Monday, December 21, 2020

For voluntary loving exchanges to expand, grow and flourish eternally in the spiritual world, the jiva-soul MUST have the unique personal ability of how to expression themselves so they can experience loving reciprocal exchanges in a two-sided affair.

Without the exchange of loving emotions and feelings between two in the spiritual world, genuine loving service to Krsna can NEVER exist.

"Love" is ALWAYS based on the respectful reciprocation between two, where no one dominates, bullies, uses or forces themselves on others. 

This is because REAL loving exchanges or service can ONLY exist when there are voluntary caring trade offs (exchanges) between two.

Such a "two-way," two-sided exchange based on reciprocation and voluntary offerings, is the foundation of a productive meaningful "personal" exchange with Krsna and Visnu.

Srila Prabhupada explains that the relationship between Krsna and the individual jiva-soul in Goloka-Vrindavan, and serving Narayana (Visnu) on the Vaikuntha planets, is NEVER a "one-way, one-sided impersonal loveless affair. 



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If the relationship with Krsna was "one sided" and only Him doing all the thinking for you, then such a meaningless impersonal nonsense existence is denying the jiva souls in the Spiritual 

orlds from sharing their own personal voluntary contributions and individual choices that can only expand the loving relationship of exchanges with Krishna. 

For love to expand and grow eternally, there MUST be voluntarily loving exchanges between two, between Krsna and the individual jiva-soul.

Denying such "free will" and the ability to choose what the jiva soul can personally offer to Krishna, by forcing them to just obey and never to contribute their own unique personal abilities, or even question their existence, only condemns the jiva-soul's relationship with Krishna to a useless "one-side'' impersonal dicatorial affair, leaving the jiva soul no better than an emotionless lump of dead stone.

No, REAL love or service in the Spiritual World is ALWAYS based on the reciprocation between two because love can only exist when there is a caring respectful nurturing relationship between two.

Srila Prabhupāda – ''Unless there are two persons, where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there". (August 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – “So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - “Unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Ultimately each individual soul is a unique person with their own sense of independent self who are able to choose for themselves how to voluntarily serve Krishna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, or even ignore Him if they choose to do so.

As Prabhupada explains, Krishna NEVER forces you to surrender to Him, never forces you to love Him, that must be voluntary otherwise love can never exist.

Srila Prabhupada – "Krishna NEVER forces you to love Him, that MUST be voluntary. (Melbourne June 25, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada – "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krishna does not want to become a lover like that." (July 8, 1976)

Krishna never interferes with the Free will of the jiva soul

Srila Prabhupada - ''As soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is very nice," "Yes," Kṛṣṇa says, "yes, you go." Otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will. And Kṛṣṇa is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you enjoy like this." It is free will''. (Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course, May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

Devotee – "In Srimad Bhagavatam, it says that Krishna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krishna did not want us to come, why are we here?” Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?”

Srila Prabhupada - “That means you lose your independence, your free will. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ ” Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? So Krishna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C)

"Free will" in its full potential ONLY fully exists in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan, the Spiritual Worlds, which ARE the jiva souls original perpetual home.

Devotee - "Srila Prabhupada why did Krishna give us free will if He knew we may miss use it?"

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

"Is this Radical personalism?"

Foolish religious fanatics who cannot understand that the nature of the jiva-soul IS an independent contributing "PERSON" who eternally has within their constitution, the individual right of self expression based on free will, sadly call these comments by Srila Prabhupada "Radical personalism"

Srila Prabhupada - ''Their (impersonalist) philosophy is oneness. So how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant..." (Lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 2 Chapter 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974).

Becoming a disciple by surrendering to Krishna's pure devotee, does NOT mean one must extinguish their individuality, unique spiritual identity, personality and free will, and become Krishna's mindless drone and controlled pawn.

No, that is NOT surrendering to Krishna's pure devotee, it is actually embracing IMPERSONALISM!

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. Therefore love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, there MUST be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, so there must be lover, there must be beloved" (quote 1966 - 1974, Vaniquotes)

Srila Prabhupada - "We must understand that love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No, it is not good, that is NOT love, that is exploitation and forced obedience. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation" (quote 1966 - 1974, Vaniquotes)

The word "surrender" should be properly understood so that one's so called "surrender" and voluntary service is appreciated, reciprocated with and NOT demanding and impersonal.

Being an Impersonalist means-

1 - Attempting to extinguish your individuality, unique spiritual identity, personality and free will to just become Krishna's mindless drones and controlled pawns.

2 - Being bullied, patronized, talked down too and treated and used like a slave who is NEVER allowed to think for themselves, but rather instead should be nurtured, appreciated and encouraged to be a contributing independent living entity with the freedom of individual "self expression" when serving God.

