Thursday, July 15, 2021

Finally taṭastha-sakti (a name among many for the marginal living entity) is correctly understood.

Taṭastha-sakti is another name among many, describing a particular condition of the marginal living entity (jiva-soul).

The marginal plane is the category the individual jiva-souls are part of, it is inbetween the Spiritual energy (Internal potency) and the material energy (external potency)

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna has three main energies

1 - external energy

2 - internal energy,

3 - marginal energy.

The external energy is this material expansion, manifestation.

Similarly, there is internal energy, the spiritual world manifestation, and in between them there is another energy called marginal energy, taṭastha, that we are, we living entities. 

We are His marginal energy.

Marginal energy means we can live either in this external energy or in the internal energy, in between.

So at the present moment we are living in the external energy. But this external energy is also Kṛṣṇa's energies, God's energy. It is not different from Him.

But the external energy means we are captivated by the external energy. But the external energy is not permanent.

The internal energy is permanent. The spiritual world is permanent, and we are also permanent, jīva-bhūta. Na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre (BG 2.20). (Lecture on BG 9.4 -- Melbourne, April 23, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - "Regarding your question about our relationship with Srimati Radharani, She is the internal energy, we are marginal energy. 

Marginal means sometimes internal, sometimes external. 

When we are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. 

Therefore, we are called marginal energy; we can be either this way or that way. 

But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt. (Letter to Lilavati, Allston, Mass 25 April, 1969)

What is the meaning of tatastha-sakti?

Srila Prabhupada - "So this material world is the taṭastha (conditioned characteristics), and the Spiritual Worlds are the "personal" (Vaikuntha characteristics). So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (conditioned characteristics) and to enter the permanent characteristics (Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana). 

That is called spiritual elevation". (Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.354-358 — New York, December 28, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "Because the individual soul is apt to fall down sometimes under the clutches of māyā, it is called Taṭastha-śakti. 

Just like in the seaside the shore, the beach, sometimes you see it is covered by water and sometimes it is land; similarly, when we are covered by māyā, that is our jīva-bhūta stage, and when there is no more covering, that is brahma-bhūta stage. 

When we are Kṛṣṇa conscious, then we are brahma-bhūta (SB 4.30.20), and when we are not Kṛṣṇa conscious, we are materially conscious, that is māyā". (Lecture on BG 7.4-5 -- Bombay, March 30, 1971)

It is said by some religious groups that the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are generated from a clear (impersonal) state of consciousness called tatastha-sakti (which is also the marginal plane), but this should be more clearly understood.

Tatastha-sakti is a terminology that means the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) who are in a category in-between the internal potency and external potency of the Lord, are in the material conditioned state.

Krsna's marginal living entities are a universal collective of individual jiva-souls that are part and parcel of Krsna whose full potential is living in the internal potency or energy (spiritual realm) of Kṛṣṇa.  

When the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are covered by the external energy (matter) only then are they called tatastha-sakti. 

Each jiva-soul has 78.125% of Krsna's 100% qualities.

This 78.125% means each individual jiva-soul or marginal living entity can possess 50 of Krsna's 64 attributes.

Srila Prabhupada - "The spiritual world is expansion of Kṛṣṇa's internal energy, and this material world is Kṛṣṇa's expansion of external energy, and we living entities, we are expansion of marginal energy.

So three energies. Krsna has got multi-energies. All the multi-energies grouped in three headings:

1 - antaraṅga-śakti,

2 - bahiraṅga-śakti,

3 - taṭastha-śakti.

1 - Antaraṅga-śakti means internal energy,

2 - bahiraṅga śakti means external energy,

3 - taṭastha-śakti means these living entities.

We are śakti; we are energy. (jiva-tattva) We are not the energetic (Visnu-tattva)

The Māyāvādī philosopher says that because the energies are not outside Brahman, therefore they're all the same. This is monism.

Our Vaiṣṇava philosophy is that energy (is) simultaneously one and different.

When you perceive heat, we understand, "Oh, there is fire." But that does not mean that because I am getting some heat, I am on the fire

Try to understand this philosophy.

Therefore here it is said vijānataḥ - "one who knows."

So their ekatvam, Māyāvāda philosophy's ekatvam, oneness, and our ekatvam of oneness—a little different.

