The glorious pastime of the late Bhakta Andy Goss, 24 years old standing in front of the Travelling Hare Krishna Temple Bus in 1988, during the Nation wide campaign to free persecuted and imprisoned Hare Krishna devotees discriminated against because of their religious beliefs.

This following story is a chapter from the Australian contribution in the 1980s to help free imprisoned Hare Krishna devotees from being persecuted for their religious beliefs in the Soviet Union (now 16 different Countries) and Eastern Europe under Communist control.

In August 1988 during the Australian Travelling Temple "Free the Soviet Hare Krishnas" campaign, a young Australian boy Bhakta Andy Goss sadly died while preaching in the mission of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

In a fortunate way, He died at the very end of the Australian Nation wide campaign to gather one million signatures to give to Soviet Premiere Mr Gorbachev to convince him to release all Hare Krishna devotees.

Bhakta Andy was alive to see the wonderful Soviet devotees win their freedom on June 19th 1988.

It was then Soviet Government registered ISKCON as a legal religious institution in the Soviet Union with a request also from the Australian Prime Minister Robert (Bob) Hawke when he visited Moscow in December 1987.

Bhakta Andy would be amazed and in tears of joy today seeing the great Sankirtan parties in 2020 in places like the Ukraine, Russia, Poland etc.

The Australian public greatly support freedom of religion for all Soviet Hare Krishna devotees and our petition books were signed everywhere our Travelling Temple Bus went.

Bhakta Andy Goss was just 24 years of age in August 1988, a very humble hard working devotee who loved Jappa chanting, street Sankirtan, Book distribution and prasadam distribution, whom he enthusiastically did at all the Halls we hired in major Cities and Towns around Australia.

Bhakta Andy came from a very pious Australian family, his father was the Australian Ambassador to Israel.

He sadly died just outside of Brisbane Australia from being hit by a passing car while standing next to the Travelling Bus Temple while talking to Ramai Swami.

He had a glorious funeral attended by all the devotees at Murwillumbah Australia, his material body was wonderfully decorated by Braja Raj Dasa ACBSP and myself according to Vedic rituals.

His life for two years was dedicated to freeing Hare Krishna devotees in Russia and Eastern Europe and his service will never be forgotten in ISKCON history, one of the most important chapters in ISKCON history.

So what does Prabhupada say about a young un-initiated neophyte devotee who leaves his material body suddenly like this?

Harikeśa - "I'm curious about the destination of a neophyte devotee. If a neophyte devotee is with determination endeavoring for purification but he were to meet with death as he is still influenced by the lower modes, although he is seriously trying, then does he take another birth or does he go to Kṛṣṇa?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, he has to take another birth. If he is not completely purified, he has to suffer another birth. Nobody is allowed to enter into the spiritual world unless he is cent percent pure.

No allowance.

It is said, śucīnāṁ śrīmatāṁ gehe yoga-bhraṣṭo sañjāyate [Bg. 6.41].

He is given chance, another chance, to take birth in a very pure brāhmaṇa family or rich family so that he may take again the chance to become a perfect devotee, then he is allowed to enter. He is given a good chance again. That is his benefit.

So even if you are a failure in this life, still, your next birth as a very first-class human being is guaranteed.

But not for others who are not devotees.

It is only for the yogis (devotees). Therefore it is said that "What is the loss even if he is failure?"

Tyaktvā sva-dharmaṁ caraṇāmbujaṁ harer bhajann apakvo 'tha patet tato yadi yatra kva va abhadram abhūd amuṣya kim (SB Canto 1 Chapter 5 text 17)

This verse from Srimad Bhagavatam is very important. Even by sentiment one comes to Kṛṣṇa consciousness and discharges the regulative duties, chants Hare Kṛṣṇa, his next life is guaranteed as a human being.

Even if he does it for some time but is not perfect, still, his next life is guaranteed.

But others, there is no such guarantee for non devotees, even if he discharges his so-called duties, material duties, there is no guarantee that he'll become a human being".

Harikeśa - "They let him (Ajamila) stay in that body and then he went to Rṣīkeśa and performed devotional service and then became perfect".

