Tuesday, February 16, 2021

Krsna is the ONLY one with 100% of His own qualities that no other expansion has in them ALL in full like Him.

Many devotees have asked if only Lord Krsna has 64 attributes or qualities in full, meaning Krsna is the ONLY one with 100% of His own qualities that no other expansion has.

Yes, ONLY Krsna has 64 qualities or attributes in full which is the full 100% of His own attributes.Also Lord Siva, who is in a league of his own, has 54 qualities or attributes of Krsna's 64 qualities which means Siva has 84.375%.

And the jiva-tattva or jiva-souls known as the "marginal living entities", have 50 qualities or attributes of Krsna's 64 qualities which is 78.125% of His 100% qualities.

 







Sunday, February 14, 2021

A relationship between two can only experience voluntary loving exchanges and unique emotions and that is why Krsna gave the jiva-souls their freedom (free will)

I offer my respectful obeisances unto His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, who is very dear to Lord Kṛṣṇa, having taken shelter at His lotus feet.

​Our respectful obeisances are unto you, O spiritual master, servant of Sarasvatî Gosvâmî. You are kindly preaching the message of Lord Caitanyadeva and delivering the Western countries, which are filled with impersonalism and voidism.

​Sri Krsna Caitanya, Prabhu Nityananda, Sri Advaita, Gadadhara, Srivas adi gaura bhakta vrinda.

​Hare Krsna Hare Kṛṣṇa Krsna Kṛṣṇa Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.

Thank you Srila Prabhupada for giving us so much vast knowledge and wisdom explaining the real meaning of surrender, devotion and love.

You have taught us the following-

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "Unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Ultimately, each individual jiva-soul is a unique independent person who is able to voluntarily choose for themselves how to serve Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, or even ignore Him if they want.

As Prabhupada explains, Krsna never forces the jiva-souls to surrender to Him, He never forces them to love Him, that must be voluntary bases on a two-way exchange, otherwise loving emotions can never exist without those voluntary reciprocal exchanges that makes us the person we are.

Srila Prabhupāda - ''Unless there are "two persons", where is the question of love? Love means "two persons", then there is exchange, then there is love." (August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Devotion, surrender and genuine loving selfless service can only exist when "two" are involved in a "two-way" reciprocal relationship of loving exchanges.

Those loving exchanges between the devotee, Guru and Krsna can never exist in a selfish, inconsiderate "one-way" forceful domineering dictatorship.

Loving expressions and exchanges can never exist in such a dictatorial forceful one-sided relationship of just being told what to do, what to think, and how to act without the jiva-souls having their own personal contributions to offer in Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha.

Srila Prabhupada – “Krsna  ever forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. This is because loving devotion, obedience, trust and loyalty between Krsna and His devotee is never a "one-way" street in the Spiritual Planets, it is Aways expressed in two-way voluntarily loving exchanges.

Of course in the material creation under the guidance of a bonafide Spiritual Master, the conditioned jiva-soul is being trained up to always remember Krsna, therefore there are strict (sometimes even forceful) instructions by the genuine Spiritual master meant to help the embodied jiva-soul wake up from material conditioning he/she in under. 

This should be understood properly by realizing the difference between the restricted material creation where free will almost does not exist, and one's full freedom and full consciousness in the Spiritual Worlds. 

"Loving voluntary service" can only really exist when the conditioned jiva-soul is trained up to eventually reach their full potential as Krsna's pure devotee where they realize their right of reciprocation with Krsna. 

Only then can love be genuinely expressed in its natural "two-way" relationship of reciprocal exchanges between Krsna and the jiva-soul.

A relationship between two can only experience love and that is why Krsna gave the jiva-souls their freedom (free will) in the first place.

The full expression and potential of the individual jiva-souls (marginal living entity) is only fully expressed, experienced and realized in the Spiritual worlds, and not in the restricted temporary decaying material worlds.

Surrendering to Krsna is enriched and further enhanced by the jiva-soul's personal unique loving voluntary contributions of service Prabhupada taught us, that increase and magnify the relationship of loving exchanges and reciprocation eternally between Krsna and the jiva soul in a two-way exchange.

Ktsna gave the jiva-souls their freedom (free will) for the purpose of establishing a two-way voluntary relationship of personal unique loving feelings experienced differently with each individual jiva soul.

The fact is, real freedom or the full potential of the jiva-soul's personality, is only experienced in Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha where no one is forced to do anything.

This is because our loving relationship with Krsna in the Spiritual World is never founded on a demanding forceful relationship with Krsna where one is always told what to do, and just obey without personal contributions  (offerings) and intelligent inquiry.

The fact is, this kind of mindless impersonal surrender only exists in a one-sided dominant relationship where the jiva-soul's personality and character are artificially suppressed.

This means their natural constitution of independent self expression of choosing their own personal contributions to offer to Krsna, is replaced by that one-way dictatorship of being told what to do and what to offer and how to think.

No, the spiritual worlds are not impersonal like that.

Srila Prabhupada - ''Love means two persons, I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Evening Darsana, August 9, 1976, Tehran) 

Love or genuine selfless service is always based on a two-way exchange of feelings, this means epopach jiva-soul provides their own individual contributions of personal inputs that express their own lindependent individuality and free will. 

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

Serving Krsna is not impersonal, which includes a "one way" domineering relationship. 

Surrender to Krsna does not mean giving up your intelligence, free will, individuality and the awareness of being an independent unique person you always are eternally.

Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha are not a totalitarian abodes for the individual jiva-souls in their relationship with Krsna or Visnu where they are told how to think, how to act, and how to serve. 

No, the Kingdom of God is not like that, there are always loving two-way exchanges of feelings going on.

Respect and service are based on voluntary exchanges,  reciprocation and cooperation going on between Krsna and His devotees.

Without the expression of free will that allows  the jiva-souls to have the independence to reciprocate, the jiva-souls would be no better than dead useless stone.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

The spiritual worlds of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are personal Kingdoms based on two-way loving exchanges.

Such ability to voluntarily  cooperate with Krsna and His devotees, it is never a "one-way" demanding forceful relationship.

Ultimately, all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are Krsna's servants and dear friends however, that does not mean we have to give up our free will, individuality and unique personality to be Krsna's friend and servant.   

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

As already explained, free will in its full potential only fully exists in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana and is greatly restricted in the material creation. 


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The conclusion is, of course "free will"  exists fully in Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha because it is part and parcel of the constitutional make up of the marginal living entity (individual jiva-soul). 

And Krsna ALWAYS allows "free will" in Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha because if He didn't then loving exchanges and person would NEVER exist. 

If Krsna denied the jiva-soul's their free will, then they can NEVER experience love or know what love is. Therefore, as explained above, love is a "two-way" exchange of feelings, it is NEVER one-way or one sided because a relationship expressed by a "one-way" dominance without having an exchange between two, is NOT love at all, it is impersonalism and slavery.

