Friday, December 2, 2022

The jiva-souls were NEVER created, they have always existed. Therefore, there are no new jiva-souls.

Srila Prabhupada - "There is no new soul, new and old are due to this material body, but the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth, so how there can be new soul?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 7/9/1970)

Beware of the website Wikipedia, many contributors there explaining Vedic teaching are nonsense impersonalists and mayavadis!

Maha-Visnu does NOT create any jiva-souls as some big sannyasis and gurus foolishly believe.

The jiva-souls go through Maha-Visnu to aquire a material bodily vessel so they can enter the material creation, no jiva-souls originates from Maha-Visnu, nor does He create jiva-souls as some sangas and their gurus wrongly teach.

Srila Prabhupada – "Regarding your questions where are the spirit souls coming from?  These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha, but in these material worlds they are taking various grades of bodies according to their material activities. There is no new soul. New and old are due to this material body, but the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth, so how there can be new soul?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 7/9/1970)

All jiva-souls are beginningless and endless, they were NEVER created, not even by Krsna because they have always existed, just like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays have always existed together. 

Krsna is like the Sun-disc who maintains all the sun-rays (jiva-souls) both are eternal without beginning or end.

As Bhagavad Gita As It Is "correct 1983 edition" Ch 2 text 20 reveals-

"For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG Ch 2 text 20)

Srila Prabhupada - "Because he stays dormantly merged into the Body of Maha-Visnu after the dissolution of the material universes (Brahmandas), he thinks Maha-Visnu is his origin, or when one falls down from Brahma-sayujya (impersonal Brahmajyoti), he also thinks that this impersonal Brahmajyoti may be his origin, but he does not remember that long, long, long before that, he was with Krsna." (letter to Madhudvisa Swami, July 1972 Melb, Australia)

Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense, everyone comes from Krsnaloka (Goloka-Vrindavana). When one forgets Krsna, he is conditioned (nitya-baddha), when one remembers Krsna he is liberated (nitya-siddha)." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)

Also no jiva-souls originates from the impersonal Brahmajyoti either.  

Srila Prabhupada - "Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition (the impersonal brahmajyoti and tatastha-sakti). When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is 1983 correct edition, Chapter 2 text 12-

"Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG Ch 2 text 12)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is 1983 correct edition, Chapter 2 text 20-

"For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG Ch 2 text 20)

At anytime we can choose to leave the spiritual world Prabhupāda explains here-

Devotee - "Are all pure nitya-siddha devotees of Krsna vegetarian? 

Srila Prabhupāda - "Garuḍa is not vegetarian. You know that?"

Prajāpati - "He eats snakes."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, he is not vegetarian. So if one becomes a sincere devotee like Garuḍa, you can allow him to become non-vegetarian. If he cannot give it up."

Nara-nārāyaṇa - "Garuḍa is from the jīva-tattva or he is an expansion?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "No, he is jīva-tattva (jiva-soul) Nitya-siddha."

Nara-nārāyaṇa - "Does that mean that there is some souls who can come under influence of māyā in the spiritual sky and some souls who cannot?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, that potency is there always."

Umāpati - "Is that the difference between jīva-tattva and Viṣṇu-tattva?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, therefore Viṣṇu-tattva is called acyuta, infallible." (Morning Walk - Jan 12, 1974, Los Angeles)














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