Tuesday, November 2, 2021

The origins of the Hare Krsna Movement and the Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Sampradaya.

The spelling "Krishna" used in the Western countries and Eastern European countries including Ukraine and Russia, originates from the Sanskrit word Kṛṣṇa.

This word is primarily an adjective meaning black, dark, dark blue or the all attractive.

The waning moon is called Krsna Paksha, relating to the adjective meaning "darkening."

The name Krsna is also interpreted sometimes as "all-attractive."

Based on His name, Krsna is often depicted in Deities as black or blue-skinned.

How is Krsna seen in His Kingdom of Goloka Vrindavana? Is Krsna known there as the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes? 

Srila Prabhupada - "One who worships the Lord by following in the footsteps of the inhabitants of Vrajabhūmi attains Him in the transcendental planet of Vraja, where He is known as the son of Mahārāja Nanda." (CC Madhya 9.131)

Srila Prabhupada - "The inhabitants of Vrajabhūmi, or Goloka Vṛndāvana, know Kṛṣṇa as the son of Mahārāja Nanda. They do NOT accept Him as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, as people in general do. The Lord is the Supreme maintainer of everyone and the chief personality among all personalities. In Vrajabhūmi Kṛṣṇa is certainly the central point of love, but no one knows Him there as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Rather, a person may know Him as a friend, son, lover or master. In any case, the center is Kṛṣṇa. The inhabitants of Vrajabhūmi are related to the Lord in servitude, friendship, parental love and conjugal love. A person engaged in devotional service may accept any one of these transcendental relationships, which are known as mellows. When such a person reaches the perfectional stage, he returns home, back to Kṛṣṇa, in his pure spiritual identity." (CC Madhya 9.131 Purport)

Krsna is also known by various other names, epithets, and titles that reflect his many associations and attributes. Among the most common names are Mohan the enchanter; Govinda the chief herdsman, Keev the prankster and Gopala the Protector of the Go, which means Soul or the cows.

Some names for Krsna hold regional importance; Lord Jagannatha, found in the Puri Jaganath temple, is a popular expansion of Kṛṣṇa in Odisha state and famous over all nearby regions of Eastern India. Krsna may also be referred to as Vāsudeva-Krsna, Murlidhar, and Chakradhar.

The honorary title "Sri" (also spelled "Shri") is often used before the name of Krsna.

Gaudiya Vaisnavism was originally also known as Bengali Vaisnavism. Sri Caitanya Vaisnavism and the Gaudiya Sampradaya are a Vaisnava Vedic religious tradition inspired by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu (1486–1534) in Bengal  India.

Gaudiya refers to the Gaura or Gauḍa region of Bengal, with Vaisnavism meaning the worship of Visnu. Specifically, it is part of Krsnaism—Krsna-centric Vaisnavite traditions.

Its theological basis is primarily that of the Bhagavad Gita As It Is and Bhagavata Purana (known within the tradition as the Srimad Bhagavatam), as handed down by early followers of Caitanya, such as 

Sanatana Goswami, 

Rupa Goswami, 

Jiva Goswami, 

Gopala Bhatta Goswami and others.

The focus of Gaudiya Vaisnavism is the devotional worship (known as bhakti yoga) of Radha and Krsna, and their many divine Visnu/Narayana incarnations as the supreme forms of God, Svayam Bhagavan. Most popularly, this worship takes the form of singing Krsna's holy names, such as

Hare Krsna Hare Krsna
Krsna Krsna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama
Rama Rama Hare Hare.

Known as the Maha Mantra, and also as Kirtan or  Sankirtan (Congregational chanting of Hare Krsna). That includes Street chanting in all Cities and Towns around the world.

This movement is known the Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Sampradaya, referring to its belief in the succession of spiritual masters (gurus) believed to originate from Krsna who first instructed Brahma.

Gaudiya Vaisnavism is the spiritual and philosophical foundations of the world wide "International Society for Krishna Consciousness," or the Hare Krishna movement (ISKCON) known in this way around the world.

Prabhupada spelt Krsna as Krishna in the English language for pronunciation and sound to make it easier for his western disciples.

According to Gaudiya Vaisnava philosophy, consciousness is not a product of matter, but is instead a symptom of the jiva-soul. All living beings (known as marginal living entities or individual jiva-souls), includes animals and trees whose material bodily forms cover the jiva-soul within when in the material creation.

In the material world the eternal individual jiva-souls are distinct from their physical temporary body because the nature of the jiva-soul is eternal, immutable, and indestructible without birth or death, meaning the jiva-souls were never created nor will they ever cease to be unlike the material bodily vessel they are in as a passenger.

The individual jiva-soul do not die when the material body dies, but is transmigrated into another new material bodily vessel and takes birth in a new body out of 8 million 400 thousand species of life existing in the material world.

Those individual jiva-souls who choose to enter the material creation by leaving the spiritual world, are captivated by the illusory nature (Maya) once in the unlimited material worlds (known as Brahmanda universes) where they are repeatedly reborn again and again among the various species of life according to their desires and the laws of karma. This is consistent with the concept of samsara found within Vedic texts.

Being released from the process of samsara (known as moksha) is achievable through a variety of spiritual practices, most notablely for this age of Kali-yuga, as taught by Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu and His Divine Grace A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada the congregational chanting of Hare Krsna.

Within Gaudiya Vaisnavism, it is bhakti in its purest state (or pure love of God) which is given as the ultimate aim, rather than liberation from the cycle of rebirth.

Gaudiya Vaishnav tradition asserts that in the current yuga, which is Kali-yuga, singing and chanting the various sacred names of God (Krsna) known as Sankirtan is sufficient for spiritual liberation as taught by Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

One of the defining aspects of Gaudiya Vaisnavism is that Sri Krsna is worshiped specifically as the original source of all Avataric incarnations of God (Visnu/Narayana Forms known as Visnu-tattva).

This is based on quotations from the Bhagavata Purana (Srimad Bhagavatam), such as krsnāstu bhagavan svayam, literally "Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes."

Inconceivable oneness and difference.