3 - lnactively merge dormantly into His Brahman effulgence (Impersonal Brahmajyoti) attempting to extinguish one's individuality and unique personality.

In the Spiritual World with Krishna, "surrender" does NOT mean you give up you individuality, free will, sense of self or the independence that allows you to make your own personal contributions and offerings to Krishna unique to just you.

Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha are very "personal" places based on loving voluntary exchanges eternally going on with Krishna and His servants and friends.

Therefore the jiva soul's relationship with Krishna is unique and very personal, each jiva soul has their own different personal exchanges with Krishna that no other jiva soul duplicates.

No two jiva souls are the same in Vaikuntha (in personality and character) or Goloka-Vrindavana.

Therefore REAL love, service and surrender can ONLY exist in TWO WAY voluntary exchanges, based on reciprocation and mutual respect, Krishna NEVER forces His will on anyone in the Spiritual World.

Srila Prabhupada – “So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force.” (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)*^*












Sunday, December 20, 2020

Without "free will" within a "two-way" relationship, we are no better than dead stone.

Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

EVEN our "free will" Krsna allows for the purpose of having voluntary individual meaningful relationships of self expression, based on loving individual exchanges, personal constructive contributions that enhance the reciprocation between two. 

Real love or service can NEVER exist in a one-way or one-sided relationship, there must be two if one wants to experience reciprocation.

Without "free will" in a "two-way" exchange, we are no better than dead stone Prabhupada has said.*























Saturday, December 19, 2020

All the "eternal" Spiritual Planets and the "temporary decaying" material universes, belong to Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

Also Krishna is the original cause of all "Narayana and Vishnu" expansions in Vaikuntha.

Krishna is also the origin of Maha Vishnu and all the Garbhodakashayi Vishnu expansions who create and manage the temporary decaying material creation that takes up 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky.

3/4 of the Spiritual Sky is where the perpetual ever youthful Vaikuntha Planets and Goloka-Vrindavana eternally exist in unlimited "personal" pastimes with God (Krishna) who also has unlimited different other names (Vishnu-tattva expansions of Krishna) throughout all the Vaikuntha Planets in the Spiritual World.

Lord Vishnu, also known as Narayana and unlimited other names, expands from Krishna in Goloka-Vrindavana and live on the billions of perpetual Vaikuntha Planets within the Spiritual Sky. 

As explained above, Krishna is also the original source of Maha Vishnu who creates the material temporary universes called "Brahmandas" that each originate from His breathing and the pores of His skin as seen in painting below.

Furthermore, deep inside each Brahmanda material universe, there exists a "secondary inner material universe. 

This inner secondary universe is encased inside the surrounding Brahmanda material universe and is where Maha Vishnu expands as Garbhodakashayi Vishnu.

And from Him, Brahma appears and builds the Planetary Systems within this secondary inner universe inside the Brahmanda.

Therefore each of the billions of inner material universes deep inside their outer Brahmanda universe, has their own Garbhodakashayi Vishnu and Lord Brahma.

It is important to understand that all these inner secondary material universes deep inside each Brahmanda outer universe, are governed by their own Lord Brahma, who builds the Planetary Systems in his particular material universe.

For example, our small material universe deep inside our Brahmanda, has 14 Planetary Systems in it, while other material universes inside their Brahmanda, have many more Planetary Systems than ours, many many thousand more.

The size of each Brahmanda outer universe, also called a universal shell, vary in size.

The size of each "inner secondary material universe" depends on how many heads the Lord Brahma of each inner material universe has.

For example, in our material universe, often called Bhu-Mandala or Bhu-gola (meaning spherical in shape), our Brahma has four heads, making our material universe one of the smallest. 

In other material universes deep inside their Brahmanda, Brahma may have 10, 20, 50, 100, 100,000, or even a million heads.

This understanding of the material universe is beyond the comprehension of none devotees, materialists, atheists and impersonalist. 

There is only ONE Maha Vishnu in the material creation but there are billions of Garbhodakashayi Vishnus and Lord Brahmas.

Bhu-gola simply means a "spherical or round global shape". 

So there are "three Earth" (Bhu-gola or spherical) descriptions in scriptures explained here.

"Bhu-gola" is a Sanskrit word that also decribes our "Earth Planet" as a "round global sphere".

It is NOT flat as some primitive religions and their less intelligent followers have claimed due to their nonsense ignorant version of their scriptures.

This also includes those who  WRONGLY believe Vedic texts claim our Earth planet is flat.

There are "three Earth" meanings to the word "Bhu-gola".

In the Srimad Bhagavatam (Bhagavat Purana) "Bhu-gola" simply means "spherical, round or a globe".

