Srila Prabhupada - "The human society, at the present moment, is NOT in the darkness of oblivion". (Śrimad Bhagavatam Preface)

Srila Prabhupada - "The human society, at the present moment, is NOT in the darkness of oblivion. It has made rapid progress in the field of material comforts of life, education and economic development of the entire world.

But it suffers a pin-prick somewhere in the social body at large and therefore there is large scale quarrel even on less important issues.

Therefore there is the want of the clue as to how they can become one in peace, friendship and prosperity by the common cause. Srimad Bhagavatam will fill up this gap by ontological aspect of human education. It is therefore a cultural presentation for re-spiritualisation of the entire human society." (Śrimad Bhagavatan Preface)

Each "jiva-soul" (marginal living entity) is a one of a kind individual with their own unique personality different from all other personalities, including Krsna (God).

No two individual jiva-souls are the same, and no jiva-souls can EVER become God (Krsna or Visnu). 

Also genuine loving devotional service to Krsna is ALWAYS based on a "two-way" exchange of personal feelings that manifest as loving acts of reciprocation between Krsna and His pure devotee.

Such devotees voluntarily contribute their own unique expressions of devotional service to the Lord as genuinely surrendering to Krsna's will that does not deny them of their own "free will" and personal offerings.

On the other hand, actions expressed in a "one-way" domineering imposing mood from God or Krsna in His eternal Kingdom, WITHOUT allowing personal voluntary contributions and offerings from the individual jiva-souls in a "two-way" exchange of feelings, existing for the purpose of expanding, enriching and multipling loving affection, sentiment and exchanges with Krsna, is NOT love at all, it is selfishness, forced slavery, impersonalism and a spiritually dead existence!

Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.  

Just like with the massive "Sun-disc" and the "sun-rays" (sunshine) there is a difference, the molecules of the "Sun-ray's particles" are not equal to the "Sun disc" that they emanate from.

In this way like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays, the jiva-souls are simultaneously one with Krsna yet at the same time different. Srila Prabhupada explains this in a lecture in Montreal, June 10, 1968.

Krsna is compared to the "Sun-disc" and the different types of living entities (Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva) are compared to the surrounding "sun-rays". 

By this example we also understand that the "Sun-disc" and the "sun-rays" can NEVER be separated or exist without each other. 

In other words Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes, is ALWAYS surrounded by His parts and parcels (the various types of living entities) and can NEVER be separated from them.

The living entities ARE expansions from the ONE Supreme Personality of Godhead Krsna, who has simultaneously expanded Himself as His individual parts and parcels, who are the various types of living entities such as- 

1 - Visnu-tattva who Visnu/Narayana expansions of Krsna on the Vaikuntha Planets,  and Maha-Visnu, Garbhodakashayi Visnu and Paramatma who manage the temporary material creation.

2 - Visnu-sakti-tattva living entities (technically Visnu-tattva) who are represented by Radharani and Her associates (internal potency) and are direct expansions of Krsna, none different from Krsna.

So what is Visnu-sakti-tattva? 

Srila Prabhupada - "Tattva is manifested in different ways-

1 - Viṣṇu-tattva,

2 - Viṣṇu-śakti-tattva,

3 - jīva-tattva,

like that". (Lecture on SB 6.2.7 -- Vrndavana, September 10, 1975)

Krsna has many different energies called sakti. The jiva-souls are one, Matter is one, the consort expansions of the Lord are one.

Srila Prabhupada - "Sakti or shakti means the "energy of Krsna."(Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 4 Chapter 6 text 43, Purport)

The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are parts and parcels of Krsna and are also the sakti energy of Krsna, along with other categories of living entities known as Viṣṇu-tattva and Visnu sakti-tattva expansions of Krsna.

However, the jiva-tattva souls are NOT on the same level as Krsna's direct expansions known as Viṣṇu-tattva and Visnu-sakti-tattva. 

Visnu-sakti-tattva is represented by Srimati Radharani Krsna's internal potency.

"Sakti" as Visnu-sakti-tattva individuals refers to Krsna's direct expansions within the internal potency.^

3 - Jiva-tattva souls (marginal living entities) who are independent personalities separate from Krsna's Personality, and endowed with "free will" and their own unique individual identity. The jiva-souls are all eternal like Krsna meaning they were NEVER created.

4 - Siva-tattva, who is neither Visnu-tattva or Jiva-tattva, he is in a league of his own and exists in each material universe of Brahma that is situated "deep inside" each Brahmanda universe that comes from the pores of Maha Visnu's skin and His breathing.

In Caitanya Caritamrita Prabhupada explains that Krsna created Radharani to experience the love of a women, which is a paradox because Radha and Krsna have eternally been together, have always existed just like the jiva-souls have too.

Although it may appear some living entities are created because some expansions manifest for a particular lila or pastime however, within the "eternal presence" of Krishna Consciousness their existence is without beginning or end.

Just like from the ONE Sun-disc, the sun-rays manifest and also exist simultaneously with the Sun-disc. 

This means Krsna and the living entities can NEVER exist without each other and are therefore eternal and were never created.