A particularly distinct part of the Gaudiya Vaisnava philosophy espoused by Caitanya Mahaprabhu is the concept of Achintya Bheda Abheda Tattva, which translates to "inconceivable oneness and difference" in the context of the jiva-soul's relationship with Krsna, and also Krsna's relationship with his other energies (i.e. the material creation).

In quality, the jiva-soul is described as being identical to God, but in terms of quantity, individual jiva-souls are said to be infinitesimal in comparison to the unlimited Supreme Being Krsna.

The exact nature of this relationship (being simultaneously one and different with Krsna) is inconceivable to the human mind but can be experienced through the process of Bhakti yoga that includes the chanting of Hare Krsna.

This philosophy serves as a meeting of two opposing schools of Vedanta philosophy, pure monism (God and the jiva-soul as one entity) and pure dualism (God and the jiva-soul as absolutely separate).

This philosophy largely recapitulates the concepts of qualified nondualism practiced by the other Vedantic schools but emphasizes the figure of Krsna over Narayana and holy sites in and around Bengal over sites in Tamil Nadu.

In practice, Gaudiya Vaisnava philosophy has much more in common with the dualistic schools especially closely following theological traditions established by Madhvacharya's Dvaita Vedanta.

The practical process of devotional life is described as bhakti or bhakti-yoga.

The two main elements of the bhakti-yoga process are vaidhi bhakti, which is devotional service through practice of rules and regulations (sadhana) and raganuga bhakti, which is taken as a higher stage of more spontaneous devotional service based on a selfless desire to please one's chosen Ishta-deva of Krsna or his associated expansions and Visnu/Narayana Avatars.

Practicing vaidhi-bhakti with a view to cultivate prema creates eligibility for raganuga-sadhana.

Both vaidhi and raganuga bhakti are based on the chanting or singing of Krsna's names.

Attainment of the raganuga stage means that rules of lifestyle are no longer important and that emotions or any material activities for Krsna should not be repressed.

Vaidhi-bhakti's purpose is to elevate the devotee to raganuga; something which generally takes a very long time.

Within His Siksastaka prayers, Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu compares the process of bhakti-yoga to that of cleansing a dirty place of dust, wherein our consciousness is the object in need of purification.

This purification takes place through the chanting of the Hare Krsna maha-mantra, sung by practitioners and devotees on a daily basis for many hours each day (including chanting a minimum of 16 rounds of 108 beads every day)

Famously within the tradition, one of Caitanya Mahaprabhu's close associates, Haridasa Thakur, is reported to have chanted 300,000 holy names of God each day!

Diet and lifestyle.

Gaudiya Vaisnavas follow a lacto vegetarian (or stricter) diet, abstaining from all types of animal flesh, including fish and eggs.

Onions, garlic and red Lentils are also avoided as they are believed to promote a more tamasic form of consciousness in the eater when taken in large quantities.

Gaudiya Vaisnavas also avoid the intake of caffeine, as they believe it is addictive and an intoxicant.

Many Gaudiya Vaisnavas will live for at least some time in their life within the Temple as monks for training, this is necessary to be trained up in the philosophy of Krsna Consciousness.

A parampara (lineage) denotes a succession of teachers and disciples within some sampradaya (school, tradition). In accordance with the tradition, Gaudiya Vaisnavism belongs to the Brahma Madhva Gaudiya Sampradaya, one of the four "orthodox" Vaisnavite schools.

Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu is a disciple of Isvara Puri who was a disciple of Madhavendra Puri who was a disciple of Lakshmipati Tirtha who was a disciple of Vyasatirtha (1469-1539) of Madhvacharya's Sampradaya.

As said above, the Gaudiya Vaisnava's tradition is called the "Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Sampradaya", which originates from Krsna who imparted it to Brahma and has Madhvacharya and Caitanya Mahaprabhu as the acharya-successors.

The following list of 32 Spiritual Masters are presented by Srila Prabhupada in his Introduction to Bhagavad-gita As It Is.

"Evam parampara-praptam imam rajarsayo viduh (Bhagavad-gita 4.2).

This Bhagavad-gita As It Is, by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, is received through this disciplic succession-

1. Krsna
2. Brahma
3. Narada
4. Vyasa
5. Madhva
6. Padmanabha 
7. Nrhari
8. Madhava
9. Aksobhya
10. Jaya Tirtha 
11. Jnanasindhu 
12. Dayanidhi
13. Vidyanidhi
14. Rajendra
15. Jayadharma 
16. Purusottama
17. Brahmanya Tirtha
18. Vyasa Tirtha
19. Laksmipati
20. Madhavendra Puri
21. Isvara Puri, (Nityananda, Advaita)
22. Lord Caitanya
23. Rupa, (Svarupa, Sanatana)
24. Raghunatha, Jiva
25. Krsnadasa
26. Narottama
27. Visvanatha
28. (Baladeva) Jagannatha
29. Bhaktivinoda
30. Gaurakisora
31. Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati
32. His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.

Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's direct disciples.

Srila Prabhupāda - "The Nectar of Devotion is a summary study of Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu, which was written in Sanskrit by Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī Prabhupāda. He was the chief of the six Gosvāmīs, who were the direct disciples of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu. When he first met Lord Caitanya, Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī Prabhupāda was engaged as a minister in the Muhammadan government of Bengal. He and his brother Sanātana were then named Dabira Khāsa and Sākara Mallika respectively, and they held responsible posts as ministers of Nawab Hussain Shah.

At that time, five hundred years ago, the Hindu society was very rigid, and if a member of the brāhmaṇa caste accepted the service of a Muhammadan ruler he was at once rejected from brāhmaṇa society. That was the position of the two brothers, Dabira Khāsa and Sākara Mallika. They belonged to the highly situated sārasvata-brāhmaṇa community, but they were ostracized due to their acceptance of ministerial posts in the government of Hussain Shah.