Therefore without "free will" and being allowed to contribute personal offerings based on one's unique independent choices.

Even though fully dependent on Krsna, the jiva-soul will NEVER experience wonderful loving reciprocal exchanges unique between them and Krsna if their free will was taken away from them.

Free will or the ability to choose is eternally part and parcel of the jiva souls (marginal living entities) natural constitution and ALWAYS exists without beginning or end.

Therefore freedom or "free will" means the jiva-soul can choose to serve Krsna, or even reject Him if they want, it is their choice. 

Krsna does not force the jiva-soul to surrender to Him, if He did, then that is NOT love, it is exploitation.

Srila Prabhupada  - "In Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.¹” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver". (Washington DC July 1976)

The amazing thing is, Krsna ALWAYS serves (loves) His pure devotees far more than they can EVER serve Him!!

Thank you Srila Prabhupada for inspiring all these realizations based on your teachings.

Your fallen yet determined servant Gauragopala dasa ACBSP.
















Friday, February 12, 2021

"The Subterranean Heavenly Planets" Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 5 Chapter 24 Text 1 to Text 31. By His Divine Grace A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Includes comments at end.

"The Subterranean Heavenly Planets"

Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 5 Chapter 24 Text 1 to Text 31. 

By His Divine Grace A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.

This chapter describes the planet Rāhu, which is 10,000 yojanas (80,000 miles) below the sun, and it also describes Atala and the other lower planetary systems. 

Rāhu is situated below the sun and moon. It is between these two planets and the earth. 

When Rāhu conceals the sun and moon, eclipses occur, either total or partial, depending on whether Rāhu moves in a straight or curving way.

Below Rāhu by another 1,000,000 yojanas (8 million miles) are the planets of the Siddhas, Cāraṇas and Vidyādharas, and below these are planets such as Yakṣaloka and Rakṣaloka. 

Below these planets is the earth, and 70,000 yojanas (280,000 miles) below the earth are the lower planetary systems — Atala, Vitala, Sutala, Talātala, Mahātala, Rasātala and Pātāla. 

Demons and Rakṣasas live in these lower planetary systems with their wives and children, always engaged in sense gratification and not fearing their next births.

The sunshine does not reach these planets, but they are illuminated by jewels fixed upon the hoods of snakes. Because of these shining gems there is practically no darkness. 

Those living in these planets do not become old or diseased, and they are not afraid of death from any cause but the time factor, the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

In the planet Atala, the yawning of a demon has produced three kinds of women, called svairiṇī (independent), kāmiṇī (lusty) and puḿścalī (very easily subdued by men). 

Below Atala is the planet Vitala, wherein Lord Śiva and his wife Gaurī reside.

Because of their presence, a kind of gold is produced called hāṭaka. 

Below Vitala is the planet Sutala, the abode of Bali Mahārāja, the most fortunate king. 

Bali Mahārāja was favored by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Vāmanadeva, because of his intense devotional service.

The Lord went to the sacrificial arena of Bali Mahārāja and begged him for three paces of land, and on this plea the Lord took from him all his possessions. 

When Bali Mahārāja agreed to all this, the Lord was very pleased, and therefore the Lord serves as his doorkeeper. 

The description of Bali Mahārāja appears in the Eighth Canto of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.

When the Supreme Personality of Godhead offers a devotee material happiness, this is not His real favor. 

The demigods, who are very puffed up by their material opulence, pray to the Lord only for material happiness, not knowing anything better.

Devotees like Prahlāda Mahārāja, however, do not want material happiness. 

Not to speak of material happiness, they do not want even liberation from material bondage, although one can achieve this liberation simply by chanting the holy name of the Lord, even with improper pronunciation.

Below Sutala is the planet Talātala, the abode of the demon Maya. This demon is always materially happy because he is favored by Lord Śiva, but he cannot achieve spiritual happiness at any time. 

Below Talātala is the planet Mahātala, where there are many snakes with hundreds and thousands of hoods. 

Below Mahātala is Rasātala, and below that is Pātāla, where the serpent Vasukī lives with his associates.

SB 5.24 Text 1

Śrī Śukadeva Gosvāmī said: My dear King, some historians, the speakers of the Purāṇas, say that 10,000 yojanas [80,000 miles] below the sun is the planet known as Rāhu, which moves like one of the stars.

The presiding deity of that planet, who is the son of Siṁhikā, is the most abominable of all asuras, but although he is completely unfit to assume the position of a demigod or planetary deity, he has achieved that position by the grace of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Later I shall speak further about him.

SB 5.24. Text 2

The sun globe, which is a source of heat, extends for 10,000 yojanas [80,000 miles]. The moon extends for 20,000 yojanas [160,000 miles], and Rāhu extends for 30,000 yojanas [240,000 miles]. 

Formerly, when nectar was being distributed, Rāhu tried to create dissension between the sun and moon by interposing himself between them. 

Rāhu is inimical toward both the sun and the moon, and therefore he always tries to cover the sunshine and moonshine on the dark-moon day and full-moon night.

Purport:

As stated herein, the sun extends for 10,000 yojanas, and the moon extends for twice that, or 20,000 yojanas. The word dvādaśa should be understood to mean twice as much as ten, or twenty. 

In the opinion of Vijayadhvaja, the extent of Rāhu should be twice that of the moon, or 40,000 yojanas.

However to reconcile this apparent contradiction to the text of the Bhāgavatam, Vijayadhvaja cites the following quotation concerning Rāhu; rāhu-soma-ravīṇāṁ tu maṇḍalā dvi-guṇoktitām. 

This means that Rāhu is twice as large as the moon, which is twice as large as the sun. This is the conclusion of the commentator Vijayadhvaja.

SB 5.24. Text 3

After hearing from the sun and moon demigods about Rāhu’s attack, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Viṣṇu, engages His disc, known as the Sudarśana cakra, to protect them. 

The Sudarśana cakra is the Lord’s most beloved devotee and is favored by the Lord. 

The intense heat of its effulgence, meant for killing non-Vaiṣṇavas, is unbearable to Rāhu, and he therefore flees in fear of it. 

During the time Rāhu disturbs the sun or moon, there occurs what people commonly know as an eclipse.

Purport:

The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Viṣṇu, is always the protector of His devotees, who are also known as demigods. 

The controlling demigods are most obedient to Lord Viṣṇu, although they also want material sense enjoyment, and that is why they are called demigods, or almost godly. 

Although Rāhu attempts to attack both the sun and the moon, they are protected by Lord Viṣṇu.

Being very afraid of Lord Viṣṇu’s cakra, Rāhu cannot stay in front of the sun or moon for more than a muhūrta (forty-eight minutes). 

The phenomenon that occurs when Rāhu blocks the light of the sun or moon is called an eclipse. 

The attempt of the scientists of this earth to go to the moon is as demoniac as Rāhu’s attack. 