They say that the energy's false; the Brahman is real. Brahmā satyaṁ jagan mithyā.

We say that because Brahman is truth, therefore His energy's also truth. That is the difference between Vaiṣṇava philosophy and Māyāvāda philosophy. We cannot say that energy is false. Energy is temporary; this external energy is temporary, not false.

Although, suppose we have got some trouble. There are so many kinds of troubles pertaining to the body, mind, external affairs. But that trouble comes and goes. But when the trouble is there, it is true. We feel the consequence. We cannot say it is false.

The Māyāvādī philosophers say that it is false. But when he's troubled, why he's so much disturbed? So that is not false. Therefore this very word is used: vijānataḥ, "one who knows."

Perfect knowledge must be there, vijānataḥ. When one is actual knower of the things, tatra ko mohaḥ, then there is no illusion.

Illusion is for him who does not know things. But one who knows, there is no illusion.

Tatra ko mohaḥ kaḥ śoka. No lamentation. When you are perfectly in conviction that there is nothing except Kṛṣṇa, and Kṛṣṇa's energy, the same, then there is no moha—moha means illusion—and śoka (Lecture on Sri Isopanishad Los Angeles, May 10, 1970)

The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are therefore ALWAYS found throughout the entire Spiritual Sky in four different realms-

1 - From associating with Krsna in Goloka-Vrindavana as a friend and four other different ways.

2 - Serving Visnu who is known as the Supreme God on the Vaikuntha Planets.

3 - Being embodied (covered) in a temporary material bodily vessel in the material creation.

4 - And attempting to cease or extinguish one's existence by merging into the dormant inactive impersonal Brahmajyoti.

Entering the Impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman to Vaiṣṇavas, is considered Spiritual suicide.

However, such merging is also only temporary even though the jiva-soul can stay in that dormant inactive condition for a very, very very long time.

These dormant (inactive) jiva-souls eventually falls out of the impersonal Brahmajyoti because the nature of the jiva-soul is to be ALWAYS active and have a reciprocal personal relationship with Krsna in Goloka-Vrindavana, or with Visnu on the Vaikuntha Planets.

In fact, the jiva-souls can stay there hovering in the impersonal Brahmajyoti for so long that when they again awaken from their impersonal inactive slumber, they wrongly believe the impersonal Brahmajyoti is their origin.

They forget they fell to that dormant condition in the first place a long, long, long time ago that can equal quadrillions of life times of Lord Brahma who lives for 311 trillion and 40 billion human years.

Therefore the "jiva-souls" (marginal living entities) did NOT originate from some impersonal inactive place or plane some call a clear sheet of consciousness or tatastha-sakti because ORIGINALLY all jiva-souls were with Krsna.

However, at sometime a small minority of jiva-souls fell to the material creation from Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana, then again, after sometime in the material creation trapped in the cycle of repeated birth and death, fell further to the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman attempting to escape the frustration of repeated birth and death in the decaying material creation. 

The marginal plane is also called tatastha-sakti but that particular word is used more to describe the jiva-souls who are in the material creation and impersonal Brahmajyoti as Prabhupada explains.

Srila Prabhupada - "So this material world is the taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual world is the "personal" characteristics. So our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics and to enter the permanent characteristics (Vaikuntha). That is called spiritual elevation". (Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.354-358 — New York, December 28, 1966)

The term tatastha-sakti is generally not used to describe souls in the Spiritual world, as said above, it is used to describe those in the material worlds and the impersonal Brahmajyoti.

Tatastha-sakti is also known as the marginal plane or energy however, it is important to understand the marginal living entities in the Spiritual Worlds are NOT referred to as tatastha-sakti even though they are ALWAYS "marginal living entities".

The idea that the jiva-souls originate from some place called tatastha-sakti (marginal plane) is NOT technically correct because the "marginal living entities" are a collective of eternal jiva-souls without any beginning or origin point spread throughout the Spiritual Sky.

Therefore in the impersonal Brahmajyoti and material creation, the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are known as tatastha-sakti.

As said above, tatastha-sakti is a "conditioned" designation describing those jiva-souls in the impersonal Brahmajyoti and material creation, and NOT those jiva-souls (marginal living entities) who are in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana.

This is important to try and understand as the marginal living entity has many different names describing their position and condition, and tatastha-sakti is just one of those names.