It is the grace of Lord Caitanya that He accepted these two exalted personalities as His disciples and raised them to the position of gosvāmīs, the highest position of brahminical culture. Similarly, Lord Caitanya accepted Haridāsa Ṭhākura as His disciple, although Haridāsa happened to be born of a Muhammadan family, and Lord Caitanya later on made him the ācārya of the chanting of the holy name of the Lord:

Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare." (Nectar of Devotion Preface)

Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu, 18 February 1486 – 14 June 1534 is the combination of Radha and Krsna in Gaudiya Vaisnavism.

Lord Caitanya is Krsna himself in the mood of Srimati Radharani who appeared in the form of His own devotee in order to teach the people of this world the process of Bhakti and how to attain the perfection of life.

Caitanya Mahaprabhu was a disciple of Isvara Puri who was a disciple of Madhavendra Puri who was a disciple of Lakshmipati Tirtha who was a disciple of Vyasatirtha(1469-1539) of Madhvacharya's Sampradaya.

Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu is very merciful to the fallen jiva-souls however, the most merciful and forgiving manifestation of Godhead is actually Lord Nityananda Prabhu (Balarama in Krsna lila) who is always with Lord Caitanya.

Lord Caitanya is the proponent for the Vaisnava school of Bhakti yoga, meaning loving devotion to Krsna (God), based on Bhagavata Purana (Srimad Bhagavatam) and Bhagavad Gita As It Is.

Of various expansions of Krsna, Lord Caitanya is revered as the combination of Radha and Krsna's loving devotional exchanges with each other, popularised with the ecstatic chanting of the Hare Krsna Maha Mantra, and also composed the Siksastakam (eight devotional prayers) in Sanskrit.

Sri Siksastakam prayers by Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu-

1 - Glory to the Sri Krsna Sankirtana, which cleanses the heart of all the dust accumulated for years and extinguishes the fire of conditional life, of repeated birth and death. This sankirtana movement is the prime benediction for humanity at large because it spreads the rays of the benediction moon. It is the life of all transcendental knowledge. It increases the ocean of transcendental bliss, and it enables us to fully taste the nectar for which we are always anxious.

2 - O my Lord, Your holy name alone can render all benediction to living beings, and thus You have hundreds and millions of names, like Krsna and Govinda. In these transcendental names You have invested all Your transcendental energies. There are not even hard and fast rules for chanting these names. O my Lord, out of kindness You enable us to easily approach You by Your holy names, but I am so unfortunate that I have no attraction for them.

3 - One should chant the holy name of the Lord in a humble state of mind, thinking oneself lower than the straw in the street; one should be more tolerant than a tree, devoid of all sense of false prestige, and should be ready to offer all respect to others. In such a state of mind one can chant the holy name of the Lord constantly.

4 - O almighty Lord, I have no desire to accumulate wealth, nor do I desire beautiful women nor do I want any number of followers. I only want Your causeless devotional service, birth after birth.

5 - O son of Maharaja Nanda (Krsna), I am Your eternal servitor, yet somehow or other I have fallen into the ocean of birth and death. Please pick me up from this ocean of death and place me as one of the atoms at Your lotus feet.

6 - O my Lord, when will my eyes be decorated with tears of love flowing constantly when I chant Your holy name? When will my voice choke up, and when will the hairs of my body stand on end at the recitation of Your name?

7 - O Govinda! Feeling Your separations I am considering a moment to be like twelve years or more. Tears are flowing from my eyes like torrents of rain, and I am feeling all vacant in the world in Your absence.

8 - I know no one but Krsna as my Lord, and He shall remain so even if He handles me roughly by His embrace or makes me brokenhearted by not being present before me. He is completely free to do anything and everything, for He is always my worshipful Lord, unconditionally.

All Glories to Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu!

As said above, Gaudiya Vaisnavas revere Him as a Krsna with the mood and complexion of His source of inspiration Radha.

Over the three centuries following the disappearance of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the Gaudiya Vaisnava tradition evolved into the form in which we largely find it today in contemporary India. 

In the early years of the tradition, the followers of Nityananda Prabhu, Advaita Acharya and other companions of Caitanya Mahaprabhu educated and initiated people, each in their own villages across Bengal.

Caitanya Mahaprabhu requested a select few among his followers, who later came to be known as the Six Gosvamis of Vrindavan, to systematically present his theology of bhakti in their writings. 

This theology emphasized the devotee's relationship to the Divine Couple, Radha and Krsna, and looked to Caitanya as the embodiment of both Radha and Krsna the Supreme Personalities of Godhead. 

The six are 

1 - Rupa Goswami, 

2 - Sanatana Goswami, 

3 - Gopala Bhatta Goswami,

4 - Raghunatha Bhatta Goswami,

5 - Raghunatha dasa Goswami,

6 - Jiva Goswami. 

In the second generation of the tradition, Narottama, Srinivasa and Shyamananda, three students of Jiva Goswami, the youngest among the six Goswamis, were instrumental in spreading the theology across Bengal and Orissa.


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The festival of Kheturi (approx 1574)

This festival has been observed for 447 years. The festival marks the death anniversary of the renowned Vaisnava saint Sri Narottam Das Thakur (on the fifth day of Bengali month of Kartik). 

The festival goes back to Narottom Das Thakur, known for his devotional verses on Radha and Krsna. The son of King Krsnananda Dutta and Narayani Devi of the then Goura Pargana in Rajsahi, he renounced his royal claims at a very young age to immerse himself in spiritual leanings in Vrindavan. 

Narottam was the initiator of the Kheturi Festival, celebrating 'Goura Purnima,' the birth of Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu. 

17th–18th century

During the 17th–18th centuries, there was a period of general decline in the movement's strength and popularity, its "lethargic state", characterized by decreased public preaching and the rise of persons following and promoting tantric teachings and practices.

These groups are called apasampradayas by the followers of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

In the 17th century, Visvanath Chakravarti Thakur held great merit in clarifying core doctrinal issues over the practice of raganuga-bhakti through works such as Raga-vartma-chandrika. 

His student Baladeva Vidyabhushan wrote a famous commentary on the Vedanta-sutra called Govinda Bhashya.