Of course. their attempts will be failures because no one can enter the moon or sun so easily. Like the attack of Rāhu, such attempts will certainly be failures.

SB 5.24. Text 4

Below Rāhu by 10,000 yojanas [80,000 miles] are the planets known as Siddhaloka, Cāraṇaloka and Vidyādhara-loka.

Purport:

It is said that the residents of Siddhaloka, being naturally endowed with the powers of yogīs, can go from one planet to another by their natural mystic powers without using airplanes or similar machines.

SB 5.24. Text 5

Beneath Vidyādhara-loka, Cāraṇaloka and Siddhaloka, in the sky called antarikṣa, are the places of enjoyment for the Yakṣas, Rākṣasas, Piśācas, ghosts and so on. Antarikṣa extends as far as the wind blows and the clouds float in the sky. Above this there is no more air.

SB 5.24. Text 6

Below the abodes of the Yakṣas and Rākṣasas by a distance of 100 yojanas [800 miles] is the planet earth. Its upper limits extend as high as swans, hawks, eagles and similar large birds can fly.

SB 5.24. Text 7

My dear King, beneath this earth are seven other planets, known as Atala, Vitala, Sutala, Talātala, Mahātala, Rasātala and Pātāla. 

I have already explained the situation of the planetary systems of earth. The width and length of the seven lower planetary systems are calculated to be exactly the same as those of earth.

SB 5.24. Text 8

In these seven planetary systems, which are also known as the subterranean heavens [bila-svarga], there are very beautiful houses, gardens and places of sense enjoyment, which are even more opulent than those in the higher planets because the demons have a very high standard of sensual pleasure, wealth and influence.

Most of the residents of these planets, who are known as Daityas, Dānavas and Nāgas, live as householders. Their wives, children, friends and society are all fully engaged in illusory material happiness. 

The sense enjoyment of the demigods is sometimes disturbed, but the residents of these planets enjoy life without disturbances. Thus they are understood to be very attached to illusory happiness.

Purport:

According to the statements of Prahlāda Mahārāja, material enjoyment is māyā-sukha, illusory enjoyment. A Vaiṣṇava is full of anxieties for the deliverance of all living entities from such false enjoyment. 

Prahlāda Mahārāja says, māyā-sukhāya bharam udvahato vimūḍhān: these fools (vimūḍhas) are engaged in material happiness, which is surely temporary.

Whether in the heavenly planets, the lower planets or the earthly planets, people are engrossed in temporary, material happiness, forgetting that in due course of time they have to change their bodies according to the material laws and suffer the repetition of birth, death, old age and disease.

Not caring what will happen in the next birth, gross materialists are simply busy enjoying during the present short span of life. 

A Vaiṣṇava is always anxious to give all such bewildered materialists the real happiness of spiritual bliss.

SB 5.24. Text 9

My dear King, in the imitation heavens known as bila-svarga there is a great demon named Maya Dānava, who is an expert artist and architect. He has constructed many brilliantly decorated cities. 

There are many wonderful houses, walls, gates, assembly houses, temples, yards and temple compounds, as well as many hotels serving as residential quarters for foreigners.

The houses for the leaders of these planets are constructed with the most valuable jewels, and they are always crowded with living entities known as Nāgas and Asuras, as well as many pigeons, parrots and similar birds. All in all, these imitation heavenly cities are most beautifully situated and attractively decorated.

SB 5.24. Text 10

The parks and gardens in the artificial heavens surpass in beauty those of the upper heavenly planets. 

The trees in those gardens, embraced by creepers, bend with a heavy burden of twigs with fruits and flowers, and therefore they appear extraordinarily beautiful. 

That beauty could attract anyone and make his mind fully blossom in the pleasure of sense gratification. 

There are many lakes and reservoirs with clear, transparent water, agitated by jumping fish and decorated with many flowers such as lilies, kuvalayas, kahlāras and blue and red lotuses. 

Pairs of cakravākas and many other water birds nest in the lakes and always enjoy in a happy mood, making sweet, pleasing vibrations that are very satisfying and conducive to enjoyment of the senses.

SB 5.24. Text 11

Since there is no sunshine in those subterranean planets, time is not divided into days and nights, and consequently fear produced by time does not exist.

SB 5.24. Text 12

Many great serpents reside there with gems on their hoods, and the effulgence of these gems dissipates the darkness in all directions.

SB 5.24. Text 13

Since the residents of these planets drink and bathe in juices and elixirs made from wonderful herbs, they are freed from all anxieties and physical diseases. 

They have no experience of grey hair, wrinkles or invalidity, their bodily lusters do not fade, their perspiration does not cause a bad smell, and they are not troubled by fatigue or by lack of energy or enthusiasm due to old age.

SB 5.24. Text 14

They live very auspiciously and do not fear death from anything but death’s established time, which is the effulgence of the Sudarśana cakra of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Purport:

This is the defect of material existence. Everything in the subterranean heavens is very nicely arranged. 

There are well situated residential quarters, there is a pleasing atmosphere, and there are no bodily inconveniences or mental anxieties, but nevertheless those who live there have to take another birth according to karma.

Persons whose minds are dull cannot understand this defect of a materialistic civilization aiming at material comforts. 

One may make his living conditions very pleasing for the senses, but despite all favorable conditions, one must in due course of time meet death. 

The members of a demoniac civilization endeavor to make their living conditions very comfortable, but they cannot check death. The influence of the Sudarśana cakra will not allow their so-called material happiness to endure.

SB 5.24. Text 15

When the Sudarśana disc enters those provinces, the pregnant wives of the demons all have miscarriages due to fear of its effulgence.

SB 5.24. Text 16

My dear King, now I shall describe to you the lower planetary systems, one by one, beginning from Atala. In Atala there is a demon, the son of Maya Dānava named Bala, who created ninety-six kinds of mystic power. 

Some so-called yogīs and svāmīs take advantage of this mystic power to cheat people even today. Simply by yawning, the demon Bala created three kinds of women, known as svairiṇī, kāmiṇī and puḿścalī.

The svairiṇīs like to marry men from their own group, the kāmiṇīs marry men from any group, and the puḿścalīs change husbands one after another. 

If a man enters the planet of Atala, these women immediately capture him and induce him to drink an intoxicating beverage made with a drug known as hāṭaka [cannabis indica].

This intoxicant endows the man with great sexual prowess, of which the women take advantage for enjoyment. 

A woman will enchant him with attractive glances, intimate words, smiles of love and then embraces. In this way she induces him to enjoy sex with her to her full satisfaction.

Because of his increased sexual power, the man thinks himself stronger than ten thousand elephants and considers himself most perfect. Indeed, illusioned and intoxicated by false pride, he thinks himself God, ignoring impending death.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24. Text 17

The next planet below Atala is Vitala, wherein Lord Śiva, who is known as the master of gold mines, lives with his personal associates, the ghosts and similar living entities. 