The jiva-souls (marginal potency) were NOT created from a "clear (inactive) sheet of consciousness" or tatastha-sakti because they have ALWAYS existed everywhere (sarva-gatah means life is everywhere).

The jiva-souls may fall to an "inactive" dormant state in the impersonal Brahmajyoti as said above, but they certainly did NOT originate from there, nor did they originate from tatastha-sakti.

Even entering the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman is also only temporary relief for the jiva-souls who entered there to escape the suffering and pain of being embodied in the material creation.

Although they can stay in the impersonal Brahmajyoti for a very, very, very long time, so long a time that some foolishly believe it is where they originated from after emerging from there. The dormant inactive aspect of the Brahmajyoti is NOT the origin of the jiva-soul, it is actually a fallen condition.

The fact is, as emphasised, the individual jiva-souls are NOT literally generated from any origin including the impersonal Brahmajyoti 

As explained above, this is because they have ALWAYS existed as part and parcel of the "marginal plane of Krsna's energies who are individual jiva-souls spread throughout the entire Spiritual Sky (material and Spiritual Worlds).

The jiva-souls or marginal living entities (as individual persons) are throughout the Spiritual Sky that includes Vaikuntha, Goloka Vrindavana, the material creation and the dorment impersonal Brahmajyoti.

The marginal living entities are a unlimited number of individual PERSONS (jiva souls) who in their full potential are as follows-

sat,

chit,

ananda,

vigraha.

This means in English the individual jiva-souls are-

Eternity,

Knowledge,

Bliss,

Bodily form.

This ORIGINAL eternal form of the jiva-soul is a bodily form like Krsnas Prabhupada has said, two arms, two legs etc like Krsna has in Vṛndāvana.

All of Krsna's marginal so called 'sparks' and so called 'atoms (souls) in the effulgence that impersonalists claim are bodiless and dormant, are in that conditioned state because they are fallen and have forgotten their original two armed spiritual bodily form in Goloka Vrindavana.

Only in the conditioned fallen state can the marginal living entity (jiva-souls) merge into the impersonal Brahmajyoti.

As said above, the marginal living entities or jiva-souls are not called tatastha sakti in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana as Prabhupada has explained above.

Revatīnandana - "Srila Prabhupāda you very clearly explained to me once in a letter that if the spirit soul then goes into the brahmajyoti, he is considered still fallen. Still fallen. 

Does that means the whole brahmajyoti is composed of fallen souls?

You see my question? If I go there, I'm a jīva-soul, and I go to the brahmajyoti I'm still fallen".

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes".

Revatīnandana - "That means all jīva-souls there are also fallen souls?".

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes". (Room Conversation August 17, 1971, London)

Srila Prabhupada - ''Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. 

Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. (Letter to: Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)

Srila Prabhupada - ''When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness'' (Letter to: Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)

In the jiva-souls original state, they have the same bodily features like Krishna - sat-cit-ananda-vigraha.

The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities is a two arm human looking form.

Devotee – “Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?”

Srila Prabhupada – “Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs”.

Hari-sauri – “How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?”

Srila Prabhupada – “[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul”.

Hari-sauri - “They are covered in the spiritual world?”

Srila Prabhupada - “Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. 

Some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. 

If I want that, to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he become flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. 

That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. 

If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact". (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)

Ye yatha mam prapadyante tams tathaiva bhajamy aham [Bg. 4.11].

That is Krsna's all-powerfulness, spiritual life."

The English word "generated" can be misleading if not properly understood because that word can also mean a beginning point, or an origin point.

However, the jiva-souls have no origin or beginning point. 

This is because they have ALWAYS existed and were NEVER created as Bhagavad Gita teaches us. (BG 2.12)

The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) were always originally a bodily PERSON first, but sometime later, due to fall down from the Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana, they eventually entered the dormant impersonal Brahmajyoti, an inactive dormant almost dead condition of consciousness.  

They can also enter into the material atom in a dormant inactive consciousness state as Prabhupada explained to Tamal Krsna Maharaj that the jiva-soul and Visnu (Paramatma) are in every atom too.

Tamala Krsna - "Srila Prabhupada, someone asked a question the other day about the atom which I couldn’t give the answer to. His question is that if we say that within the atom the living entity, the jiva, is present, and life symptoms means six symptoms of birth, growth"

Srila Prabhupada - "That’s all right. Their life symptoms has not yet come. But there is".

