bogus meaning of surrender, is going on right now in some Temples around the World.
Such impersonal dictatorial total control over the jiva soul, only denies the jiva soul of their eternal constitutional nature as the independent individual living being they really are eternally.
Denying one's perpetual individual nature, only stagnates the jiva soul's natural spiritual growth as the individual independent jiva soul they are eternally.
The basic spiritual constitution and eternal make up of each jiva soul in both the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka Vrindavana, is based on their "free will" and ability to make their own choices of how they want to selflessly please the Lord.
This "free will" that each jiva soul is endowed with, means they each have their own sense of individual self, who are able to choose for themselves how they want to selflessly serve Krishna in their own unique way, as the "person" they eternally are.
Such qualities makes each jiva soul different than all other jiva souls, each having their own unique characteristics, identity and personality.
This also means having their own unique independent sense of self that is able to selflessly "choose" their own "personal" offerings and service they want to offer to Krishna in the mood of loving exchanges and reciprocation.
Each jiva soul, as their full potential Svarupa spiritual bodily personality in either the Vaikuntha Planets or Goloka-Vrindavana, is therefore always able to make their own individual offerings as the independent person they are eternally, without being forced, threatened, bullied or belittled in anyway.
They can even choose to reject Vishnu or Krishna if they want as Prabhupada has explained.
This is because Krishna will NEVER FORCE the jiva soul to surrender to Him or His pure devotees in anyway, that choice is ALWAYS the jiva souls to make and can never be forced.
And if there was no choice to even leave Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana if one wants, then there can NEVER be genuine love.
Of course Krishna promises that the jiva soul never leaves the Spiritual Worlds once there and always keeps His promise however, the jiva soul may choose otherwise and reject Krishna's promise if they choose to do so.
Even staying or leaving the Spiritual Worlds is based on reciprocation between Krishna and the jiva soul.
Krishna promises that the jiva soul will never leave once there but the jiva also has a choice too and may reject Krishna's promise.
Although the fact is, 90% of jiva souls NEVER leave the Spiritual Worlds and enter the temporary decaying material creation of repeated birth and death.
However, Prabhupada has explained a small minority, less then 10% of jiva souls in the Spiritual Worlds, do choose to leave.
Therefore no one is forced to stay in the Spiritual Worlds, that decision also involves the choice of the individual jiva soul too.
Without that ability to choose, love can never exist.
Real selfless loving service to Krishna is based on free will which means loving exchanges of reciprocation and co-operation.
When this is selflessly performed in Krishna Consciousness, then karmic reactions do not exist.
This is why the law of karma does not exist in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana because to stay there, every jiva soul chooses to do EVERYTHING for Krishna.
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
ReplyDeleteSelfless love (Bhakti that means devotion) is the key ingredient to making all relationships successful.
Understanding this is also the standard in Spiritual life or Krishna Consciousness when properly understood.
On the spiritual level of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, one never denies, or attempts to extinguish their free will or individuality thinking that is becoming selfless, or is the meaning of surrender.
Being the unique person one eternally is, and having the free will that enables one to give the very best of their character in the service of the Lord, is what selflessness and surrender really means, and is basis of who one is as that independent person.
This is the constitutional make up of every marginal living entity.
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)
The jiva souls in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana therefore are forever expanding their sense of individuality with personal offerings based on selfless loving reciprocation with Krishna, it is NEVER a one sided relation with the Lord.
Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (July 8, 1976)
Real love or Bhakti is reciprocal, as said above, it is NEVER a one way street where surrender to Krishna takes away one's sense of self, individuality and personal contributions.
Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krishna give us free will if He knew we would miss use it in the material world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
This is important to understand because each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality, sense of self and unique characteristics that THEY only individually have, that is part and parcel of each individual marginal living entities make up as the independent eternal "person" they are.
Srila Prabhupada - “Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, almighty—therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. "So God does not interfere with your little independence”. (Conversation in Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974 between Srila Prabhupada and his disciples)
Devotee – "But In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krishna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krishna did not want us to come, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?”
Srila Prabhupada - “That means YOU lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C)