Lord Śiva, as the progenitor, engages in sex with Bhavānī, the progenitress, to produce living entities, and from the mixture of their vital fluid the river named Hāṭakī is generated. 

When fire, being made to blaze by the wind, drinks of this river and then sizzles and spits it out, it produces gold called Hāṭaka. 

The demons who live on that planet with their wives decorate themselves with various ornaments made from that gold, and thus they live there very happily.

Purport:

It appears that when Bhava and Bhavānī, Lord Śiva and his wife, unite sexually, the emulsification of their secretions creates a chemical which when heated by fire can produce gold. 

It is said that the alchemists of the medieval age tried to prepare gold from base metal, and Śrīla Sanātana Gosvāmī also states that when bell metal is treated with mercury, it can produce gold. 

Śrīla Sanātana Gosvāmī mentions this in regard to the initiation of low-class men to turn them into brāhmaṇas. Sanātana Gosvāmī said:

yathā kāñcanatāḿ yātikāḿsyaḿ rasa-vidhānataḥtathā dīkṣā-vidhānenadvijatvaḿ jāyate nṛṇām

"As one can transform kaḿsa, or bell metal, into gold by treating it with mercury, one can also turn a lowborn man into a brāhmaṇa by initiating him properly into Vaiṣṇava activities."

The International Society for Krishna Consciousness is trying to turn mlecchas and yavanas into real brāhmaṇas by properly initiating them and stopping them from engaging in meat-eating, intoxication, illicit sex and gambling.

One who stops these four principles of sinful activity and chants the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra can certainly become a pure brāhmaṇa through the process of bona fide initiation, as suggested by Śrīla Sanātana Gosvāmī.

Apart from this, if one takes a hint from this verse and learns how to mix mercury with bell metal by properly heating and melting them, one can get gold very cheaply. 

The alchemists of the medieval age tried to manufacture gold, but they were unsuccessful, perhaps because they did not follow the right instructions.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24. Text 18

Below the planet Vitala is another planet, known as Sutala, where the great son of Mahārāja Virocana, Bali Mahārāja, who is celebrated as the most pious king, resides even now.

For the welfare of Indra, the King of heaven, Lord Viṣṇu appeared in the form of a dwarf brahmacārī as the son of Aditi and tricked Bali Mahārāja by begging for only three paces of land but taking all the three worlds. 

Being very pleased with Bali Mahārāja for giving all his possessions, the Lord returned his kingdom and made him richer than the opulent King Indra.

Even now, Bali Mahārāja engages in devotional service by worshiping the Supreme Personality of Godhead in the planet of Sutala.

Purport:

The Supreme Personality of Godhead is described as Uttamaśloka, "He who is worshiped by the best of selected Sanskrit verses," and His devotees such as Bali Mahārāja are also worshiped by puṇya-śloka, verses that increase one's piety. 

Bali Mahārāja offered everything to the Lord — his wealth, his kingdom and even his own body (sarvātma-nivedane baliḥ).

The Lord appeared before Bali Mahārāja as a brāhmaṇa beggar, and Bali Mahārāja gave Him everything he had. However, Bali Mahārāja did not become poor; by donating all his possessions to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he became a successful devotee and got everything back again with the blessings of the Lord.

Similarly, those who give contributions to expand the activities of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement and to accomplish its objectives will never be losers; they will get their wealth back with the blessings of Lord Kṛṣṇa. 

On the other side, those who collect contributions on behalf of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness should be very careful not to use even a farthing of the collection for any purpose other than the transcendental loving service of the Lord.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24. Text 19

My dear King, Bali Mahārāja donated all his possessions to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Vāmanadeva, but one should certainly not conclude that he achieved his great worldly opulence in bila-svarga as a result of his charitable disposition.

The Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is the source of life for all living entities, lives within everyone as the friendly Supersoul, and under His direction a living entity enjoys or suffers in the material world. 

Greatly appreciating the transcendental qualities of the Lord, Bali Mahārāja offered everything at His lotus feet.

His purpose, however, was not to gain anything material, but to become a pure devotee. For a pure devotee, the door of liberation is automatically opened. 

One should not think that Bali Mahārāja was given so much material opulence merely because of his charity.

When one becomes a pure devotee in love, he may also be blessed with a good material position by the will of the Supreme Lord. 

However, one should not mistakenly think that the material opulence of a devotee is the result of his devotional service. 

The real result of devotional service is the awakening of pure love for the Supreme Personality of Godhead, which continues under all circumstances.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24. Text 20

If one who is embarrassed by hunger or who falls down or stumbles chants the holy name of the Lord even once, willingly or unwillingly, he is immediately freed from the reactions of his past deeds. 

Karmīs entangled in material activities face many difficulties in the practice of mystic yoga and other endeavors to achieve that same freedom.

Purport:

It is not a fact that one has to offer his material possessions to the Supreme Personality of Godhead and be liberated before he can engage in devotional service. 

A devotee automatically attains liberation without separate endeavors. 

Bali Mahārāja did not get back all his material possessions merely because of his charity to the Lord.

One who becomes a devotee, free from material desires and motives, regards all opportunities, both material and spiritual, as benedictions from the Lord, and in this way his service to the Lord is never hampered. 

Bhukti, material enjoyment, and mukti, liberation, are only by-products of devotional service.

A devotee need not work separately to attain mukti. Śrīla Bilvamańgala Ṭhākura said, muktiḥ svayaḿ mukulitāñjaliḥ sevate 'smān: a pure devotee of the Lord does not have to endeavor separately for mukti, because mukti is always ready to serve him.

In this regard, Caitanya-caritāmṛta (Antya 3.177-188) describes Haridāsa Ṭhākura's confirmation of the effect of chanting the holy name of the Lord.

keha bale — 'nāma haite haya pāpa-kṣaya'keha bale — 'nāma haite jīvera mokṣa haya'

Some say that by chanting the holy name of the Lord one is freed from all the reactions of sinful life, and others say that by chanting the holy name of the Lord one attains liberation from material bondage.

haridāsa kahena, — "nāmera ei dui phala nayanāmera phale kṛṣṇa-pade prema upajaya

Haridāsa Ṭhākura, however, said that the desired result of chanting the holy name of the Lord is not that one is liberated from material bondage or freed from the reactions of sinful life. 

The actual result of chanting the holy name of the Lord is that one awakens his dormant Kṛṣṇa consciousness, his loving service to the Lord.

ānuṣańgika phala nāmera — 'mukti', 'pāpa-nāśa'tāhāra dṛṣṭānta yaiche sūryera prakāśa

Haridāsa Ṭhākura said that liberation and freedom from the reactions of sinful activities are only by-products of chanting the holy name of the Lord. 

If one chants the holy name of the Lord purely, he attains the platform of loving service to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. 