The 18th century saw a number of luminaries headed by Siddha Jayakrsna Das Babaji of Kamyavan and Siddha Krsnadas Babaji of Govardhan. 

The latter, a widely renowned teacher of the mode of internal worship (raga-bhajan) practiced in the tradition, is largely responsible for the current form of devotional practice embraced by some of the traditions based in Vrindavan.

From the very beginning of Caitanya's bhakti movement in Bengal, Haridasa Thakur and other Muslim by birth were the participants. 

This openness received a boost from Bhaktivinoda Thakur's broad-minded vision in the late 19th century and was institutionalized by Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur in his Gaudiya Matha in the 20th century.

This period was followed by a renaissance, which began at the start of the 20th century both in India and the West. 

One pioneer of the Gaudiya Vaisnavism in the West was Premananda Bharati (1858–1914) who, in 1902, founded the short-lived "Krsna Samaj" society in New York City and built a temple in Los Angeles. His followers formed several organizations including the now defunct Order of Living Service Universal Truth Temple.

These changes happened largely in India due to the efforts of Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur, who also held the position of a deputy magistrate with the British government.

Bhaktivinoda Thakur's son grew up to be both an eminent scholar and a highly influential Vaisnava preacher, and was later known as Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur.

In 1918, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati founded Gaudiya Math in India, and later sixty-four Gaudiya Matha monasteries in India, Burma and Europe.

In 1933, the first European preaching center was established in London (London Glouster House, Cornwall Garden, W7 South Kensington) under the name "Gaudiya Mission Society of London".

Soon after Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati's passing (1 January 1937 at 62), a dispute began, which divided the original Gaudiya Math mission into two administrative bodies still in existence today.

In a settlement, they divided the sixty-four Gaudiya Math centers into two groups: the Sri Caitanya Math headed by Bhakti Vilasa Tirtha Maharaj and the Gaudiya Mission headed by Ananta Vasudev (Bhakti Prasad Puri Maharaj).

Many of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati's disciples disagreed with the spirit of these two factions and/or started their own missions to expand their guru's mission.

In the 1960s, his disciple A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada went to the West to spread Gaudiya-Vaisnavism and establish the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON), an organization that continues growing strongly today with millions of followers around the world.

Although sharing a common set of core beliefs, there are a number of philosophical differences between Gaudiya Vaisnavism and other Vaisnava Sampradaya schools.

1 - For example in Gaudiya Vaisnavism Krsna is seen as the original Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes and source of all Visnu/Narayana Forms of God.

This is based on the verse 1.3.28 of the Bhagavata Purana or Srimad Bhagavatam (krsnas tu bhagavan svayam) and other scriptures like the Brahma Samhita.

This belief is shared by the Nimbarka and Vallabha sampradayas, but not by the Ramanuja and Madhva schools, who sadly view Krsna as an avatar of Visnu.

2 - In Gaudiya Vaisnavism Krsna's consort, Radha is similarly viewed as the source of all other Saktis, including Lakshmi and Sita.

3 - Caitanya Mahaprabhu is the most recent Avatar of Krsna to descend in this current Kali-yuga.

4 - Some other sampradayas also sadly view Lord Caitanya as a devotee of Krsna only, and not the combination of Radha and Krsna.

Also Lord Caitanya did like Himself outwardly being called Krsna and would, in fact, avoid being addressed as such.

In this regard His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami states, 

When Lord Caitanya was addressed as Lord Krsna, He denied it. Indeed, He sometimes placed His hands over His ears, protesting that one should not be addressed as the Supreme Lord.

However at times Caitanya would exhibit a different mood with His close disciples and would welcome worship of himself as the Supreme Lord Kṛṣṇa, and at a few occasions, is said to have exhibited his Universal form.

Rupa Goswami, when first meeting with Caitanya, composed the following verse showing his belief in Caitanya Mahaprabhu's divinity:

"O most munificent incarnation! You are Krsna Himself appearing as Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu. You have assumed the golden colour of Srimati Radharani, and You are widely distributing pure love of Krsna. We offer our respectful obeisances unto You."

Lord Caitanya's followers point at verses throughout the Puranic literatures as evidence to support this claim. Evidences such as the Krsna-varnam verse Srimad Bhagavatam 11.5.32 have many interpretations by scholars, including Sridhara Svami who is accepted as authority by Mahaprabhu Himself.

Gaudiya Vaisnava theology is prominently expounded by Jiva Goswami in his Sat-sandarbhas, six elaborate treatises on various aspects of God.

Other prominent Gaudiya Vaisnava theologians are his uncles, Rupa Gosvami author of Sri Bhakti rasamrta sindhu, Sanatana Gosvami author of Hari bhakti vilasa, Visvanatha Chakravarti author of Sri Camatkara candrika and Baladeva Vidyabhushana author of Govinda Bhashya a commentary on Vedanta Sutra.

Historical perspective.

Historically within Vedanta teachings there are two conflicting philosophies regarding the relationship between living beings (jiva-soul or atma) and God (Krsna) (Ishvara, Brahman or Bhagavan). 

Advaita schools assert the monistic view that the individual jiva-soul and Kṛṣṇa are one and the same, whereas Dvaita schools give the dualistic argument that the individual jiva-soul and Kṛṣṇa are eternally separate.

The philosophy of Achintya-bheda-abheda-Tattva includes elements of both viewpoints. 

The individual living jiva-soul is intrinsically linked with the Supreme Lord Kṛṣṇa, and yet at the same time is not the same as Kṛṣṇa. Each individual jiva-soul has their own unique personality separate from Krsna's Personality. The exact nature of this relationship is inconceivable to the human mind. 

The individual jiva-soul is considered to be part and parcel of the Supreme Lord Kṛṣṇa. Same in quality but not in quantity just like the relationship between the Sun-disc and the sun-rays. 

Krsna having all opulence in fullness, the jiva-soul however, having only a partial expression of His divine opulence. Krsna in this context is also compared to a fire and the jiva-souls as sparks coming off of the flame.

The theological tenet of achintya-bheda-abheda tattva reconciles the mystery that Krsna is simultaneously "one with and different from His creation." 