Jayadvaita - "Potential".

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes".

Tamala Krsna - "His question was, it was sort of a dual question. At what time, or what…? Just like at the time of disintegration of this body, the living entity leaves this body and the body disintegrates, so does the atomic body also disintegrate when the living entity leaves it and moves to a higher body?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Atomic body? Atomic body means material body. Unless you are free from this material body, the atomic body will go on with you. That means unless you are mukta, the atomic body will go on. Mind, intelligence, ego — they are also atomic, finer atomic body (subtle body)".

Tamala Krsna - "But within each atom the living entity is present?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes. God is present; therefore living entity is present".

Tamala Krsna - "So the living entity is present within the atom just as I am present within this body. When I leave this body, my body breaks apart".

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, you leave this body, enter another body".

Tamala Krsna - "Right".

Srila Prabhupada - "By nature’s law".

Tamala Krsna - "And when I leave this body, the body breaks apart".

Srila Prabhupada - "Eh?"

Tamala Krsna - "When I leave this body, the body dis…"

Srila Prabhupada - "The body is already atomic combination".

Tamala Krsna - "Yes".

Srila Prabhupada - "So it remains atomic combination. You leave the body".

Tamala Krsna - "Yes. It remains…"

Srila Prabhupada - "You leave the house. That does not mean the house is finished".

Tamala Krsna - "Right, I can understand that".

Hamsaduta - "He’s asking that if the soul leaves the atomic particle, then does the particle break apart. Isn’t it?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, no. You have not left atomic particle".

Tamala Krsna - "No, but you, you’re… I think you were saying that within the atom there’s also a living entity. So when that living entity leaves the atomic particle does the particle break apart? Or doesn’t it? I mean what…?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Just try to understand. From the sastra, you understand that andantara-stham: “God lives within the atom.”

Tamala Krsna - "Yes".

Srila Prabhupada - "And when the God is there, living entity’s also there. This… This much you try to understand. Because God and living entity, they remain together, as two friends. God is trying to save this fallen friend. That is the information from Upanisad. So when God is there, the living entity is also there". 

Rupanuga - "So Paramatma and jiva-soul are always together?". 

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes". 

Pancadravida - "The jivas inside the atom, are they like impersonalists who are in the Brahman?" 

Srila Prabhupada - "That you consider. He has not developed his consciousness. Practically, it is like dead". (Morning Walk April 4 1975, Mayapur)

Srila Prabhupada – "There is no new soul. New and old are due to this material body, but the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?''. (Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970)

The use of this word "generated" really means the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are part and parcel of a category called the 'marginal energy, potency or plane', who are a collective of unlimited individual jiva-souls who are eternal, meaning they have ALWAYS existed in all the Spiritual Sky but are ONLY called tatastha-sakti while conditioned in the material creation and impersonal Brahmajyoti.

As said above, the jiva-souls were NEVER created from any origin (starting point) because there is NO origin of the jiva-souls, they have ALWAYS existed without beginning or end.

The jiva-souls are always known as the marginal living entities in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana AS their perpetual Svarupa bodies of their choice, and NOT known there as tatastha-sakti (even though they are always marginal living entities as said above)

Srila Prabhupada - "Because the individual soul is apt to fall down sometimes under the clutches of māyā, it is called taṭastha-śakti. 

When we are Kṛṣṇa conscious, then we are brahma-bhūta (SB 4.30.20), and when we are not Kṛṣṇa conscious, we are materially conscious, that is māyā". (Lecture on BG 7.4-5 -- Bombay, March 30, 1971)

Srila Prabhupada explaining the marginal living entities (jiva souls) and tatastha-sakti.

Srila Prabhupada - "The Lord remembers all, but His associates, although liberated souls, forget due to their being taṭasthā-śakti (when conditioned in the material atmosphere or impersonal Brahmajyoti), or (a feature of the) marginal potency of the Lord.

That is the difference between the viṣṇu-tattva and jīva-tattva. 

The jīva-tattvas are infinitesimal potential particles of the Lord, and therefore they require the protection of the Lord at all times.

And to the eternal servitors of the Lord, the Lord is pleased to give all protection at all times. 