In this regard Haridāsa Ṭhākura gave an example comparing the power of the holy name to sunshine.

ei ślokera artha kara paṇḍitera gaṇa"sabe kahe, — 'tumi kaha artha-vivaraṇa'

He placed a verse before all the learned scholars present, but the learned scholars asked him to state the purport of the verse.

haridāsa kahena, — "yaiche sūryera udayaudaya nā haite ārambhe tamera haya kṣaya

Haridāsa Ṭhākura said that as the sun begins to rise, it dissipates the darkness of night, even before the sunshine is visible.

caura-preta-rākṣasādira bhaya haya nāśaudaya haile dharma-karma-ādi parakāśa

Before the sunrise even takes place, the light of dawn destroys the fear of the dangers of the night, such as disturbances by thieves, ghosts and Rākṣasas, and when the sunshine actually appears, one engages in his duties.

aiche nāmodayārambhe pāpa-ādira kṣayaudaya kaile kṛṣṇa-pade haya premodaya

Similarly, even before one's chanting of the holy name is pure, one is freed from all sinful reactions, and when he chants purely he becomes a lover of Kṛṣṇa.

'mukti' tuccha-phala haya nāmābhāsa haiteye mukti bhakta nā laya, se kṛṣṇa cāhe dite"

A devotee never accepts mukti, even if Kṛṣṇa offers it. Mukti, freedom from all sinful reactions, is obtained even by nāmābhāsa, or a glimpse of the light of the holy name before its full light is perfectly visible.

The nāmābhāsa stage is between that of nāma-aparādha, or chanting of the holy name with offenses, and pure chanting. 

There are three stages in chanting the holy name of the Lord. In the first stage, one commits ten kinds of offenses while chanting.

In the next stage, nāmābhāsa, the offenses have almost stopped, and one is coming to the platform of pure chanting. 

In the third stage, when one chants the Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra without offenses, his dormant love for Kṛṣṇa immediately awakens. This is the perfection.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24. Text 21

The Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is situated in everyone's heart as the Supersoul, sells Himself to His devotees such as Nārada Muni. 

In other words, the Lord gives pure love to such devotees and gives Himself to those who love Him purely. 

Great, self-realized mystic yogīs such as the four Kumāras also derive great transcendental bliss from realizing the Supersoul within themselves.

Purport: 

The Lord became Bali Mahārāja's doorkeeper not because of his giving everything to the Lord, but because of his exalted position as a lover of the Lord.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24. Text 22

The Supreme Personality of Godhead did not award His mercy to Bali Mahārāja by giving him material happiness and opulence, for these make one forget loving service to the Lord. 

The result of material opulence is that one can no longer absorb his mind in the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Purport:

There are two kinds of opulence. One, which results from one's karma, is material, whereas the other is spiritual. 

A surrendered soul who fully depends upon the Supreme Personality of Godhead does not want material opulence for sense gratification.

Therefore when a pure devotee is seen to possess exalted material opulence, it is not due to his karma. Rather, it is due to his bhakti. 

In other words, he is in that position because the Supreme Lord wants him to execute service to Him very easily and opulently.

The special mercy of the Lord for the neophyte devotee is that he becomes materially poor. This is the Lord's mercy because if a neophyte devotee becomes materially opulent, he forgets the service of the Lord. 

However, if an advanced devotee is favored by the Lord with opulence, it is not material opulence but a spiritual opportunity.

Material opulence offered to the demigods causes forgetfulness of the Lord, but opulence was given to Bali Mahārāja for continuing service to the Lord, which was free from any touch of māyā.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24. Text 23

When the Supreme Personality of Godhead could see no other means of taking everything away from Bali Mahārāja, He adopted the trick of begging from him and took away all the three worlds. 

Thus only his body was left, but the Lord was still not satisfied.

He arrested Bali Mahārāja, bound him with the ropes of Varuṇa and threw him in a cave in a mountain. Nevertheless, although all his property was taken and he was thrown into a cave, Bali Mahārāja was such a great devotee that he spoke as follows.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24. Text 24

Alas, how pitiable it is for Indra, the King of heaven, that although he is very learned and powerful and although he chose Bṛhaspati as his prime minister to instruct him, he is completely ignorant concerning spiritual advancement. 

Bṛhaspati is also unintelligent because he did not properly instruct his disciple Indra. 

Lord Vāmanadeva was standing at Indra's door, but King Indra, instead of begging Him for an opportunity to render transcendental loving service, engaged Him in asking me for alms to gain the three worlds for his sense gratification.

Sovereignty over the three worlds is very insignificant because whatever material opulence one may possess lasts only for an age of Manu, which is but a tiny fraction of endless time.

Purport:

Bali Mahārāja was so powerful that he fought with Indra and took possession of the three worlds. Indra was certainly very advanced in knowledge, but instead of asking Vāmanadeva for engagement in His service, he used the Lord to beg for material possessions that would lie finished at the end of one age of Manu.

An age of Manu, which is the duration of Manu's life, is calculated to last seventy-two yugas. One yuga consists of 4,300,000 years, and therefore the duration of Manu's life is 309,600,000 years. 

The demigods possess their material opulence only until the end of the life of Manu. Time is insurmountable. The time one is allotted, even if it be millions of years, is quickly gone.

The demigods own their material possessions only within the limits of time. Therefore Bali Mahārāja lamented that although Indra was very learned, he did not know how to use his intelligence properly, for instead of asking Vāmanadeva to allow him to engage in His service, Indra used Him to beg Bali Mahārāja for material wealth.

Although Indra was learned and his prime minister, Bṛhaspati, was also learned, neither of them begged to be able to render loving service to Lord Vāmanadeva. Therefore Bali Mahārāja lamented for Indra.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.Text 25

Bali Mahārāja said: My grandfather Prahlāda Mahārāja is the only person who understood his own self-interest. 

Upon the death of Prahlāda's father, Hiraṇyakaśipu, Lord Nṛsiḿhadeva wanted to offer Prahlāda his father's kingdom and even wanted to grant him liberation from material bondage, but Prahlāda accepted neither.

Liberation and material opulence, he thought, are obstacles to devotional service, and therefore such gifts from the Supreme Personality of Godhead are not His actual mercy. 

Consequently, instead of accepting the results of karma and jñāna, Prahlāda Mahārāja simply begged the Lord for engagement in the service of His servant.

Purport: 

Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu has instructed that an unalloyed devotee should consider himself a servant of the servant of the servant of the Supreme Lord (gopī-bhartuḥ pāda-kamalayor dāsa-dāsānudāsaḥ). 

In Vaiṣṇava philosophy, one should not even become a direct servant. Prahlāda Mahārāja was offered all the blessings of an opulent position in the material world and even the liberation of merging into Brahman, but he refused all this.

He simply wanted to engage in the service of the servant of the servant of the Lord. Therefore Bali Mahārāja said that because his grandfather Prahlāda Mahārāja had rejected the blessings of the Supreme Personality of Godhead in terms of material opulence and liberation from material bondage, he truly understood his self-interest.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24. Text 26

Bali Mahārāja said: Persons like us, who are still attached to material enjoyment, who are contaminated by the modes of material nature and who lack the mercy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, cannot follow the supreme path of Prahlāda Mahārāja, the exalted devotee of the Lord.