The earth planet we live on is a "round global sphere" existing in the ocean of outer space and is 7,917.5 miles in diameter, it is NOT flat Srila Prabhupada clearly tells us-

Srila Prabhupada - "On the ground our earth looks flat but when you go up you will see our Earth planet is a ball, a global sphere" (Lecture New York 1966.)

Also the Sanskrit word "Dvīpa" does NOT only mean flat Island, the word has two meanings -

1 - "Islands" or "continents"

2 - Round planetary globes or spheres situated in the ocean of outer space.

Srila Prabhupada - "The planets are called dvīpas. Outer space is like an ocean of air. Just as there are islands in the watery ocean, these planets in the ocean of space are called dvīpas, or islands in outer space" (Caitanya Caritamrita Madhya 20.218, Purport)

Furthermore, the word "Bhu-gola" is not only a description of our Earth globe, but also describes the shape of the massive outer Brahmanda universe that surrounds and incases our smaller inner material universe, with its 14 planetary systems in it, that exists deep inside the surrounding outer Brahmanda universe.

There are billions of these greater Brahmanda almost spherical universes that all originate from the breathing and pores of the sleeping Maha Vishnu as seen in painting below.

Deep within each Brahmanda, also known as a celestial egg or "Bhu-gola" that means spherical as seen in painting below, there is a inner smaller secondary universe within it that is also spherical (Bhu-gola).

The sizes of both the outer Brahmandas and there inner secondary universe (both Bhu-gola or spherical in shape) vary in size based on how many heads the Brahma in each universe has.

Our universe inside our Brahmanda is considered small because Brahma has only 4 heads as explained above.

In other universes within other Brahmandas, their Brahma may have hundreds of heads, even thousands or even a million, yes, it is almost inconceivable to understand.

As explained, our small universe deep inside our surrounding Brahmanda, is described as being 500,000,000 yojanas (4 billion miles) in diameter.

Each yojanas is eight miles

And is often called "Bhu-gola" because it is also a round spherical universe inside the greater spherical Brahmanda.

"Bhu-gola" simply means "spherical", or a "round global shape". 

So there are "three Earth" (Bhu-gola) descriptions in scriptures. 

1 - The greater earth (Brahmanda) (and also called "Bhu-gola" which means spherical)

2 - The inner earth inside our Brahmanda is called "Bhu-gola" universe with its 14 Planetary Systems also called "Bhu-Mandala" 

3 - And "Bhu-gola" also refers to our small earth global sphere we live on within our middle planetary system called Bhuloka as well.

"Bhu-gola" describes the "Earth globe" as a round spherical planet, which is just a spec in one of the 14 planetary systems within our small universe also often called the Bhu-Mandala universe situated deep within the surrounding Brahmanda outer shell.

"Bhu-Mandala" or Bhu-gola (meaning round sphere) is described in the 5th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam as our inner material universe 4 billion miles in diameter inside our Brahmanda.

In this way, our small "Bhu-Mandala" universe with its 14 planetary systems, that is also described as "Bhu-gola" that means spherical, is surrounded by the greater "Bhu-gola" (Brahmanda) universe that encases our 4 billion mile diameter Bhu-mandala or Bhu-gola universe.

Therefore we can see that "Bhu-gola" (spherical) also refers to- 

1 - Our "Brahmanda universe" 

2 - The "inner secondary material universe inside the Brahmanda", 

3 - Our "Earth planet" within one of the 14 planetary systems that all exist within the inner secondary universe.

All the above are spherical like a ball in shape.

As explained, the size of our inner material universe deep inside our surrounding Brahmanda universe, is 500,000,000 yojana in diameter (4 billion miles).

One yojana is equal to eight miles.

Therefore -

8 times 500,000,000 yojanas = 4 billions miles (4000,000,000 miles).

So our Earth global sphere ( which  is really 7,917.5 miles in diameter) we humans live on is NOT 4 billions miles in diameter as some foolishly claim.  

Therefore our Earth planet CANNOT be Bhu-mandala according to the figures in the 5th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam! 

There it says Bhu-Mandala is almost 4 billions miles in diameter (500,000,000 yojanas) and that is a far too large of a description to be our Earth Planet or globe we live on. 

Now the diameter of our outer greater Brahmanda universe (A sphere that has 7 material layers) is massive, it is 44 quadrillion 444 trillion 444 billion miles in diameter or bigger.

Because that diameter can be just from the outer edge of our inner 4 billion mile diameter material universe.

This means the full size of our Brahmanda greater universe could be double that size according to some Vedic scholars.

In other words, if the measurement is taken from the outer edge of the inner 4 billion miles diameter spherical universe inside the Brahmanda, then the diameter of our outer surrounding Brahmanda shell is twice that size.

Please read and study the 5th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam and the Surya Siddhanta. *^*