Facing the truth in 2020 beyond immature sentimentality and finally excepting the fact man DID go to the Moon we see during the Apollo missions from 1969 to 1972.

Facing the truth in 2020 beyond sentimentality.

The following comment is about present day Hare Krishna beliefs devotees and the ISKCON founder Srila Prabhupada has said about the NASA Moon landings.

I do not fully agree with many devotees regarding the Moon landings being a hoax however, I do understand their sentiment and beliefs are attempting to be out of respect and love for Srila Prabhupada.

However, love should NEVER be blind or based on sentimental love because such immaturity can blind one to the truth.

For example some devotees, including leading sannyasis, believe the International Space Station and communication Satellites are all a hoax made up by NASA.

However, that IS not true, the fact is, through my personal home telescope I can see the International Space Station and many communication satellites as well, very clearly orbiting our globe.

Therefore it is absurd that some immature devotees today still say man cannot enter outer space, claiming it is all a hoax and the International Space Station does not exist in outer space.

They also foolishly claim man's space crafts have never been to Mars and recently Pluto, these are foolish beliefs.

These conspiracy theorist devotees say we cannot see what is really going on in outer space because we all have faulty material senses?

However, having faulty material senses does NOT mean you never rely on them in a basic way, like crossing the road or knowing if water is too hot or too cold.

And knowing the higher you go, the air DOES get thinner until there is no breathable air at all when you reach outer space.

There are many interpretations of what Bhagavatam means when said that air does exist in outer space and holds up all the planets.

This kind of air may refer to solar winds, but one thing is 100% certain, there is no breathable air in outer space.

In fact there is very little air with oxygen even on the top of Mt Everest (29,000 feet)

And when Prabhupada said they can never go to the Moon, he really meant the subtle heavenly realm of Chandraloka that is invisible to our material reality and gross material body.

This subtle heavenly realm of Chandraloka exists on the Moon but we cannot see it, nor are qualified to see or visit this heavenly realm in these gross human bodily forms and the gross machines we build.

Only with the right subtle material body and qualified piety, can one enter Chandraloka, a higher heavenly dimensional reality existing on the Moon.

However, we CAN see the "gross Moon" and without any doubt the astronauts DID go to from 1969 to 1972.

Many devotees are wrong by denying this fact because they misunderstand this important point, even Prabhupada never fully clearly explained this fact because so little was known 50 years ago when Prabhupada was with us.

And today we know space crafts are still going to the Moon from many nations including India, Japan, China, European Union, Israel taking 10s of thousands of high quality photos, some even showing the original Apollo landing sites from 1969 to 1972.

How can anyone keep calling the Moon landings a hoax?

Maybe the real answer is simple, they feel insecure disagreeing with Prabhupada's many comments, afraid to entertain the fact that a pure devotee's opinions need further research and explanation.

This is because Prabhupada's opinions were said at a time when very little was known about the Apollo missions, the science in the 1960s was in its very early pioneering stages.

Steady mature devotees today will understand this.

It is therefore silly to keep deny this fact that man DID go to the Moon (but only the gross moon).

In 2020 it is nonsense to think otherwise based on 45 year old conversations with Prabhupada at a time when the devotees and Prabhupada knew very little about the Apollo missions.

Back in the 1970s very few fully understood the Moon landings, it was all so new.

In fact it was so new in the 1960s and early 70s, very few in society understood or could comprehend that man went to the Moon (the gross Moon we see) reaching there in 3 days in a straight line from our Earth globe.

But Prabhupada says in Bhagavatam it is not possible for NASA to reach the Moon in 3 days?

If Prabhupada had access to the Surya Siddhanta when he was here translating the 5th and 8th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam, he would of also understood the the Moon is NOT further away from Earth than the sun in a straight line from Earth globe to the Moon and IS possible to reach in 3 days.

The Surya Siddhanta clearly reveals the Moon is 258,000 miles from Earth which is close to the REAL distance of 238,000 miles as Sadaputa prabhu also reveals in his books.

In 1969 I was at the Radio telescope in Parks Australia and we measured the distance then because the Apollo Astronauts left beckons on the Moon, there was no silly conspiracy or nonsense hoax!

Devotees who keep pushing this Moon hoax nonsense are sentimentalist fools.

I asked Prabhupada in 1972 about the Moon and the way he explained it to me was that EVEN if they did go to the Moon, they could never enter the heavenly realm of Chandraloka.

I always believed they went to the Moon because of my experience at the Parks Radio telescope in 1969, as explained you cannot fully deny the use of material senses, if you doubted them, you would never choose to walk across a road or judge if the shower is too hot or cold.

You cannot use this stupid excuse we do not know if man reached outer-space because our so called senses are faulty LOL.

Sadly sentimental devotees today do this all the time when challenged about the Moon landings.

When proper logic is given they foolishly claim "our material senses are faulty and we cannot see what is really going on!"

What a lot of silly nonsense! I fully depend on my material senses when I walk across the road or stand near a hot fire.

The fact is no one can survive if they never trusted the judgement of their material senses in day to day living.

Anyway back then in the 1970s with Prabhupada, we were so absorbed in Book distribution, the Moon thing was never really a big deal, we never really cared, we were just young immature men in our early 20s happy to be chanting Hare Krishna, going on Sankirtan and honouring prasadam.

And Prabhupada also had doubts about whether or not they went to the Moon.

Sometimes he said they never went, other times he said they may have gone there but not Chandraloka on the Moon that would of been invisible to the Apollo Astronauts.

He often asked devotees to find out regardless of what he said in discussions with devotees on other morning walks and classes.

He had his opinions on some subjects like Cosmology claiming all Moon rocks came from the Arizona desert however, that is all they were, just his opinions and this Arizona comment is simply not true, those Moon rocks DID come from the Moon.

In 1976 Prabhupada asked Tamal Krishna Maharaj to go to Southern India and find a Vedic Brahmin who is knowledgeable in Vedic Cosmology because Prabhupada said he did not know EVERYTHING about Vedic Cosmology.

Only one Vedic Scholar was found but he knew nothing and was useless. That conversation is on our decoding Vedic Cosmology site.

Prabhupada then told the late Sadaputa Dasa, our ISKCON scientist to research this area and establish the Bhaktivedanta Institute.