Purport: 

It is said that for spiritual realization one must follow great personalities like Lord Brahmā, Devarṣi Nārada, Lord Śiva and Prahlāda Mahārāja. 

The path of bhakti is not at all difficult if we follow in the footsteps of previous ācāryas and authorities, but those who are too materially contaminated by the modes of material nature cannot follow them.

Although Bali Mahārāja was actually following the path of his grandfather, because of his great humility he thought that he was not. It is characteristic of advanced Vaiṣṇavas following the principles of bhakti that they think themselves ordinary human beings. 

This is not an artificial exhibition of humility; a Vaiṣṇava sincerely thinks this way and therefore never admits his exalted position.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24. Text 27

Śukadeva Gosvāmī continued: My dear King, how shall I glorify the character of Bali Mahārāja? The Supreme Personality of Godhead, the master of the three worlds, who is most compassionate to His own devotee, stands with club in hand at Bali Mahārāja's door.

When Rāvaṇa, the powerful demon, came to gain victory over Bali Mahārāja, Vāmanadeva kicked him a distance of eighty thousand miles with His big toe. 

I shall explain the character and activities of Bali Mahārāja later [in the Eighth Canto of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam].

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24. Text 28

Beneath the planet known as Sutala is another planet, called Talātala, which is ruled by the Dānava demon named Maya. 

Maya is known as the ācārya [master] of all the māyāvīs, who can invoke the powers of sorcery.

For the benefit of the three worlds, Lord Śiva, who is known as Tripurāri, once set fire to the three kingdoms of Maya, but later, being pleased with him, he returned his kingdom. 

Since that time, Maya Dānava has been protected by Lord Śiva, and therefore he falsely thinks that he need not fear the Sudarśana cakra of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24. Text 29

The planetary system below Talātala is known as Mahātala. It is the abode of many-hooded snakes, descendants of Kadrū, who are always very angry. 

The great snakes who are prominent are Kuhaka, Takṣaka, Kāliya and Suṣeṇa. 

The snakes in Mahātala are always disturbed by fear of Garuḍa, the carrier of Lord Viṣṇu, but although they are full of anxiety, some of them nevertheless sport with their wives, children, friends and relatives.

Purport:

It is stated here that the snakes who live in the planetary system known as Mahātala are very powerful and have many hoods. 

They live with their wives and children and consider themselves very happy, although they are always full of anxiety because of Garuḍa, who comes there to destroy them. 

This is the way of material life. Even if one lives in the most abominable condition, he still thinks himself happy with his wife, children, friends and relatives.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24. Text 30

Beneath Mahātala is the planetary system known as Rasātala, which is the abode of the demoniac sons of Diti and Danu. 

They are called Paṇis, Nivāta-kavacas, Kāleyas and Hiraṇya-puravāsīs [those living in Hiraṇya-pura]. They are all enemies of the demigods, and they reside in holes like snakes.

From birth they are extremely powerful and cruel, and although they are proud of their strength, they are always defeated by the Sudarśana cakra of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who rules all the planetary systems. 

When a female messenger from Indra named Saramā chants a particular curse, the serpentine demons of Mahātala become very afraid of Indra.

Purport:

It is said that there was a great fight between these serpentine demons and Indra, the King of heaven. When the defeated demons met the female messenger Saramā, who was chanting a mantra, they became afraid, and therefore they are living in the planet called Rasātala.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24. Text 31

Beneath Rasātala is another planetary system, known as Pātāla or Nāgaloka, where there are many demoniac serpents, the masters of Nāgaloka, such as -

Śańkha, Kulika, Mahāśańkha, Śveta, Dhanañjaya, Dhṛtarāṣṭra, Śańkhacūḍa, Kambala, Aśvatara and Devadatta. The chief among them is Vāsuki.

They are all extremely angry, and they have many, many hoods — some snakes five hoods, some seven, some ten, others a hundred and others a thousand. 

These hoods are bedecked with valuable gems, and the light emanating from the gems illuminates the entire planetary system of bila-svarga.

Thus end the Bhaktivedanta purports of the Fifth Canto, Twenty-fourth Chapter of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, entitled "The Subterranean Heavenly Planets."

Comments regarding the controversy about the Moons distance from earth and clearing it up with proper facts.

Sadaputa prabhu ISKCON's Vedic Cosmologist PhD scientist, explains the Moons distance from earth in a 1988 Srimad-Bhagavatam Class after discovering the Surya-siddhanta in 1978 translated by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura Prabhupada. 

Apparently our Srila Prabhupada never had a copy of Surya-siddhanta in 1975 when translating the 5th Canto of Srimad-Bhagavatam 

Devotee -  "Using radar and lasers, scientists have recently obtained very accurate estimates of the earth-moon distance. 

This distance is about 238,000 miles. How do you reconcile this with Vedic calculations?"

Sadaputa - "According to the Surya-siddhanta, the distance from the earth globe to the moon is about 258,000 miles (see Section 1.e in Vedic Cosmography and Astronomy Book). This is in reasonable agreement with the modern value".

Devotee - "If the moon is 258,000 miles from the earth globe, then how can it be 100,000 yojanas above the sun? This seems hard to understand, even if the latter distance is relative to the plane of Bhu-mandala".

Sadaputa - "This question is answered in detail in our Vedic Cosmography and Astronomy Book Section 4.b, and the reader should specifically study Tables 8 and 9 in that section. Briefly, we propose the following:

"The heights of the planets from Bhu-mandala correspond to the maximum heights of the planets from the plane of the ecliptic in the visible solar system. 

This correspondence is approximate because the Fifth Canto gives the viewpoint of the demigods, whereas in modern astronomy and the jyotisha shastra the viewpoint is that of ordinary humans.

In summary, we propose that the Fifth Canto description of the universe is broadly compatible with what we see. 

The differences are due to the difference in viewpoint between human beings and demigods. 

Thus, from the higher-dimensional perspective of a demigod, Bhu-mandala should be directly visible, and the relative positions of Bhu-mandala, the sun, and the moon should appear as described in the Fifth Canto".

From Vedic Cosmography and Astronomy by Richard L. Thompson (Sadaputa dasa) at Amazon.com

Srila Prabhupada never had the Surya Siddhanta in 1975 to help with his translation, that Book was found in 1978 after his passing.

In Surya Siddhanta Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvat Thakur gives the distance to the Moon as 258,000 miles which is close to modern day calculations.

We have to understand that Prabhupada told us he did not know everything about Vedic Cosmology and that is why he sent Tamal Krishna Maharaj to South India to search out a Brahmin Vedic scholar to teach us. 

However, the Brahmin found turned out to be useless, that conversation is on our decoding Vedic Cosmology site.