This is also how Krsna is fully complete AS Himself, who can NEVER be alone because Krsna is EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING resides in Him

Therefore Krsna is ALWAYS enjoying with His unlimited expansions who are eternally His parts and parcels, just like the Sun-disc is always shining because of the Sun's sun-rays that emanate from the Sun-disc.

Similarly just like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays CANNOT exist without each other, Krsna has no meaning without His devotees (parts and parcels)

However, that situation of Krsna being without His devotees (expansions) can NEVER exist.

This is because there was never a time Krsna or the living entities did not exist as Bhagavad Gita teaches-

"For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain". (Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 Text 20)

Srila Prabhupada – "There is NO new souls. New and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?''. (Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970)

The reason why Krsna is fully complete within Himself is understood in this way-

Krsna is NEVER alone as just "one", and has never been alone as "one" because EVERYTHING is situated in Him as "one AND simultaneously different" from Him.

This means Krsna is NOT "one-all-pervasive consciousness" flowing through all things where individuality only exists when the life force is embodied.

No this idea is Mayavadi impersonalists philosophy that denies Krsna as the Supreme individual PERSON, and all the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are also individual unique PERSONS.  

This further means there is always a two-way relationship between Krsna and the jiva-souls, with always a two-way exchanges based on voluntary reciprocal service. 

The fact is Krsna is simultaneously one individual Personality and at the same time "many independent Personalities also" such as His Visnu-tattva expansions. 

Krsna is simultaneously one and different and can NEVER be alone because He is already EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING is always part and parcel of Him.

Actually understanding this is inconceivable to the jiva-souls.  

Kṛṣṇa's closest associate is His eternal consort Srimati Rādhārāṇī who is the personification of His internal potency, Radharani eternally intensifies the pleasure of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, so how can He ever be alone? 

All the devotees of Krsna must win the attention of Radharani to get Krsna's attention, as all service to Krsna only reaches Him by going through Her.

Srila Prabhupada - "I offer my respects to Rādhārāṇī, whose bodily complexion is like molten gold and who is the Queen of Vṛndāvana. You are the daughter of King Vṛṣabhānu very dear to Lord Kṛṣṇa.

So if we approach Kṛṣṇa through Rādhārāṇī, through the mercy of Rādhārāṇī, then it becomes very easy. If Rādhārāṇī recommends that "This devotee is very nice," then Kṛṣṇa immediately accepts, however fool I may be. Because it is recommended by Rādhārāṇī, Kṛṣṇa accepts.

Therefore in Vṛndāvana you'll find all the devotees, they're chanting more Rādhārāṇī's name than Kṛṣṇa's. Wherever you'll go, you'll find the devotees are addressing, "Jaya Rādhe." You'll find still in Vṛndāvana. They are glorifying Rādhārāṇī. They're more interested, worshiping Rādhārāṇī. Because however fallen I may be, if some way or other I can please Rādhārāṇī, then it is very easy for me to understand Kṛṣṇa.

However, you go by the speculative process to understand Kṛṣṇa, it will take many, many lives. But if you take devotional service, just try to please Rādhārāṇī, and Kṛṣṇa will be gotten very easily. Because Rādhārāṇī can deliver Kṛṣṇa. She is so great devotee, the emblem of mahā-bhāgavata.

Even Kṛṣṇa cannot understand what is Rādhārāṇī's quality. Even Kṛṣṇa, although He says vedāhaṁ samatītāni (BG 7.26), "I know everything," still, He fails to understand Rādhārāṇī. Rādhārāṇī is so great.

Actually, Kṛṣṇa knows everything. In order to understand Rādhārāṇī, Kṛṣṇa accepted the position of Rādhārāṇī. Kṛṣṇa wanted to understand the potency of Rādhārāṇī. Kṛṣṇa thought that "I am full. I am complete in every respect, but still, I want to understand Rādhārāṇī. Why?" This propensity made Kṛṣṇa obliged to accept the propensities of Rādhārāṇī, to understand Kṛṣṇa, Himself.

These are, of course, very transcendental, great science. One who is advanced in Kṛṣṇa consciousness and well conversant with the śāstras, they can understand. But still, we can discuss from the śāstra. When Kṛṣṇa wanted to understand Himself, He took the tendency of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī. And that is Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Rādhā-bhāva-dyuti-suvalitam

Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Kṛṣṇa, but He has accepted the propensities of Rādhārāṇī. As Rādhārāṇī is always in feelings of separation of Kṛṣṇa, similarly, in the position of Rādhārāṇī, Lord Caitanya was feeling separation of Kṛṣṇa. That is the teachings of Lord Caitanya, feelings of separation, not meeting.

The process of devotional service taught by Caitanya Mahāprabhu and His disciplic succession is how to feel separation from Kṛṣṇa. That is Rādhārāṇī's position, ALWAYS feeling the separation". (Radhastami, Srimati Radharani's Appearance Day, London, August 29, 1971)

Srila Prabhupada - "Regarding your question about our relationship with Srimati Radharani, She is the internal energy, we are marginal energy. Marginal means sometimes internal, sometimes external. When we are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. Therefore, we are called marginal energy; we can be either this way or that way. But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt. (Letter to Lilavati, Allston, Mass 25 April, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "When Kṛṣṇa kills the demons outside Vṛndāvana, He is not original Kṛṣṇa; He is Vāsudeva. Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti (BG 7.19). When Kṛṣṇa is acting universally, that is Vāsudeva. Original Kṛṣṇa is ALWAYS in Vṛndāvana.