In this sense Vaisnava theology is panentheistic as in "no way" does it deny the separate existence of God (Krsna) in His own Personal form. 

However, at the same time, creation (or what is termed in Vaisnava theology as the 'cosmic or material manifestation') is never separated from Kṛṣṇa. He always exercises supreme control over his material creation through His expansions of Maha-Visnu, Garbhodakashayi Visnu and Paramatma (Supersoul).

Srila Prabhupada - "One who knows God knows that the impersonal conception and personal conception are simultaneously present in everything and that there is no contradiction. Therefore Lord Caitanya established His sublime doctrine: acintya bheda-and-abheda-tattva—simultaneous oneness and difference." (BG, Ch 7 text 8 Purport (1983 edition)

The analogy often used as an explanation in this context is the relationship between the Sun-disc and the Sunshine. 

For example, both the Sun-disc and sunshine are part of the same reality, but there is a great difference between having a beam of sunshine in your room, and being in close proximity to the sun itself. Qualitatively the Sun-disc and the Sunshine are not different, but as quantities they are very different. 

This analogy is applied to the living beings and God - the jiva-soul being of a similar quality to the Supreme being, but not sharing the qualities to an infinite extent, as would the Personality of Godhead himself. Thus, there is a difference between the individual jiva-souls (the marginal potency) and the Supreme Lord. 

And that is the jiva-souls ALWAYS have their unique quality of free will which is having an independent personality separate from Krsna's Personality that allows them to voluntarily make personal contributions in their relationship with Kṛṣṇa making it a "two-way" exchange of loving emotions.

Absolute control refers to the command a puppet master has over his puppet's every actions that only denies self expression and individual contributions the jiva-souls can offer to enrich, enhance and add variety to the relationship with Visnu and Kṛṣṇa in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.**^^.


















Sunday, October 31, 2021

There is no difference between thinking of Srimati Radharani and Kṛṣṇa, and personally associating with Them.

Srila Prabhupada - "Radharani's mind, senses and body are steeped in love for Kṛṣṇa. She is Kṛṣṇa’s own energy, and She helps Him in His pastimes. Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is as fully spiritual as Kṛṣṇa. 

No one should consider Her to be material. She is definitely not like the conditioned souls, who have material bodies, gross and subtle, covered by material senses. 

She is all-spiritual, and both Her body and Her mind are of the same spiritual embodiment. 

Because Her body is spiritual, Her senses are also spiritual. Thus Her body, mind and senses fully shine in love of Kṛṣṇa. 

She is the personified hlādinī-śakti (the pleasure-giving energy of the Lord’s internal potency), and therefore She is the only source of enjoyment for Śrī Kṛṣṇa. 

Śrī Kṛṣṇa cannot enjoy anything that is internally different from Him.Therefore Rādhā and Śrī Kṛṣṇa are identical. 

The sandhinī portion of Śrī Kṛṣṇa’s internal potency has manifested the all-attractive form of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, and the same internal potency, in the hlādinī feature, has presented Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī, who is the attraction for the all-attractive. 

No one can match Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī in the transcendental pastimes of Śrī Kṛṣṇa." (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.71, Translation and Purport)

Caitanya Caritamrita Madhya 23.68, Translation - "The transcendental goddess Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the direct counterpart of Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa. She is the central figure for all the goddesses of fortune. She possesses all the attraction to attract the all-attractive Personality of Godhead. She is the primeval internal potency of the Lord."

Srila Prabhupada - "Kṛṣṇa and Rādhārāṇī are both transcendentally qualified, and both of Them attract one another. Yet in that transcendental attraction, Rādhārāṇī is greater than Kṛṣṇa, for the attractiveness of Rādhārāṇī is the transcendental taste in conjugal love. Similarly, there are transcendental tastes in servitude, friendship and other relationships with Kṛṣṇa." (Teachings of Lord Caitanya, Chapter 14, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "When Kṛṣṇa left Vṛndāvana for Mathurā, the gopīs became most dejected and spent the rest of their lives simply crying in separation from Kṛṣṇa. This means that in one sense they were never actually separated from Kṛṣṇa. There is no difference between thinking of Kṛṣṇa and associating with Him. 

Rather, vipralambha-sevā, thinking of Kṛṣṇa in separation, as Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu did, is far better than serving Kṛṣṇa directly. 

Thus of all the devotees who have developed unalloyed devotional love for Kṛṣṇa, the gopīs are most exalted, and out of all these exalted gopīs, Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the highest. 

No one can excel the devotional service of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī. 

Indeed, even Kṛṣṇa cannot understand the attitude of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī; therefore He took Her position and appeared as Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, just to understand Her transcendental feelings. 

In this way Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī gradually concludes that Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the most exalted devotee of Kṛṣṇa and that Her kuṇḍa (lake), Śrī Rādhā-kuṇḍa, is the most exalted place." (Nectar of Instruction 10, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "Of the many objects of favored delight and of all the lovable damsels of Vrajabhūmi, Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is certainly the most treasured object of Kṛṣṇa's love. And, in every respect, Her divine kuṇḍa is described by great sages as similarly dear to Him. 

Undoubtedly Rādhā-kuṇḍa is very rarely attained even by the great devotees; therefore it is even more difficult for ordinary devotees to attain. If one simply bathes once within those holy waters, one's pure love of Kṛṣṇa is fully aroused. 

Why is Rādhā-kuṇḍa so exalted? 

The lake is so exalted because it belongs to Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī, who is the most beloved object of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. Among all the gopīs, She is the most beloved. 

Similarly, Her lake, Śrī Rādhā-kuṇḍa, is also described by great sages as the lake that is as dear to Kṛṣṇa as Rādhā Herself. 

Indeed, Kṛṣṇa's love for Rādhā-kuṇḍa and Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the same in all respects. 