Srila Prabhupāda - "No, he was already perfect, but to increase his desire of how shall I go Vaikuṇṭha, he had to wait sometime and go to Vaikuntha later. He was a perfect; otherwise how could he be saved from the Yamadutas?

Harikeśa - "So if a devotee dies and remembers Kṛṣṇa, although he is not perfect..."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Unless he is perfect, he cannot remember Kṛṣṇa. That is not possible. That is not possible. That is theory only. He MUST be perfect.

Somehow or other, he has fallen, so Kṛṣṇa gives him the chance. That is special concession for devotee.

Some way or other, you become devotee. Even if you cannot finish the whole job, if you fall down, still, there is guarantee that you get your birth in a very good society. That is the prerogative." (Morning walk Nairobi, 2nd November 1975)

PHOTO - Bhakta Andy Goss 24 years old standing in front of the Travelling Hare Krishna Temple preaching to guests.

Three Visnus that manage the temporary material creation.

1 - Kāraṇodakaśāyī Visnu is also known as Mahā-Visnu

2 - Garbhodakaśāyī Visnu is also known as Hiraṇyagarbha.  

3 - Ksirodakaśāyī Visnu is also known as Paramātmā or super soul and is in the hearts area of all material bodily vessels next to each individual jiva-souls who are the passengers in all 8 million 400 thousand species of different material bodily vessel life forms. 

This means each individual jiva-soul is accompanied by Lord Visnu in the Form of Paramatma in their journey of many life times through the material creation. Garbhodakaśāyī Visnu is an expansion of Mahā-Visnu (Kāraṇodakaśāyī Visnu)

In Gaudīya Vaisnavism the Sātvata-tantra describes three different forms of Visnu as:

1 - Mahā-Visnu who is also known as Kāraṇodakaśāyī Visnu.

2 - Garbhodakaśāyī Visnu or Hiraṇyagarbha.  

3 - Ksirodakaśāyī Visnu, Supersoul or Paramātmā.

Lord Brahma sits on the top of a lotus stem on a flower that grows from the naval of Garbhodakaśāyī Visnu.

And then Lord Brahma creates the 14 different material planetary systems and administrator's (demigods).

Each of the three Visnus have different roles in the maintenance of the material universe and its inhabitants.

Srila Prabhupada - "For material creation, Lord Krsna's plenary expansion assumes three Visnus.

1 - The first, Mahā-Viṣṇu or Kāraṇodakaśāyī Visnu, creates the total material energy, known as the mahat-tattva.

2 - The second, Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu, enters into all the universes to create diversities.

3 - And the third, Kṣīrodakaśāyī Visnu, is diffused as the all-pervading super soul in all the universes; in the heart of every living being, is known as Paramātmā.

Lord Visnu is present even within the atoms.

The real objective of meditation in Yoga is attaining a state of Paramātmā. Anyone who realises them can be liberated from material entanglement."(Sātvata tantra - Books of devotional service by Srila Prabhupada)

Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu is an expansion or overload of Mahā Viṣṇu (expansion of Saṃkarṣaṇa of second caturvyūha, which expands from Nārāyaṇa in Vaikuṇṭhaloka). The latter is realized as the expansion of Pradyumna and originally Krsna's first expansion Balarama.

Srila Prabhupada - "The three puruṣa-avatāras are described in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. They are also described in the Sātvata-tantra. Viṣṇos tu trīṇi rūpāṇi puruṣākhyāny atho viduḥ: the Supreme Personality of Godhead manifests three features as-

Kāraṇodakaśāyī-Viṣṇu (Maha Visnu),

Garbhodakaśāyī-Viṣṇu (Hiraņyagarbha) 

Kṣīrodakaśāyī-Viṣṇu (Paramatma or Supersoul)