The liberated souls never, therefore, think themselves as free as the Lord or as powerful as the Lord, but they always seek the protection of the Lord in all circumstances, both in the material world and in the spiritual world.

This dependence of the liberated soul is constitutional, for the liberated souls are like sparks of a fire that are able to exhibit the glow of fire along with the fire and not independently.

Independently the glow of the sparks is extinguished, although the quality of fire or the glowing is there.

Thus those who give up the protection of the Lord and become so-called lords themselves, out of spiritual ignorance, come back again to this material world, even after prolonged tapasya of the severest type. That is the verdict of all Vedic literature". (SB 1.14.32-33, Purport)

This material creation is the taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics, and the spiritual world is the "personal" characteristics, so our effort is to get out of this taṭastha (conditioned) characteristics and to enter Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana, this is called spiritual elevation.

Srila Prabhupada - "Twenty-five percent of Krsna's personal radiation (effulgence) comprehends the entire expansion of the material universes.

This is also explained and stated in the Bhagavad-gītā (10.42). Thus the seventy-five percent expansion of His radiation is called His internal energy, whereas the twenty-five percent expansion is called the external energy of the Lord.

The living entities, who are residents of the spiritual as well as the material expansions, are His marginal energy (in that conditioned state known as taṭastha-śakti), and they are at liberty to live in either of the energies, external (material) or internal (Spiritual).

Those who live within the spiritual expansion of the Lord are called liberated souls, whereas the residents of the external expansion are called the conditioned souls". (SB 2.6.17, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "According to Viṣṇu Purāṇa, Bhagavad-gītā and all other Vedic literatures, the living entities are generated from the taṭasthā energy (are the ETERNAL marginal living entities) of the Lord, and thus they are always the energy of the Lord and are not the energetic. (SB 3.7.9, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "Paramātmā, the Supersoul, is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and He is eternally liberated.

In other words, the Supreme Personality of Godhead is living within this body along with the individual soul, and this is confirmed in the Vedas.

They are likened to two friends sitting on the same tree. Yet Paramātmā is above the illusory energy.

The illusory energy is called bahiraṅgā śakti, or external energy, and the living entity is called taṭasthā-śakti, or marginal potency.

As stated in Bhagavad-gītā, the material energy, represented as earth, water, air, fire, sky, etc., and the spiritual energy, the living entity, are both energies of the Supreme Lord.

Even though the energies and the energetic are identical, the living entity, individual soul, being prone to be influenced by the external energy, considers the Supreme Personality of Godhead to be one with himself". (SB 4, 22 38, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "The Supreme Personality of Godhead has three primary energies, or potencies.

1 -The first is called antaraṅga-śakti, or the internal potency.

2 - The second is called taṭastha-śakti, or the marginal potency.

3 - The third is called bahiraṅga-śakti, or the external potency.

The living entities constitute the marginal potency, and they are situated between the internal and external Potencies.

Being subordinate as eternal servants of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the jīvātmās, or atomic living entities, must remain under the control of either the internal or external potency.

When they are under the control of the internal potency, they display their natural, constitutional activity—namely, constant engagement in the devotional service of the Lord". (Nectar of Instruction 2, Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "The Vaikuṇṭha planets are a product of the spiritual energy of the Lord.

The marginal living entities belong to this spiritual energy, but because they can reside in either the spiritual world or the material world, even though they are originally spiritual they are designated as taṭastha-śakti because they belong to the marginal plane.

The Vaikuṇṭha planets are a manifestation of the Lord's internal potency, while the material world is a manifestation of His external potency.

Since the Supreme Lord is the master of all energies, it is an irrefutable fact that He is in full control of both the spiritual and material worlds. (Renunciation Through Wisdom 2.8)

Prabhupada also explains above the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) do not originate from the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Maha Visnu within His material creation.

The Sanskrit word "sarva-gatah" means life (individual jiva-souls) are EVERYWHERE.

However there are many different categories of sakti.

The "marginal plane or potency" is NOT a place where souls are created from, or originate from because they have no origin as clearly explained above.

The jiva-souls have ALWAYS existed as the marginal living entities that have no origin point because they are eternal, so the word generated means they are part and parcel of the marginal energy and does NOT literally mean they originated from anywhere.