Rādhā-kuṇḍa is very rarely attained, even by great personalities fully engaged in devotional service, not to speak of ordinary devotees who are only engaged in the practice of vaidhī bhakti." (Nectar of Instruction 11, Translation and Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "Lord Caitanya exhibited the mode of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī when She was contacted from Dvārakā by Śrī Kṛṣṇa. Such transcendental love is not possible for any common man; therefore one should not imitate the highest perfectional stage exhibited by Caitanya Mahāprabhu. 

If, however, one desires to be in that association, he may follow in the footsteps of the gopīs. In the Padma Purāṇa it is stated that just as Rādhārāṇī is dear to Kṛṣṇa, similarly the kuṇḍa known as Rādhākuṇḍa is also very dear to Him. 

Rādhārāṇī is the only gopī who is dearer to Kṛṣṇa than all the other gopīs. 

In Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam Canto 10 Chapter 30 Text 28 it is also stated that Rādhārāṇī and the gopīs render the highest perfectional loving service to the Lord and that the Lord is so pleased with them that He does not wish to leave the company of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī." (Teachings of Lord Caitanya, Chapter 30) 

Srila Prabhupada - "As Kṛṣṇa is the highest emblem of spiritual perfection, so Rādhārāṇī is the highest emblem of that spiritual pleasure potency by which Kṛṣṇa is satisfied. Since Kṛṣṇa is unlimited, in order to satisfy Him Rādhārāṇī is also unlimited. Kṛṣṇa is satisfied just by seeing Rādhārāṇī, but Rādhārāṇī expands Herself in such a way that Kṛṣṇa desires to enjoy Her more. 

Because Kṛṣṇa was unable to estimate the pleasure potency of Rādhārāṇī, He decided to accept the role of Rādhārāṇī, and that combination is Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu." (Teachings of Lord Caitanya, Chapter 31)

Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 4.76, Translation - "Just as the fountainhead, Lord Kṛṣṇa, is the cause of all incarnations, so Śrī Rādhā is the cause of all these consorts."

Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.82, Translation - "Rādhā is the one who gives pleasure to Govinda, and She is also the enchantress of Govinda. She is the be-all and end-all of Govinda, and the crest jewel of all His consorts."

Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 4.83, Translation - "The transcendental goddess Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the direct counterpart of Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa. She is the central figure for all the goddesses of fortune. She possesses all the attractiveness to attract the all-attractive Personality of Godhead. She is the primeval internal potency of the Lord."

Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 4.96, Translation - "Śrī Rādhā is the full power, and Lord Kṛṣṇa is the possessor of full power. The two are not different, as evidenced by the revealed scriptures. The attitude of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the highest perfection of conjugal love."

Srila Prabhupada -"Lord Caitanya’s heart was full of the feelings of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī, and His appearance resembled Hers. 

Svarūpa Dāmodara has explained His attitude as rādhā-bhāva-mūrti, the attitude of Rādhārāṇī. One who engages in sense gratification on the material platform can hardly understand rādhā-bhāva, but one who is freed from the demands of sense gratification can understand it. 

Rādhā-bhāva must be understood from the Gosvāmīs, those who are actually controllers of the senses. 

From such authorized sources it is to be known that the attitude of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the highest perfection of conjugal love, which is the highest of the five transcendental mellows, and it is the complete perfection of love of Kṛṣṇa. In the loving affairs of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa, Rādhārāṇī is the āśraya feature and Kṛṣṇa the viṣaya." (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 4.106, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "Viṣaya and āśraya are two very significant words relating to the reciprocation between Kṛṣṇa and His devotee. The devotee is called the āśraya, and his beloved, Kṛṣṇa, is the viṣaya. Different ingredients are involved in the exchange of love between the āśraya and viṣaya, which are known as vibhāva, anubhāva, sāttvika and vyabhicārī. 

Vibhāva is divided into the two categories ālambana and uddīpana. Ālambana may be further divided into āśraya and viṣaya. In the loving affairs of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa, Rādhārāṇī is the āśraya feature and Kṛṣṇa the viṣaya. The transcendental consciousness of the Lord tells Him, 

'I am Kṛṣṇa, and I experience pleasure as the viṣaya. The pleasure enjoyed by Rādhārāṇī, the āśraya, is many times greater than the pleasure I feel.'

Therefore, to feel the pleasure of the āśraya category, Lord Kṛṣṇa appeared as Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu." (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 4.135, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "Among the gopīs, Śrīmatī Rādhikā is the foremost. She surpasses all in beauty, in good qualities, in good fortune and, above all, in love. Among all the gopīs, Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the most exalted. She is the most beautiful, the most qualified and, above all, the greatest lover of Kṛṣṇa." (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 4.214, Translation and Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "Rādhā is the beloved consort of Kṛṣṇa, and She is the wealth of His life. Without Her, the gopīs cannot give Him pleasure. Radharani is the chief damsel of Vraja in love with Govinda, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Śrī Kṛṣṇa." (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 4.218, Translation)

Srila Prabhupada - "The fact is that both Kṛṣṇa and Lord Caitanya are the original Personality of Godhead. No one should try to eliminate Lord Caitanya from Śrī Kṛṣṇa. In His form of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, He is the supreme enjoyer, and in His form of Lord Caitanya, He is the supreme enjoyed. 

No one can be more superexcellently attractive than Śrī Kṛṣṇa, and but for Śrī Kṛṣṇa, no one can enjoy the supreme form of devotion, Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī. But for Śrī Kṛṣṇa, all Viṣṇu forms are lacking this ability. This is explained in the description of Govinda in Caitanya-caritāmṛta. 

There it is said that Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the only personality who can infuse Śrī Kṛṣṇa with transcendental pleasure. Thus Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the chief damsel of Vraja in love with Govinda, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Śrī Kṛṣṇa." (Teachings of Lord Caitanya, Chapter 32)









Those who deny that Krsna's perpetual Kingdom is the real home of all jiva-souls, by foolishly attempting to build their home in the temporary material creation, are condemning themselves to the suffering cycle of repeated birth and death in the material creation.

The goal of this rare human life is to be trained up to get out of this material world and go back home, back to Goloka-Vrindavan, the eternal personal active Krsna Conscious Kingdom of God.