Mahā-Viṣṇu, or Kāraṇodakaśāyī Viṣṇu, is described in the Brahma-saṁhitā (5.47). Yaḥ kāraṇārṇava-jale bhajati sma yoga-nidrām: the Supreme Lord, Kṛṣṇa, the cause of all causes, lies down in the cosmic ocean as Mahā-Viṣṇu. Therefore the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the beginning of this universe, the maintainer of the universal manifestations, and the end of all energy." (BG, Ch 10:20 purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "The Mahā-Viṣṇu, into whom all the innumerable universes enter and from whom they come forth again simply by His breathing process, is a plenary expansion of Kṛṣṇa. Therefore I worship Govinda, Kṛṣṇa, the cause of all causes." Therefore one should conclusively worship the personal form of Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Personality of Godhead who has eternal bliss and knowledge. He is the source of all forms of Viṣṇu, He is the source of all forms of incarnation, and He is the original Supreme Personality, as confirmed in Bhagavad-gītā." (BG, Ch, 11 text 54 purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "This part of the spiritual sky, called the mahat-tattva, is only an insignificant portion of the whole spiritual sky, and within this mahat-tattva there are innumerable universes. All these universes are collectively produced by the Kāraṇodakaśāyī Viṣṇu, called also the Mahā-Viṣṇu, who simply throws His glance to impregnate the material sky." (SB Canto 1:3:1 purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "They can see only the circular sky overhead, without any information that this universe, as well as many other hundreds of thousands of universes, are each covered by sevenfold material coverings of water, fire, air, sky, ego, noumenon and material nature, just like a huge football, pumped and covered, floating on the water of the Causal Ocean, wherein the Lord is lying as Mahā-Viṣṇu. All the universes in seed are emanating from the breathing of the Mahā-Viṣṇu, who is but part of a partial expansion of the Lord, and all the universes presided over by the Brahmās vanish when the Mahā-Viṣṇu withdraws His great breath. In this way, the material worlds are being created and vanished by the supreme will of the Lord." (SB, Canto 2:1:25 purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "He expands Himself by His different energies, as well as by His plenary portions. In a corner of the spiritual sky of brahmajyoti a spiritual cloud sometimes appears, and the covered portion is called the mahat-tattva. The Lord then, by His plenary portion as Mahā-Viṣṇu, lies down within the water of the mahat-tattva, and the water is called the Causal Ocean (Kāraṇa-jala). While Mahā-Viṣṇu sleeps within the Causal Ocean, innumerable universes are generated along with His breathing.

These universes are floating, and they are scattered all over the Causal Ocean. They stay only during the breathing period of Mahā-Viṣṇu. In each and every universal globe, the same Mahā-Viṣṇu enters again as Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu and lies there on the serpentlike Śeṣa incarnation. From His navel sprouts a 

lotus stem, and on the lotus, Brahmā, the lord of the universe, is born. Brahmā creates all forms of living beings of different shapes in terms of different desires within the universe. He also creates the sun, moon and other demigods." (SB, Canto 2:5:33 purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "In the Bṛhad-āraṇyaka Upaniṣad (1.4.1) there is the hymn ātmaivedam agra āsīt puruṣa-vidhaḥ. This mantra indicates the Supreme Personality of Godhead (Kṛṣṇa) even before the appearance of the puruṣa incarnation. In the Bhagavad-gītā (15.18) it is said that Lord Kṛṣṇa is Puruṣottama because He is the supreme puruṣa, transcendental even to the puruṣa-akṣara and the puruṣa-kṣara. The akṣara-puruṣa, or the Mahā-Viṣṇu, throws His glance over prakṛti, or material nature, but the Puruṣottama existed even before that. The Bṛhad-āraṇyaka Upaniṣad therefore confirms the statement of the Bhagavad-gītā that Lord Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Person (Puruṣottama)." (SB, Canto 2:9:33 purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "There are three different types of creation, called mahā-kalpa, vikalpa and kalpa. In the mahā-kalpa the Lord assumes the first puruṣa incarnation as Kāraṇodakaśāyī Viṣṇu with all the potencies of the mahat-tattva and the sixteen principles of creative matter and instruments. The creative instruments are eleven, the ingredients are five, and all of them are products of mahat, or materialistic ego. These creations by the Lord in His feature of Kāraṇodakaśāyī Viṣṇu are called mahā-kalpa. The creation of Brahmā and dispersion of the material ingredients are called vikalpa, and the creation by Brahmā in each day of his life is called kalpa. Therefore each day of Brahmā is called a kalpa, and there are thirty kalpas in terms of Brahmā's days." (SB, Canto 2:10:46 purport).