The marginal living entities or jiva-souls did NOT originate from a fallen condition in the impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman. 

Long, long before that, the jiva-souls fell down (chosen leave) Vaikuntha or Goloka.

As Prabhupada explains above, in Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha, the marginal living entities are not called tatastha-sakti because tatastha-sakti is the "conditioned state" of the marginal living entities describing their existence ONLY in the material creation and impersonal Brahmajyoti.

Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana are the marginal living entities (jiva souls) original homes. 

The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there if they want. 

Everything is voluntarily in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana and one can change their rasa from being Krsna's friend in Goloka Vrindavana to serving Visnu in the Vaikuntha Planets too if they want, from flower to human body. 

That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. 

If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything.

The impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman is NOT the origin of the marginal living entities, in fact as said above, tatastha-sakti is the FALLEN condition state of the marginal living entity (jiva-soul).

The jiva-souls fall to that conditioned state in both the material worlds and the impersonal Brahmajyoti. 

In both conditioned states above, the marginal living entity (jiva-souls) are called tatastha-sakti.

The individual jiva-souls ARE marginal in two different categories.

1 - As the marginal living entity in the condition state known as tatastha sakti ONLY in the material creation and impersonal Brahmajyoti.

2 - As the marginal living entity as their Svarupa Spiritual bodily form in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan (where the marginal living entities are not know as tatastha-sakti)

The jiva-souls are ALWAYS the marginal plane or potency, be it in the material creation, impersonal Brahmajyoti or the Spiritual Worlds of Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana.

Yet the marginal living entities have different names describing their position.

There are 160 other names for the marginal living entity in the material creation, impersonal Brahmajyoti and Spiritual Worlds and tatastha-sakti is one of those names.

The fact is, on the Spiritual platform there is no creation of more individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) because they were NEVER created, they have ALWAYS existed just like Krsna has.

In other words, the Sun-disc maintains the sun-rays therefore the sun-rays CANNOT exist without the Sun-disc similarly Krsna cannot exist without His parts and parcels especially Srimati Radharani.

Krsna and the jiva-souls cannot exist without each other which means Krsna has no meaning without His devotees, just like the Sun-disc has no meaning without the Sun-rays.

The jiva-souls were NEVER created, explained here Chapter 2 Text 20 Bhagavad Gita As It Is-

"For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain". (Bhagavad Gita Chapter 2 Text 20)

The jiva-souls are unique individual PERSONS who are independent parts and parcel of Krsna, yet dependent on Krsna like the sunrays are dependent on the Sun-disc.

So it is clear the jiva-souls are eternal without beginning or end and were NEVER generated (created) from some origin point like the impersonal Brahmajyoti as some other sangas (religious cults) wrongly believe.

Each of Krsna’s devotees (jiva-souls) interacts with Krsna by their "free will" and CHOOSES one of five primary relationships.

All jiva-souls are EQUALLY intimate with Krsna because in the Spiritual World all relationships with Krsna are voluntary and equally blissful, just like one may like a carnation flower while others choose to like a rose flower.

Loving ,"voluntary" relationships with Krsna number from one to five.

These five are -

1 - Neutrality,

2 - Servitude,

3 - Friendship,

4 - Parental affection,

5 - And conjugal love.













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  1. The marginal living entities, marginal potency or jiva souls are ALWAYS found throughout the entire Spiritual Sky in four different realms.

    1 - From associating with Krishna in Goloka Vrindavana as a friend and four other different ways.

    2 - Serving Vishnu as the Supreme God in Vaikuntha.

    3 - Being embodied (covered) in a temporary material bodily vessel in the material creation.

    4 - And attempting to cease one's existence in the dormant inactive impersonal Brahmajyoti.

    Entering the Impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahman to Vaiṣṇavas is considered Spiritual suicide.

    However, such merging is also only temporary even though the jiva soul can stay there for a very very long time.

    They eventually full out of the impersonal Brahmajyoti because the nature of the jiva soul is to be active and have a life.

    In fact, the jiva soul can stay there for so long that when they again awaken from their impersonal inactive slumber, they wrongly believe the impersonal Brahmajyoti is their origin.

    They forget they fell to that dormant condition in the first place a long, long, long time ago that can equal quadrillions of life times of Lord Brahma who lives for 311 trillion 40 billion human years.

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