No one should try to seek out a permanent comfortable life in this temporary decaying material creation because it is not possible while in a perishable troublesome decaying material bodily vessel.

Our only desire should be to go Back home back to Godhead (and be with Krsna) and not attempt to build comfortable homes, cities and sky scrappers in this mundane existence or desire to go to the higher material heavely planets seeking out satisfaction and happiness. 

Such actions are not permanently possible in the temporary material creation.

We see how modern technology is only attempting to build the Kingdom of God without God (Krsna)

We should all learn from a very young age, we are the individual perpetual jiva-soul trapped within these temporary outer material bodily coverings, or containers that are always in a state of decline, decay and in constant need of maintenance and repair.

All material endevours for happiness will never solve the problems of 

birth, 

disease, 

old age, 

death.

That leads to constant changing of material bodily vessels that repeatedly experience the cycle of-

birth, 

youth, 

middle age, 

old age,

death.

The jiva-souls are eternal living PERSONS who have no beginning point, nor will they ever cease to be.

The jiva-souls are known as Krsna's “marginal energy.”

"Marginal" means "in-between" the influence of the spiritual energy and the influence of material energy.  

The marginal energy (jiva-souls) are individual living entities and is NOT some place in the Spiritual Sky where the jiva-souls originate from, no, the marginal potency or realm ARE the individual jiva-souls who have no origin and were NEVER created!

The word "marginal" simply means the jiva-souls are under the influence of either the spiritual energy, or the material energy.  

The marginal realm or potency is NOT a place somewhere in the Spiritual Sky, no, the marginal potency ARE the individual living entities or jiva-souls who are EVERYWHERE throughout the Spiritual Sky!

Many misunderstanding this fact.

There is no origin to Krsna's marginal energy (an unlimited number of individual jiva souls), who have existed as long as Krsna has existed. 

The marginal platform means the "jiva-souls" or spirit souls, who, as living spiritual individual beings, naturally belong to the supreme spiritual energy (non-material) with Krsna, are called "marginal living entities." 

The jiva-souls can choose to be influenced by either the spiritual energy, or the material energy eternally (that makes the marginal), explained as follows by Prabhupada.

Srila Prabhupada – “The jiva-souls are Krsna’s marginal energy. Marginal energy means the jiva-souls may be under the control of the spiritual energy, or they may be under the control of material energy. But when the jiva-souls are under the control of the material energy, that is their precarious condition, struggle for existence. And when they are under spiritual energy, that is their original position and life of freedom.” (Los Angeles, Nov 23, 1968)

Srila Prabhupada - "We (the jiva-souls) are marginal energy (jiva-souls) Marginal means sometimes internal, sometimes external. When we are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. Therefore, we are called marginal energy (jiva-souls); we can be either this way or that way. But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt." (Letter to Lilavati, Allston, Mass 25 April, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "The material energy, called as Maya, is also one of the multipotencies of the Lord, as much as we (the jiva-souls) are also marginal potency of the Lord. The living entities (jiva-souls) are described as superior energy than matter, when the superior energy is in contact with inferior energy, it becomes an incompatible situation. But when the supreme marginal potency (jiva-souls) are in contact with the spiritual potency, Hara, it becomes the happy, normal condition of the living entity." (The Happening Album, New York City, Dec 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "You are also energy; you are marginal energy (jiva-soul) Marginal energy means you (the jiva-souls) may be under the control of the spiritual energy or you may be under the control of material energy—your marginal position. But when you are under the control of the material energy, that is your precarious condition, struggle for existence. And when you are under spiritual energy, that is your life of freedom." (Intro BG As It Is, Los Angeles, Nov 23, 1968)

Therefore, being “generated” from the marginal plane does not mean the jiva-souls “originated” from some so called place in the Brahmajyoti.

First of all, being "marginal" means the jiva-souls have free will, or having the choice to be influenced by the spiritual energy (the jiva-souls nature position and full potential) or influenced by the material energy (unnatural conditioned state) 

As said above, the real meaning of "marginal" means the jiva-souls can choose to be influenced by either the spiritual energy, or the material energy based on their free will.

There is no origin to the individual jiva-souls, they are eternally parts and parcel of Krsna and just as old as Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada – “The jiva-souls are Krsna's marginal energy. Marginal energy means we can live either in this external energy or in the internal energy, in between. So at the present moment we are living in the external energy. But this external energy is also Kṛṣṇa's energies, God's energy. It is not different from Him. But the external energy means we are captivated by the external energy. But the external energy is not permanent. The internal energy is permanent. The spiritual world is permanent, and the jiva-souls are also permanent as Bhagavad Gita As It Is chapter 2 text 20 (1983 edition) reveals.” (Lecture on BG 9.4 -Melb, Australia April 23, 1976)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 text 20 explains the jiva-souls have existed for “infinity”

This means, just like Krsna, they are beginning less and endless, and were NEVER created-

Bhagavad Gita - “For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain.” (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 text 12 also confirms the jiva-souls were NEVER created.

This is because they have no origin and have existed for infinity like Krsna has, as Krsna explains-

Bhagavad Gita - “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG 2.12)

The jiva-souls and Kṛṣṇa have always existed and both were never created.

Srila Prabhupada – “There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?” (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 7/9/1970)

The material bodily vessels covering the jiva-souls are temporary therefore, the jiva-souls are continually forced to take a new material body when the one they are in ceases to operate due to, decay, disease, accidents and old age. 

The purpose of this very rare human form is to use it to get out of this material world and not continue trying to build the kingdom of God without God.

That is not possible in the material universes that are constantly in a state of decay and decline.

Srila Prabhupada - "When the superior energy is in contact with inferior energy, it becomes an incompatible situation. But when the supreme marginal potency is in contact with the spiritual potency, Harā, it becomes the happy, normal condition of the living entity." (From the "Happening Record Album" New York City, USA 1966)












Tuesday, October 26, 2021

Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

Krsna expands Himself as all the unlimited Visnu/Narayana forms of Godhead who have their own Vaikuntha Planets in the perpetual Spiritual World.

