Each individual jiva-soul is a spiritual bodily form with their own unique independent identity, personality and spiritual bodily form different from Krsna's Form.
The eternal individual jiva-souls have always existed without any beginning point, nor will they ever cease to be.
Therefore, the individual jiva-souls are eternal like Krsna and never created.
The marginal living entities or jiva-souls (anti-matter) are not affected by the decomposition and demise of the external temporary material bodily vessels or container (matter) they are in while in the material world.
Only the temporary material bodily vessels the jiva-souls are in decays and breaks down due to maggots, worms, ants and insects, and eventually wasts away to dust and merges back into the lifeless material energy (matter).
The individual jiva-souls are indestructible and were never created, they have always existed like Krsna has always existed as Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter Two explains.
Even though the jiva-souls always have their freedom of expression (free will), Krsna always remains the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes who is behind everything that exists in the spiritual and material worlds.
In actual fact, not a blade of grass can move without the will or sanction of Krsna, yet personally Krsna has no interest in the material world and mostly ignores the place unless His pure devotees requests He intervens.
Even then, it is not the original child Kṛṣṇa who enters the material, it is Kṛṣṇa's Visnu expansion who enters the material world and plays the 2 armed role of Krsna in Vrindavana, Mathura and on the battlesfield of Kurukshetra etc.
Only a minority of individual jiva-souls (less than 10%) choose to enter the material world and suffer the consequences of that choice with their actions while there.
Krsna does not interfere, nor cares what goes on in the material world, unless if approached by His pure devotee, which is very rare.
Everything rests in Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.
The individual jiva-souls in their original infinite spiritual position in the spiritual world, have the same eternal bodily features as Krsna,
sat, cit, ananda, vigraha,
which means-
eternity, knowledge, bliss, spiritual bodily form.
Srila Prabhupada explains the individual jiva-souls always has their, this allows the jiva-souls to make voluntary contributing service on different levels that intensities, expands the multiples the reciprocal loving exchanges between Kṛṣṇa and the jiva-souls.
This means all individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are independent unique individuals who can voluntarily choose how to contribute in their own unique way in their service to Krsna.
Srila Prabhupada - "In the spiritual world all service to Krsna is voluntary, some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want that, to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)
Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada, why did Krsna give us free will if He knew we may miss use it to forget Him?"
Srila Prabhupada – "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don’t misuse your free will. But don’t try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Krsna is similtaneously one and different with all that there known as-
"Achintya Bheda Abheda Tattva"
This is because ultimately "everythin g belongs to Kṛṣṇa making Him the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.
This amazing philosophy of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu, who is the combination of Srimati Radharani's love for Kṛṣṇa, and Krsna's love for Srimati Radharani in the one spiritual Body (Lord Caitanya), is very difficult to understand. This is only properly realised by genuine devotees of Lord Krsna.
The individual jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS as a spiritual bodily form, who can never be destroyed, terminated, divided into pieces, extinguished or lose their unique individual identity as a "person" because they are indestructible for infinity.
The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are always independent voluntary contributing unique PERSONS in Kṛṣṇa's pastimes.
The individual jiva-souls can enter and experience any temporary material bodily container or vessel they choose over the infinity of the material world's existence.
However, all outer material bodily vessels or containers (matter) that covers the eternal individual jiva-souls, eventually breaks down, decomposes (dies) and again merges back into the oneness of material energy that all bodily vessels are made from in the temporary material world.
The eternal individual jiva-souls are not affected by the decomposition and demise of the external temporary material bodily vessel they are in because they are not the material body.
It is also important to understand that surrender to Krsna does not mean one needs to extinguish their unique identity, individuality and personality to become Krsna's servant, such impersonalism makes one no better than dead stone and compared to spiritual suicide.
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
In the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, Visnu and Krsna only expect voluntary personal offerings and contributions from the jiva-souls because such willing service initiates loving reciprocal exchanges between the Krsna and His devotees in a "two-way" loving exchange.
The unique quality of free will allows individual acts of self-expression that leads to personal unique offerings that enriches the relationship with Krsna.
Real love or service is based on this two-way exchange where the student Vaisnava is carefully nurtured to eventually achieves the personal goal of voluntary contributions that are the foundations of pure loving devotional service.
Such loving exchanges can only be fully expressed when the jiva-souls realize they each have their own independent characteristics and unique personality separate from Krsna's Personality, endorsed by free will (freedom of self-expression)
Without free will, one would never have the vision to intelligently contribute in their relationship with Kṛṣṇa in their own unique way, or increase and expand their devotional awareness of who they are as Krsna's servant who is a contributing independent individual marginal living entity (jiva-soul).
Having "free will" therefore is the eternal constitutional make up of every marginal living entity (jiva-soul), and the foundation for all jiva-soul's contributing relationship with Krsna.