Srila Prabhupada - "Every living being is controlled by the supreme living being, Paramātmā, who resides within everyone's heart. He is the puruṣa, the puruṣa-avatāra, who creates this material world. The first puruṣa-avatāra is Mahā-Viṣṇu, and that Mahā-Viṣṇu is the plenary portion of the plenary portion of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa's first expansion is Baladeva, and His next expansions are Vāsudeva, Saṅkarṣaṇa, Aniruddha and Pradyumna." (SB, Canto 5:11:13-14 purport).

Srila Prabhupada - "Kṛṣṇa is the origin of all viṣṇu-tattvas, including Mahā-Viṣṇu, Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu and Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu. He is the ultimate goal of Vaiṣṇava philosophy. Everything emanates from Him. His body is completely spiritual and is the source of all spiritual being." (CC 2:20:153 purport).

Srila Prabhupada - "This material world is a manifestation of the three modes goodness, passion and ignorance, and the Supreme Lord, for the creation, maintenance and destruction of the material world, accepts three predominating forms as Brahmā, Viṣṇu and Śaṅkara (Śiva). 

As Viṣṇu He enters into every body materially created. 

As Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu He enters into every universe.

And as Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu He enters the material body of every living being (embodied jiva-soul)

Śukadeva Gosvāmī said - "Let me offer my respectful obeisances unto the Supreme Personality of Godhead who, for the creation of the material world, accepts the three modes of nature. He is the complete whole residing within the body of everyone, and His ways are inconceivable. 

This material world is a manifestation of the three modes goodness, passion and ignorance, and the Supreme Lord, for the creation, maintenance and destruction of the material world, accepts three predominating forms as Brahmā, Viṣṇu and Śaṅkara (Śiva). 

As Viṣṇu He enters into every body materially created. 

As Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu He enters into every universe.

And as Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu He enters the body of every living being. 

Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, being the origin of all viṣṇu-tattvas, is addressed here as paraḥ pumān, or Puruṣottama, as described in the Bhagavad-gītā (15.18). He is the complete whole. The puruṣāvatāras are therefore His plenary expansions. 

Bhakti-yoga is the only process by which one can become competent to know Him. Because the empiric philosophers and mystic yogīs cannot conceive of the Personality of Godhead, He is called anupalakṣya-vartmane, the Lord of the inconceivable way, or bhakti-yoga.

The Lord as Garbhodakasayi Visnu lies in the ocean of Garbha within this universe, and from His navel the lotus flower sprouts. 

Lord Brahma is generated from that lotus flower, and from Lord Brahma the creation of this material world begins." (SB, Canto 2.4.12, from Translation and Purport)^*^

It's not that Krsna (God) has to personally appear to help us by waving some magic wand, it does not work that way, God appears in many ways through many others.

In early February 1973 in Sydney Australia Srila Prabhupada developed a serious infection on his finger from a paper cut while opening mail.

The infected finger got worse over a few days and eventually he asked us to bring him a doctor who would give him penicillin. We did this and the penicillin given to Srila Prabhupada healed his finger within a day.

One young devotee saw that Prabhupada was constantly chanting Hare Krsna, translating Srimad Bhagavatam's 3rd Canto and preaching to the devotees and therefore believed he would always be protect by Krsna.

So now this boy was confused, he could not understand why Krsna never fully protected his pure devotee, so he asked Prabhupada -

''You are always chanting Krsna's name, working late at night translating Sastra into English and preaching to the devotees, why didn't Krsna heal your finger that caused you some discomfort?''

Srila Prabhupada answered, showing great faith in Lord Krsna,

''Oh yes Krsna was so kind He immediately helped me! It was Krsna who sent the penicillin that healed my finger''.

It's not that Krsna has to personally appear to help us by waving some magic wand, it does not work that way, He may appear in many ways through many others. 

Krsna also wants us to contribute personal endeavours to achieve our very best as the individual jiva-soul we are eternally-

''God helps those who helps themselves'' that's the secret of spiritual life.

The highest realization of Brahman is it originates from the bodily Form (Vigraha) of Krishna.

The highest realization of Brahman is it originates from the bodily Form (Vigraha) of Krishna. 