And expands also as Visnu who manage the material universes known as Maha Visnu, Garbhodakashayi Visnu and Paramatma.

All these Visnu expansions come from this amazing little boy Krsna.

Our beautiful Krsna is so wonderful.

So always remember the golden rule- 

"Always think of Krsna and NEVER forget Him"

Always avoid (block) those who are envious, those who only want see faults, and those masquerading as religious leaders.








Inquiry into Spiritual life in the material creation can ONLY begin when the jiva-souls have attained the rare human form of life.

Free will certainly does NOT exist in lower species of material life, where the trapped jiva-souls in material bodily vessels, are always forced to act under the demands of eating, sleeping, mating and defending.

However, free will is partially expressed in a very limited way ONLY in the human form of life in the material creation, where the trapped jiva-souls can inquire about where they came from, why are they here, and where are they going.

This ability to inquire is restarting their Spiritual life again.

In other words, this inquiry into Spiritual life can ONLY begin when the jiva-souls have attained the human form of life.

The human body CAN provide the intelligence and miniscule free will for the trapped jiva-souls to seek out a Spiritual Master, who can then guide the trapped jiva-souls back home, back to Godhead, back to Krsna.

One can only enter Spiritual life under the guidance of a bonafide Spiritual Master like Srila Prabhupada seen in photos below.

The jiva-soul's full potential of expressing their free will, can only fully exists in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.

Srila Prabhupada tells us, without "free will" and the ability to reciprocate with voluntary loving exchanges in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana, the jiva-soul is no better than dead stone that can NEVER receive and give love in a genuine heart felt exchange.

In the Spiritual world, there is ALWAYS deep loving exchanges of emotions and reciprocation going on between Krsna and his dear friends, family members and inhabitants of Goloka Vrindavana, such reciprocation is the foundation of Spiritual life or devotional service.

It is NEVER a "one-way" street of just obey, obey obey, and do what you are told to do without contributing to one's relationship with Krsna. 

Such denial only stagnates one's ability to contribute their own individual input, personal offerings and unique abilities. 

No two jiva-souls are the same in the Spiritual Sky.

Every jiva-soul is "unique" with their own personality, individuality, independence and ''special'' relationship with Krsna.

Gurus and Spiritual leaders who preach that you do not have to think for yourself in Gods Kingdom are bogus dictatorial impersonalists and bullies. 

They are really promoting spiritual suicide (denying the individual self as a contributing independent person with free will).

Real love or service is ALWAYS based on a "two-way street" that includes individual contributions and personal offerings that can only exist when the jiva-soul can express their own independent individuality and unique free will. 

Srila Prabhupāda - ''Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange. When these things are transacted, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things MUST be there''. (Evening Darsana, August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Having "free will" is the eternal constitutional make up of EVERY "marginal living entity", and is the foundation for ALL jiva-soul's relationship with Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

The jiva-souls in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana therefore, are forever expanding their sense of individuality with personal offerings and contributions to Krsna based on selfless loving reciprocation with the Lord, it is NEVER a one-sided relations with the Krsna, there is ALWAYS reciprocation in a "two-way exchange" that allows "loving service" to exist, expand and florish.

Real love or Bhakti is reciprocal, as said above, it is NEVER a "one-way street". 

That kind of mindless forced surrender to Krsna takes away one's sense of self, individuality and personal contributions.

Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krsna give us free will if He knew we would miss use it in the material world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

This is important to understand because each individual jiva-soul has their own independent personality, sense of self and unique characteristics that THEY only have, that is part and parcel of each individual marginal living entities make up as the independent eternal "person" they are eternally.

Srila Prabhupada - “Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. "So God does not interfere with your little independence”. (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)

Devotee – "But In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?”

Srila Prabhupada - “That means YOU lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C)

The one way street slave/master relationship between individuals DOES NOT exists in Goloka Vrindavana or Vaikuntha.

How boring would Goloka-Vrindavan be if every jiva-soul was exactly the the same in God's Kingdom of Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana, like a programmed robot on an assembly line.

That version of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana is IMPERSONALISM! 

This means there are no heart felt loving exchanges shared between two, between Krsna and the jiva-souls. 

Impersonalism means "one". 

Personalism means "two"

Therefore this means "love" can only begin to exist when their are "two" involved.

The "impersonal" version of "surrender", prominent in the 1970s with many nonsense religious cults and sangas, are just "mindless" concocted dangerous version of religion. 

Those cult followers are encouraged to extinguish their personal identity, contributions, individual personality, free will and sense of self in the name of "surrender", and just do what you are told to do and think in the name of "surrendering" to their bogus version of God. 

Both "Personal" sangas (even some Vaisnava groups) and "impersonal" sangas cults are guilty of this bogus version of what "surrender" means.

No, love between the devotee, Guru and Krsna is NEVER impersonal and selfish like explained above, that is expressed in "one-way" impersonal forceful demands of obedience.

Srila Prabhupada - "In Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C)

Impersonalism DENIES loving reciprocation and individual contributions between Krsna and all his followers.

This forceful bogus impersonal version of surrender denies one's individual contributions and self expression.

In the spiritual Planets of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, the jiva-souls NEVER deny who they REALLY are as an idependant unique person with their own personality seperate from Krsna's Personality. 

Nowhere in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are there attempts by the jiva-souls to extinguish their free will, identity and individuality in the name of surrender, thinking that giving up all these unique qualities, one is "surrendering" to Krsna and becoming selfless.

No! This kind of surrender is impersonalism.

Being a "unique person" that the jiva-soul is eternally, and ALWAYS having  their"free will" that is always expressed fully in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana, allows the jiva-souls to give the very best in their service of the Lord. 

This is what selflessness and surrender really means, where the jiva-souls express their own unique qualities in the service of Lord Krsna, making them His very dear friends He is ALWAYS reciprocating with eternally.

The jiva-souls are "surrendered" persons in this way and are servants of the servants (friends) of Krsna.

This is who we all are as our real Svarupa eternal spiritual bodily identity in Goloka Vrindavana, or on Visnu's Vaikuntha Planets.*