Free will is the eternal make up of every jiva tattva, and such free will is forever expanding in Goloka Vrindavan and Vaikuntha where one serves Krishna by expressing their free will with personal loving exchanges.
Srila Prabhupada - "If you give up your free will, then you are no better than stone" (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Free will is NEVER surrendered to Krishna because it is forever expanding in unlimited new directions in boundless ways where the individual jiva tattva, as their perpetual Svarupa body, chooses how to personally please Krishna in Goloka Vrindavana in their own unique way in the mood of cooperation, reciprocation and selfless love in so many ways.
No two jiva souls are the same.
Free will is the eternal make up of every jiva tattva and such free will is always expanding in Goloka Vrindavan with Krishna, and on the Vaikuntha planets with Narayana or Vishnu, where one serves the Lord by expressing the very best of their individual personality.
Immature neophyte devotees polluted with impersonalism foolishly believes surrender means giving up your free will to Krishna and let Him be in complete control of your marginal identity.
Such possession, where one loses their free will and independent sense of identity, is impersonalism
The fact is, in the Spiritual world, one NEVER surrenders their free will and sense of individual self that will only make one Krishna's mindless loveless drone or slave!!
Spiritual life is not like that, one always has their free will that allows a loving relationship of reciprocation and loving exchanges with Krishna.
By giving up free will, one accepts a one way relation where real love can NEVER exist under those impersonal conditions.
Love is based on a reciprocation between two or more, and that includes Krishna too in Goloka Vrindavana.
Free will is what makes each jiva-tattva the unique individual they are, who can offer their own personal unique offerings to Krishna different from all other jiva souls.
In the the Spiritual world one NEVER surrenders their free will, they perfect it and for ever increase and expand it.
Free will is NEVER given up when the jiva tattva is in the Spiritual World. Fools who preach this nonsense are preaching impersonalism.
The following nonsense quote is poisonous impersonal nonsense -
"Spiritual life requires an ongoing surrender of free will. Pure spiritual love means completely handing over one's free will to Krishna Himself making Him fully in control, so that you become His instrument and allowing Him to make every decision and actions for you, this is what surrender to Krishna is".
These poisonous impersonal words above are very dangerous.
This is because such philosophy destroys one's sense of self, individuality and one's unique personality and character that allows the jiva tattva to offer their own "personal contributions", which are the very best of who they are to Krishna out of personal love in Goloka Vrindavan, as the eternal independent jiva soul they are.
Such qualities above, ARE the full potential and the real expression of what free will means.
Furthermore, such qualities are part and parcel of EVERY marginal living entity (jiva tattva) and can NEVER be given up, surrendered or artificially denied.
Therefore this impersonal "surrender" preached by fools, where one gives up their free will, only denies one's basic individuality, sense of self and independent nature that each jiva-tattva has eternally.
Free will is FOREVER part and parcel of every jiva tattva's eternal nature and constitution, and always has been as Srila Prabhupada explains -
Srila Prabhupada - "In Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krishna does not want to become a lover like that"
Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force. Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (July 8, 1976)
Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krishna give us free will if He knew we would fall down in the material world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Srila Prabhupada - “Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, almighty—therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. "So God does not interfere with your little independence”. (Conversation in Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974 between Srila Prabhupada and his disciples).
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
ReplyDeleteSelfless love (Bhakti that means devotion) is the key ingredient to making all relationships successful.
Understanding this is also the standard in Spiritual life or Krishna Consciousness when properly understood.
On the spiritual level of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, one never denies, or attempts to extinguish their free will or individuality thinking that is becoming selfless, or is the meaning of surrender.
Being the unique person one eternally is, and having the free will that enables one to give the very best of their character in the service of the Lord, is what selflessness and surrender really means, and is basis of who one is as that independent person.
This is the constitutional make up of every marginal living entity.
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)
The jiva souls in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana therefore are forever expanding their sense of individuality with personal offerings based on selfless loving reciprocation with Krishna, it is NEVER a one sided relation with the Lord.
Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (July 8, 1976)
Real love or Bhakti is reciprocal, as said above, it is NEVER a one way street where surrender to Krishna takes away one's sense of self, individuality and personal contributions.
Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krishna give us free will if He knew we would miss use it in the material world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
This is important to understand because each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality, sense of self and unique characteristics that THEY only individually have, that is part and parcel of each individual marginal living entities make up as the independent eternal "person" they are.
Srila Prabhupada - “Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, almighty—therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. "So God does not interfere with your little independence”. (Conversation in Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974 between Srila Prabhupada and his disciples)
Devotee – "But In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krishna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krishna did not want us to come, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?”
Srila Prabhupada - “That means YOU lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C)