Loving devotional service is always based on "two-way" voluntary exchanges of personal expressions manifesting as selfless loving acts of reciprocation between Kṛṣṇa and His devotees, who voluntarily contribute their own unique offerings of devotional service to Him as the real act of surrendering to Krsna's will.
On the other hand, actions expressed in a "one-way" domineering mood that do not encourage personal voluntary contributions, is dangerous impersonalism.
Personalism is only possible between two, in a "two-way" exchange of feelings and emotions that expands, enriches and multiplies loving affection, sentiment and exchanges between the individual jiva-souls and Krsna.
Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No, it is not good, that is not love that is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)
The eternal individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) can never exist independently from Krsna however, they must also have their freedom of independence also (a paradox) to be a contributing individual unique independent person, otherwise the jiva-souls are no better than impersonal puppets controlled by the puppet master.
Therefore, the jiva-soul's independent personality, identity and free will allows diversity and independent self expression, allowing the individual jiva-souls to make their own contributions or offerings, and even allows them to reject Krsna if they choose.
All these conditions must be allowed to exist otherwise loving exchanges with Krsna can never exist in a two-way loving exchange.
Krsna will always allow a separate existence for His marginal living entities (jiva-souls) endorsed by free will. This allows them to have their own unique personality for the purpose of contributing in a "two-way" voluntary exchange based on individual loving expressions that nurture and encourage unique contributions and personal offerings.
Free will allows the eternal individual jiva-souls to independently express themselves separately from Krsna, and gives them their own unique perspective and personality that allows self expression and voluntary contributions.
These independent unique qualities gives the individual jiva-soul's existence personal responsibility, purpose, creativity, hope, identity, a unique stand alone (independent) personality, allowing personal contributions of unique self-expression that makes the individual jiva-souls the independent PERSONS they are eternally.
These qualities establish the individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) as independent PERSONS, as a spiritual bodily form whose eternal home are the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, within Krsna's eternal endless pastimes.
In the spiritual world personal voluntary expressions of loving exchanges expressed through free will, are always encouraged by Krsna in His eternal relationship with the jiva-souls, this adds variegatedness, flavour, variety and mystery to the relationship between the individual jiva-souls and Krsna.
The Kingdom of God therefore, is not a "one-sided" dominating impersonal domain devoid of free will (freedom of self-expression), that does not allow personal independent contributions or offerings to God (Krsna), meant to expand, enrich, flavour and add mystery to the relationship.
Genuine loving relations and service are always based on voluntary reciprocal exhanges and contributions between TWO, (the meaning of personalism) not just "ONE" which is loveless impersonalism!
Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No, love means two, there must be two." (SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)
Free will only has meaning when the jiva-souls can express themselves in a two-sided relationship with Krsna by contributing to the relationship's expansion and nectarine mellows.
Srila Prabhupāda - "Love means a relationship between "two persons," then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)
All individual jīva-souls are eternal persons as a spiritual bodily form, there are no new jiva-souls being created because they have always existed meaning they are beginningless and endless.
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG, Ch 2 text 12)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." (BG, Ch 2 text 13)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "O Pārtha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, eternal, unborn and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?" (BG, Ch 2 text 21)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "As a person puts on new garments, giving up old ones, the soul similarly accepts new material bodies, giving up the old and useless ones." (BG, Ch 2 text 22)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - "The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind." (BG, Ch 2 text 23)
Srila Prabhupada – "There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?" (Letter to Jagadisa dasa 9th July 1970)
The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) have no origin or beginning point because they have always existed for infinity as explained above.
So, clearly there is no origin or beginning point to Krsna's marginal energy (an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls), who have existed for as long as Krsna has existed and will continue to exist for eternity (infinity).
The individual jiva-souls can enter or possess and experience any material bodily container or vessel they choose over the infinity of their endless existence, but only temporarily.
This is because all outer material bodily vessels or containers (matter) that covers the eternal individual jiva-souls (anti-matter), eventually breaks down, decomposes (dies) and merges back into the "oneness" of the material energy (matter) that all bodily vessels are made from in the material world.
However, the eternal individual jiva-souls (anti-matter) are not affected by the decomposition and demise of the external temporary material bodily vessel (matter) they are in.
Also, each eternal individual jiva-soul (anti-matter) can never become another individual jiva-soul, Krsna, Radharani, Visnu, Narayana and their expansions, or Siva and his expansions.
The individual jiva-souls are eternal persons who always have the choice (fee will) to express themselves in their own unique way in the spiritual world, or reject Krsna and enter the temporary material world if they choose.
The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are not complete in themselves unless they have their own unique independence (free will) to voluntarily choose to serve Krsna in their own unique way.
Therefore, without "free will or self expression," there can be no personal voluntary contributions or personal unique offerings to Krsna in a "two-sided" loving relationship.
Under these impersonal "one-sided" dictatorial conditions, the individual jiva-soul's existence would be no better than mindless drones devoid of any self-expression, personal voluntary contributions, reciprocating in a loving "two-way" relationship is spiritual suicide.