Every individual marginal living entity (jiva-tattva soul) in the Spiritual World with 78% of Krishna's qualities has -

1 - their own personality,
2 - their own independent identity,
3 - their own unique characteristics exclusive to them,
4 - their own unique sense of self,
5 - their own abilities and talents and likes and dislikes.
6 - and their own perpetual spiritual bodily (vigraha) form (svarupa) that IS them, and is who each individual jiva soul really is without any beginning or end.

This means the jiva souls spiritual bodily form is ALWAYS within the "eternal presence" of Goloka Vrindavana.

The Spiritual realm has no sense of past or future because only the eternal presence exist there.

Everything there is situated in endless Krishna consciousness pastimes, meaning all jiva souls have ALWAYS been there in Goloka-Vrindavan, even if they choose to enter the past, present and future of the temporary material creation.

One has to understand the eternal presence of the Spiritual realm to understand that last comment.

Even if one spends billions of years in the temporary material creation, when they return home back to Godhead, it will seem they had gone just for a moment. In other words Prabhupada has explained, they NEVER really left!

So clearly the full potential of the individual marginal living entities (jiva souls) is manifest as a spiritual bodily form.

I  - sat - eternity
2 - chit - knowledge
3 - ananda - bliss
4 - vigraha - Form.

The highest realization of Brahman is it originates from the bodily Form of Krishna. 

Krishna is Form and all His Vishnu tattva, Shakti tattva, Shiva tattva and Jiva tattva expansions are also all eternal FORMS (VIGRAHA).

No living entities originate from the impersonal Brahman or Brahmajyoti, their consciousness can only fall to that inactive impersonal condition, but no souls originate from there as bogus Sangas believe.

Also the qualities of sat, chit, ananda, vigraha that each marginal living entity are, is part and parcel of their natural eternal constitutional position and ultimately their spiritual bodily svarupa form.

The quality of "free will" allows each individual jiva soul to choose what service THEY want to offer to Krishna without EVER loosing THEIR independent expression of free will. 

This is the real meaning of surrender and not try to obliterate or end your individuality, unique personality and free will.

In other words, surrender really means òffering the best service YOU choose to do, which may also include what other great devotees humbly request you to do, if YOU choose to accept.

The point made here is, each individual jiva soul is unique, and is completely different from all other jiva souls. Each jiva soul in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, has their own unique personality, sense of self, likes and dislikes.

Each jiva soul is "one of a kind" and their relationship with Krishna is unique and special for them, that no other jiva soul has. 

This is Personalism.

No two jiva souls are the same.

Denying that the jiva soul has their own independent individuality, that includes them experiencing their own personal sense of self being independent, yet simultaneously dependant on Krishna in the Spiritual Sky, is Impersonalism.

Krishna does NOT interfere with the jiva-soul's free will, He never forces a soul to love, serve or surrender to Him.

Srila Prabhupada - "In Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me'. Is it love?" “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krishna does not want to become a lover like that". (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krishna give us free will if He knew we would miss use it and enter the material world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - "So God does not interfere with your independence, you have got little independence, you have acquired this quality from your father (God), Krishna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)

Devotee – “In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krishna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krishna did not want us to come here, why are we here?”

Srila Prabhupada – "You have got independence and free will, God does not interfere with your little independence. You forced Krishna to allow you to come. Just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, “My dear son, do not do this. Do not go there.” But he insists, “Oh, I must go. I must go.” “All right, you go at your own risk and you suffer. What can be done?” (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)***

The highest realization of Brahman is that spirit (anti-matter) is held together by eternal Form. Krsna and His Visnu-tattva, Sakti-tattva, Siva-tattva and Jiva-tattva (soul) expansions are that eternal form. ORIGINALLY all living entities are eternal FORMS.

No living entities originate from the impersonal Brahman or Brahmajyoti, they can only fall to that inactive dormant condition.

Every individual marginal living entity (jiva-tattva soul) in the spiritual world has 78.125% of Krsna's qualities has-

1 - Their own individual personality separate from Krsna's Personality.  

2 - Their own independent identity.

3 - Their own unique character exclusive to them.

4 - Their own unique independent sense of self from Krsna.