Srila Prabhupada ordered Sadaputa prabhu to find the Surya Siddhanta to help us understand Vedic Cosmography better.




Deep inside each massive Brahmanda material universe coming from Maha Vishnu, is a secondary smaller universe where Garbhodakashayi Vishnu, Lord Brahma and many planetary systems are found.

Inside each massive Brahmanda universe is a secondary smaller universe where Garbhodakashayi Vishnu and Lord Brahma reside.

In the painting below, we see millions of Brahmanda massive single almost spherical shaped material universes that each house a secondary smaller universe.

All these Brahmanda universes are coming from the Bodily pores and breathing of Maha Vishnu (also known as Karanadaksayi Vishnu)

So it is clearly explained above that deep inside each Brahmanda is a secondary smaller universe where Garbhodakashayi Vishnu and Lord Brahma reside.

Garbhodakashayi Vishnu and Lord Brahma's smaller universe is totally surrounded and encased in their particular Brahmanda, like a seed is surrounded by the outer shell layers of a Pine cone.

Also the outer Brahmanda is made up of seven material layers and surrounds each inner material universe deep inside of them.

This is inner material universe is where Garbhodakashayi Vishnu and Brahma reside, along with the many planetary systems.

In other words, Garbhodakashayi Vishnu and Brahma's inner smaller universe is encased in and surrounded by the outer massive Brahmanda universe that is made up of these 7 material layers.

These 7 material levels of material elements that make up the Brahmanda, are collectively 44 quadrillion 444 Trillion, 444 billion miles in diameter. 

However if the measurement is taken from the outer edge of the smaller inner material universe where Garbhodakashayi Vishnu and Brahma are, then the "full diameter" of the outer Brahmanda spherical universe is double that figure, which is 88 quadrillan, 888 trillion, 888 billion miles in diameter.

The inner material universes, that are found very deep within their Brahmanda, are very small in comparison to the outer massive Brahmanda surrounding it.

Some are just a mere 4 billion miles in diameter, like our single inner material universe according to the 5th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam.

https://gauragopala.blogspot.com/2021/02/deep-inside-each-massive-brahmanda.html?m=1







Monday, February 8, 2021

How to correctly honour Srimati Tulsi devi Maharani.

Explaining Srimati Tulsi devi and how to honour her.

Srila Prabhupada - "Tulasi leaf is very, very dear to Visnu. All Visnu-tattva Deities require profusely Tulasi leaves. 

Lord Visnu likes garland of Tulasi leaves. 

Tulasi leaves mixed with sandalwood pulp and placed on the lotus feet of the Lord, is the topmost worship. 

But we must be very careful that Tulasi leaves cannot be placed on the feet of anyone else except Lord Visnu and His different forms. 

Tulasi leaves cannot be placed even on the lotus feet of Radharani or on the lotus feet of the Spiritual Master. 

Tulasi leaf is entirely reserved for being placed on the lotus feet of Krsna. 

We can place, however, Tulasi leaves in the hands of Radharani for being placed on the lotus feet of Krsna, as you have seen on the Govinda Album.

In honoring Tulasi leaf on prasadam, best to swallow whole when chewing Krishna prasad.

I am giving you herewith three mantras for Tulsi Devi as follows:

vrindaai tulasi devyai priyaai kesavasya cavisnubhaktiprade devi satyavatyai namo namah

This is offering obeisances, bowing down (pancanga pranam). And when collecting leaves from the plant, the following mantra should be chanted:

tulasya mrta janmasi sada tvam kesavapriyakesavarthi cinomi tvam barada bhava sobhine

So there are three mantras, one for bowing down, one for circumambulating, and one for collecting the leaves. 

The collecting of leaves should be done once in the morning for worshiping and for putting on the plates of foodstuff to be offered. 

On each bowl or plate there should be at least one leaf. 

So you follow and practice these Tulasi affairs and you try to distribute your experience to all the other centers, that will be a new chapter in the history of Krsna Consciousness Movement. (Letter to Govinda dasi April 7th 1970 Los Angeles, California USA)

Some have asked if we can take seeds from a fruit, or the seeds from a Tulsi Manjari, which have already been offered to Lord Krsna, then plant those seeds and then again offer the fruit grown on that tree?

I don't think the sastra has gone to this extent in analyzing this sort of issue.

I do know that Hari Bhakti Vilasa says that one can touch bhoga with a tulasi twig if one has no tulasi leaves to put on it. 

And one can do this over and over again. Just wash the twig in between use. But then we are not offering the full trig just touching the bhoga with it.

Probably people do plant seeds that they have gotten from prasadam tulasi and then later use the leaves for offering to Krsna. After all the leaves are different from the seeds. 

Although the seeds were offered the plant grows leaves and more seeds which have not been offered. So it's an interesting question but I think this level of question isn't answered. 

For example we offer water to Krsna, that same water will eventually end up in the sea (we drink it, urinate it out, it gets absorbed in the earth, flows to the sea) is then evaporate by the sun and come back down as rain and comes back to us again, and again we can offer it. 

Ultimately everything comes from the Lord and is being offered back to Him although it is a part of Him. 

Even we are parts of Him. I think the devotion is more important than taking these issues to the nth degree.





Sunday, February 7, 2021

We understand from Vedic scripture that God (Visnu) lives within the atom too.

Krsna as His expansion Visnu/Narayana (Visnu-tattva) accompany the individual jiva-soul (marginal living entity) in the material world and also lives within every atom in the temporary decaying material creation that is 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky.

The other 3/4 of the Spiritual Sky is the perpetual "active" realm of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana where Visnu and Krsna have their eternal pastimes.

Life is EVERYWHERE which in Sanskrit is called "Sarva-gata." 

ln the mundane material creation, both "active" (in a material bodily vessel) and "inactive" (dormant in the atom or in the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman) the jiva-souls are found.

Tamal Krsna - "Srila Prabhupada, someone asked a question the other day about the atom which I couldn’t give the answer to. His question is that if we say that within the atom the living entity, the jiva-soul, is present, and life symptoms means six symptoms of birth, growth...."

Srila Prabhupada - "That’s all right. Their life symptoms has not yet developed but they are there."

Jayadvaita - "Potential."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes."

Tamal Krsna - "His question was sort of a dual question. At what time, or what? Just like at the time of disintegration of this body, does the living entity (jiva-soul) leave this material body when it disintegrates? So does the atomic body also disintegrate when the living entity (jiva-soul) leaves it and moves to a higher body?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Atomic body? Atomic body means material body. Unless you are free from this material body, the atomic body will go on with you. That means unless you are mukta, the atomic body will go on. Mind, intelligence, ego — they are also atomic, finer (subtle) atomic body."

Tamal Krsna - "But within each atom the living entity (jiva-soul) is present?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, God (Visnu) is present also; therefore living entity (jiva-soul) is present."