All marginal living entities (jiva-souls) in the spiritual world are eternal servants by choice, they voluntarily make their own independent decisions while serving Krsna, this makes them the unique contributing PERSON they are eternally, only then can an unlimited variety of intentional loving exchanges with Krsna be possible in a "two-way" reciprocal exhange.
Srila Prabhupada - "Love is a reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)
Srila Prabhupada - ''Love means you take, and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is not love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)
Krsna does not force His dominance over the jiva-souls in the spiritual world like a puppet master impersonally controls his puppets with strings.
Free will exists with the jiva-souls for the purpose of allowing self-expression and voluntary personal contributions in their relationship with Krsna, making the relationship a "two-sided" loving affair instead of a "one-way" dictatorship.
The reason why "life" (the unlimited existence of individual jiva-souls) can never be generated (created), is because the life force (that includes an unlimited collection of unique indestructible individual jiva-souls) have always existed and were never created.
Individual life (the collective of jiva-souls) are beginningless and endless as Bhagavad Gita As It Is explains.
Dormant life as an individual spark in the impersonal Brahmajyoti (the inactive individual jiva-souls), is a fallen condition of the jiva-souls.
However, even though this dormant inactive dreamless sleep condition lasts for a very, very long time, ultimately it is also temporary, this is because the natural state of the jiva-souls is to be always active, ultimately in Krsna's service.
Those jiva-souls who have fallen to the dormant (inactive) conditional state in the impersonal brahmajyoti do not originate from the impersonal brahmajyoti as fools believe, the individual jiva-souls are eventually awakened from their fallen dormant condition in the impersonal brahmajyoti.
Such a fall down to the dormant (inactive) brahmajyoti is unnatural for the individual jiva-souls whose real nature is to be fully active in Kṛṣṇa's eternal pastimes.
Individual life (the jiva-souls) therefore, are never created, not even by Krsna because the individual jiva-souls have always existed.
Once fallen to the material world of repeated birth and death, the individual jiva-souls generally eventually become frustrated with the constant suffering of repeated birth, disease, old age and death, and fall even further to the dormant (inactive) impersonal brahmajyoti in an attempt to end everything, or can even become dormant even in the material atom.
When individual life (the jiva-souls) eventually awakens from their dormant impersonal existence in the brahmajyoti, or the material atom, some jiva-souls will wrongly believe life originated or is created (generated) from the an impersonal origin in the brahmajyoti.
However, the individual jiva-souls has only been resting in a dormant inactive condition attained from a previous existence in the material world, a previous material universe long, long, long ago.
No eternal individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) originate from the impersonal Brahmajyoti which is an inactive condition of consciousness the individual jiva-souls fall too as Prabhupada explains here-
Srila Prabhupada - "Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
Others may also wrongly believe the individual life force is an "all-one all-pervading energy or force" and only has form and individuality when contained in a material bodily vessel, just like water contained in a jar becomes separated from the ocean of water around it by being in the jar.
The "life force" is also a collective of individual jiva-souls in their own category know as the marginal living entities. The individual jiva-souls are not an all-one-pervading consciousness like the Visnu-tattva's are (all different direct expansions of Kṛṣṇa or God), no, the jiva-souls are separate individual PERSONS eternally as explained in Chapter Two of Bhagavad Gita As It Is.
The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities), are a collective of eternal spiritual individual living beings who each have their own eternal unique personality, identity and spiritual bodily form.
The nonsense belief that all jiva-souls ultimately merge into "one all-pervading consciousnees" like rivers merge into the sea, and only become an individual when embodied, is dangerous mayavadi impersonalism.
This is because it denies the fact that ultimately the jiva-souls are an unlimited collective of unique individual eternal jiva-souls.
So the conclusion is, the individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are eternal spiritual living PERSONS who can never be destroyed, terminated, divided into pieces, extinguished or lose their individual identity.
The individual jiva-souls are indestructible and were never created, they have always existed like Krsna has always existed, as Bhagavad Gita As It Is explains above.
On the other hand Krsna is always the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, which means everything rests in Him and depends on Him always.
This includes His other expansions like Lord Siva, His unlimited variety of Visnu-tattva expansions, Srimati Radharani and Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu.
Only Krsna and His Visnu-tattva expansions are all the same person playing different roles in Krsna's Spiritual Sky.
On the other hand, the individual jiva-souls or marginal living entities are separated living entities with their own unique personality separate from Krsna's Personality.
From Krsna's point of view (through the eyes of God) all in the Spiritual Sky are part and parcel of Him because Krsna is the cause of all causes.
Krsna is similtaneously one and different with His eternal creation - "Achintya-Bheda-Abheda Tattva," ultimately everything belongs to Kṛṣṇa.
This philosophy of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu is very difficult to understand and only realised in the association of a genuine pure devotee of Lord Krsna.<^>.
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