5 - Their own abilities and talents, and likes and dislikes.

6 - Their own perpetual ORIGINAL 2 armed spiritual bodily Form (svarupa) that IS them eternally without beginning or end, but can voluntarily changed to unlimited others bodily forms in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.  

Each individual jiva-soul is a perpetual PERSON as a bodily form without any beginning or end.

This means the jiva-soul's spiritual bodily form is ALWAYS within the "eternal presence" of Goloka Vrindavana because the Spiritual realm has no sense of past or future because there is only the eternal presence of Krsna there.

Everything there is situated in endless Krsna conscious pastimes, meaning all jiva-souls have ALWAYS been in Goloka-Vrindavan, even if they sometimes choose to enter the past, present and future of the temporary material creation.

Even if one spends billions of years in the temporary material creation, when they return home back to Godhead, it will seem as if they had gone there for just a moment. In other words, Prabhupada has explained, they NEVER really left!

So clearly the full potential of the individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is manifest as a spiritual bodily form (person) serving Krsna.

I  - sat - eternity
2 - chit - knowledge
3 - ananda - bliss
4 - vigraha - Form.

The highest realization of Brahman is Form. 

Krsna is eternal Form and all His Visnu-tattva, Sakti-tattva, Siva-tattva and Jiva-tattva category expansions are also all eternal FORMS (VIGRAHA).

No living entities originate from the impersonal Brahman or Brahmajyoti, the jiva-souls can only fall to that inactive impersonal condition, but no jiva-souls originate from there as  some foolishly believe.

Also the qualities of sat, chit, ananda, vigraha that each marginal living entity are, is part and parcel of their natural eternal constitutional position and ultimately their spiritual bodily svarupa form.

The quality of "free will" allows each individual jiva-soul to choose what service THEY want to offer to Krsna without EVER loosing THEIR independent expression of free will. 

This is the real meaning of surrender and not try to obliterate or end your individuality, unique personality and free will.

In other words, surrender really means òffering the best service YOU choose to do, which may also include what other great devotees humbly request you to do, if YOU choose to accept.

The point made here is, each individual jiva soul is unique, and is completely different from all other jiva-souls. 

Each jiva-soul in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana has their own unique personality separate from Krsna's Personality, sense of self, likes and dislikes.

Each jiva-soul is "one of a kind" and their relationship with Krsna is unique and special for them as a person that no other jiva-soul has. This is Personalism. No two jiva-souls are the same.

Denying that the jiva-soul has their own independent individuality, that includes them experiencing their own personal sense of self being independent, yet simultaneously dependant on Krsna in the spiritual sky, is Impersonalism.

Krsna does NOT interfere with the jiva-soul's free will, He never forces a jiva-soul to love, serve or surrender to Him.

Srila Prabhupada - "In Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me'. Is it love?" “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that." (July 8, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (July 8, 1976)

Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krsna give us free will if He knew we would miss use it and enter the material world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - "So God does not interfere with your independence, you have got little independence, you have acquired this quality from your father (God), Krsna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)

Devotee – “In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come here, why are we here?”

Srila Prabhupada – "You have got independence and free will, God does not interfere with your little independence. You forced Krsna to allow you to come. Just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, “My dear son, do not do this. Do not go there.” But he insists, “Oh, I must go. I must go.” “All right, you go at your own risk and you suffer. What can be done?” (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)

As said above the ORIGINAL eternal form of the jiva-soul is a bodily form like Krsnas Prabhupada has said, two arms, two legs, etc, like Krsna has in Vṛndāvana.

This means the 4 armed bodily form the jiva-souls have in the Vaikuntha Planets that looks like Vishnu/Narayana Form is NOT the original form because ALL marginal living entities (jiva-souls) originate from Goloka Vrindavana, from their original two armed form. 

Devotee – “Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?”

Srila Prabhupada – “Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So, God is also like human form. Here you see, Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri – “How do we understand, then that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?”

Srila Prabhupada – “[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with a blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri - “They are covered in the spiritual world?”

Srila Prabhupada - “Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; then they become flower there. If I want to be a flower, I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna; he becomes flower and voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable yet a fact."(Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)**^^