There are so many of Prabhupada's Books at 67 I have very little time to even look at any other sanga's Books.
Even the many version of "Jaiva Dharma" I did read that claimed souls originate from the tatastha region are all simply incorrect.
This is because tatastha s’akti is NOT a place in the Cosmos where souls come from, tatastha s’akti is actually another name for the marginal living entity or jiva tattva that means the jiva has the ability to choose this side of being with Krishna or that side being in the material creation, no-one comes from there because it is NOT a place, it is another name description for the jiva.
There is no such things as new souls as Bhagavad Gita Chapter 2 Text 20 explains. The jivas have always existed without beginning or end as individual souls.
''For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain''.BG C 2 Text 20
Those who claim souls are ''generated from a clear sheet of consciousness'' are preaching impersonalism because this philosophy claims there was a time we did not exist as a conscious individual living entity.
Srila Prabhupada - "There is no “ NEW” soul. “New'’ and “old'’ are due to this material body. But the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth how there can be new soul'' Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970 .
Srila Prabhupada – "Those who are in the brahman effulgence they are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness". Los Angeles 13 June, 1970
Tatastha s’akti simply means we have the ability to choose this side of being with Krishna or that side being in the material creation, no-one comes from there because it is NOT a place, it is another name description for the jiva.
No jiva-tattva comes from tatastha-s'akti because the jiva is ALREADY tatastha-s'akti eternally.
So let's be clear, tatastha-s'akti is NOT some place in the cosmos; it is simply a description of the jiva-tattva's (marginal living entity) nature pertaining to free will and the ability to choose. Tatastha is us, the jivatma
Srila Prabhupada explains a deeper meaning - ''Taṭastha means they are sometimes manifested and they are not sometimes manifested. So this material world is the taṭastha ''characteristics'', and the spiritual world is the personal ''characteristics''.
So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (material ''characteristics'' conditioning), or, I mean to say, taṭastha means marginal, marginal ''characteristics'' to the permanent ''characteristics'' (The jiva is always the marginal energy as individual living entities in both the material world and Vaikuntha, but in Vaikuntha the marginal living entity has no ''material characteristics'' hence the permanent characteristics are Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana). That is called spiritual elevation.
We should NOT remain in the marginal state (What Prabhupada means here is with material characteristics. It is not that in Vaikuntha the marginal living entity stops being marginal, no, the jiva is always marginal but perfected in Vaikuntha and called here by Prabhupada ''the permanent state''), but we should go to the permanent state’’. End of quote Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.354-358 -- New York, December 28, 1966
Those who claim souls are ''generated from a clear sheet of consciousness'' are preaching impersonalism because this philosophy claims there was a time we did not exist as a conscious individual living entity.
ReplyDeleteSrila Prabhupada - "There is no “ NEW” soul. “New'’ and “old'’ are due to this material body. But the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth how there can be new soul'' Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970 .
Srila Prabhupada – "Those who are in the brahman effulgence they are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness". Los Angeles 13 June, 1970