Tamal Krsna - "So the living entity (jiva-soul) is present within the atom just as I am present within this material body. When I leave this body, my body breaks apart?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, you leave this body, then enter another body."

Tamal Krsna - "Right."

Srila Prabhupada - "By nature’s law."

Tamal Krsna - "And when I leave this body, the body breaks apart?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Eh?"

Tamal Krsna - "When I leave this body, the body is....."

Srila Prabhupada - "The body is already atomic combination."

Tamal Krsna - "Yes."

Srila Prabhupada - "So it remains atomic combination. You leave the body."

Tamal Krsna - "Yes, it remains."

Srila Prabhupada - "You leave the house. That does not mean the house is finished."

Tamal Krsna - "Right, I can understand that."

Hamsaduta - "He’s asking that if the jiva-soul leaves the atomic particle, then does the particle break apart, isn’t it?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, no. You have not left atomic particle."

Tamal Krsna - "No, but you were saying that within the atom there’s also a living entity (jiva-soul). So when that living entity leaves the atomic particle does the particle break apart? Or doesn’t it? I mean what?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Just try to understand. From the sastra, you understand that andantara-stham God lives within the atom."

Tamal Krsna - "Yes."

Srila Prabhupada - "And when God (Visnu) is there, the living entity (jiva-soul) is also there. This much you try to understand. Because God (Visnu) and living entity (jiva-soul), they remain together, as two friends. God (Visnu) is trying to save this fallen friend. That is the information from Upanisad. So when God (Visnu) is there, the living entity (jiva-soul) is also there." (Morning Walk, April 4, 1975, Mayapur)








Saturday, February 6, 2021

You ALWAYS have wonderful Krsna in your heart who is stands with you as your dear best friend eternally. No envious fool out there can EVER take that away from you!

Remember, in the face of arrogent bullies, fault finders, those who threaten violence and even so called devotees who try to break your spirit and bring you down to make you feel insignificant and useless, you ALWAYS have wonderful Krsna in your heart who ALWAYS stands with you as your very dear friend.

No fool can EVER take Krsna or Prabhupada away from you.

As Prabhupada taught us long ago, when dogs bark, you do not bark with them, you ignore them and keep moving forward.

Even if you have made mistakes and have had fall downs, Krsna WILL always help you as long as you genuinely ask for help.

Krsna tells us this in Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 9 Text 30-

"Even if one commits the most abominable actions, if he is engaged in devotional service, he is to be considered saintly because he is properly situated."









Friday, February 5, 2021

Srila Prabhupāda - ''Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love".

"Real love", devotion, surrender and genuine selfless service can only exist when "two" are involved in a "two-way" trade off based on a reciprocal relationship of loving exchanges.

"Love" between the devotee, Guru and Krishna can NEVER exist in a selfish, inconsiderate, "one-way" forceful impersonal atmosphere.

This means loving expressions and exchanges can NEVER exist in a dictatorial forceful relationship of just being told what to do, without having personal contributions and offerings by the individual jiva souls in Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha.

This is because loving devotion, obedience, trust and loyalty between Krishna and His devotee is NEVER a "one-way" street in the Spiritual Planets, it is ALWAYS a "two-way" change.

"Real love" can only exist when there are "two" involved in a trade off based on a reciprocal relationship founded on loving exchanges and reciprocation.

A "Loving relationship" with Krishna is NEVER founded on a demanding forceful relationship based on being mindlessly obedient and always told what to do and just obey without personal offerings of inputs and intelligent inquiry.

This kind of "impersonal surrender" is dangerous because the personality and character of the individual jiva soul's natural marginal attributes, are suppressed due to denying the jiva soul's their natural ability of self expression, independent thinking and personal contributions in the Spiritual World or the Kingdom of God (Goloka-Vrindavana and Vaikuntha)

"Free will" in its full potential ONLY fully exists in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana and is greatly restricted in the material creation to the point it almost does not exist (only existing in a limited minor way in the Human species)

It certainly does NOT exist in the lower species of life numbering 8 million species.

In regards to the expression of love Prabhupada says this -

Srila Prabhupāda - ''Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. When these things are transacted, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things MUST be there''. (Evening Darsana, August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Those in leadership who claim you do not even need to think for your self claiming they will do the thinking for you, are bogus dictatorial impersonalists and bullies and MUST be rejected.

"Real love" and genuine selfless service is ALWAYS based on a "two-way" exchange of feelings that means individual contributions, personal inputs that can only be genuine when the jiva soul can express their own independent individuality of free will. 

Srila Prabhupada - "Krishna does not want to become a lover by force, from the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

Surrendering to Krishna and His pure devotees is NOT impersonal, it does NOT mean giving up your intelligence, free will, individuality and the awareness of being an independent unique contributing person you are eternally.

The Spiritual Worlds are NOT an impersonal domineering mindless totalitarian place for the individual jiva souls with their relationship with Krishna. 

No, the Kingdom of God is not like that, there is ALWAYS loving exchanges of feelings and service based on reciprocation between Krishna and His devotees.

Without "free will" and the ability to reciprocate, the jiva soul or marginal living entity, is no better than dead stone that can never receive or give love.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you MUST have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

The Spiritual world's of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are personal Kingdoms based on loving exchanges and cooperation between Krishna and His devotees, it is NEVER a "one way" demanding forceful relationship.       

Ultimately we are all Krishna's servant and very dear friends however, that does not mean we have to give up our "free will" and "individuality" to be Krishna's friend and servant.

The conclusion is, of course "free will" DOES exists in Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha as part and parcel of the constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (individual jiva soul).

And yes, Krishna ALWAYS allows "free will" because if He didn't, then loving exchanges can never exist.

The fact is if Krishna denied the jiva soul's their "free will", then they can NEVER experience love or know what love is because ultimately love is a "two way" exchange of feelings, it is NEVER a "one way" street.

Those emotions expressed in a "one way" mood without having any exchange between two, is NOT love at all, it is selfishness, and is really impersonalism.

Therefore without "free will", without being allowed to contribute personal offerings and have independent choices, even though fully dependent on Krishna, the jiva soul will NEVER experience wonderful loving exchanges based on reciprocation and personal unique individual contributions to Krishna.

“Free will” or the ability to “choose” is eternally part and parcel of the jiva souls (marginal living entities) natural constitution and ALWAYS exists without beginning or end in ALL the Spiritual Planets.

Therefore freedom or "free will" means the jiva soul can choose to serve Krishna, or even reject Him if they want, it is their choice. 

Srila Prabhupada – “So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada – “So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Ultimately each individual soul is a unique person who can choose for themselves to voluntarily serve Krishna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, or ignore Him. 

As Prabhupada explains, Krishna never forces you to surrender to Him, never forces you to love Him, that must be voluntary.

Srila Prabhupada – “Krishna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. (Melbourne June 25, 1974)

The amazing thing is, Krishna ALWAYS serves His pure devotees far more than they can EVER serve Him!!