Jayatīrtha - "If the original Kṛṣṇa is always in Vṛndāvana, then why do the gopīs and Rādhārāṇī feel separation from Him?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That is here, in this material world. In the spiritual world Kṛṣṇa does not leave.

Jayatīrtha - "Oh".

Srila Prabhupāda - "And even in the material world, Kṛṣṇa superficially has gone to Mathurā, but He has captured the heart of the gopīs. So He is not leaving. Gopīs are enjoying Kṛṣṇa by separation. That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's feeling, how He is appreciating Kṛṣṇa by separation. (Morning Walk, July 17, 1975, San Francisco)

Guest - "Then what category is Radharani in?

Srila Prabhupada - "She is śakti, Cit-śakti. Bhagavān ke pleasure potency. Śakti, śakti-tattva, Śaktimān. Bhagavān is Śaktimān, and that śakti is Rādhārāṇī or Sītā or Lakṣmī. Durgā is also śakti, another feature of Rādhārāṇī".

Guest - "Śakti in original form is Rādhā?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes. Parāsya śaktih..., parāsya śaktir vividhaiva śrūyate (CC Madhya 13.65, purport). Originally cit-śakti. That cit-śakti is expanding. Just like we are..., rāmādi mūrtiṣu kalā-niyamena tiṣṭhan (Bs. 5.39). Kalā means part and parcel. So we are also part and parcel, but we are very small part and parcel. But rāmādi mūrti, they are bigger part and parcel.

Just like if you throw one brick on the floor, so there will be so many small particles, big particles, this particle, that. They are all part and parcel of the brick, but one part very small atomic part, and one big part, this part, this part, then this part, then this part. So all, Kṛṣṇa is the origin, and everyone is part and parcel. Some of them are bigger and some of them are smaller. So Viṣṇu-tattva is almost like Kṛṣṇa".

Guest - "Like Kṛṣṇa".

Srila Prabhupāda - "Others, they are very small. So according to the size, or according to the power..."

Guest - "Power".

Srila Prabhupāda - "The part and parcel exercises his position. Some of them are Viṣṇu-tattva, some of them are Jīva-tattva, some of them are Śakti-tattva and some of them para-tattva. Like that".

Guest - "Para-tattva?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Para-tattva is Bhagavān. Para-tattva means Kṛṣṇa, Rāma, Nārāyaṇa, Viṣṇu. These are all para-tattva. Bhagavān avatāra, rāmā, nṛsiṁha, varāha, kūrma, vāmana, daśāvatāra, all avatāra.

Or śakti-tattva, material energy, aparā-tattva, matter.

Similarly cit-tattva, spiritual world. The living entities, although they are in the material world, they belong to the spiritual world.

Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, apareyam. This material energy is inferior. It as viddhi me prakṛtiṁ parām. Beyond this material world is another, superior energy that includes jīva-bhūta and jiva-tattva". (Room Conversation, November 11, 1971, New Delhi)

This is the fullness of Lord Krsna's multiple energies.

This is why Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes because He is EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING is in Him.

Krsna is fully satisfied in Himself, that includes enjoying through all of His expansions that are His parts and parcels.

It is not that Krsna is just in our hearts, the fact is all Visnu-tattva expansions and jiva-souls are part and parcel of Krsna and are also within every atom.

Krsna is NEVER alone just like the Sun-disc can never be alone due to the presence of the surrounding sun-rays (sunshine)

Krsna is therefore compared to the Sun-disc and the different types of living entities are compared to the sun-rays.

The Sun-disc and the sun-rays cannot exist without each other, just like Krsna is always surrounded by His parts and parcels (the living entities) and has no meaning without them.

In this way, Krsna IS the Supreme Lord and simultaneously one with all that there is, but different and independent from all of His expansions too.

Krsna's eternal consort Srimati Rādhārāṇī is the manifestation of His pleasure potency and was created by Krsna so He could experience the loving intimate exchanges with a women.

Guest - "Srila Prabhupāda, are we expansions of Rādhā?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No. Rādhā is the internal potency, we are marginal potency. Of course, originally, in that sense, everything is Kṛṣṇa's expansion. Sarvaṁ khalv idaṁ brahma. But even there are expansions... That is the difference between Māyāvāda philosophy and Vaiṣṇava philosophy.

Caitanya Mahāprabhu teaches acintya bhedābheda. We are always simultaneously one and different. Always. We should remember we are expansion of Kṛṣṇa, we are expansion of Rādhā also because Rādhā is also expansion of Kṛṣṇa. But still, different. That is our philosophy - 

"One and different simultaneously - Acintya bhedābheda".

This is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's philosophy is "inconceivable simultaneously one and different". This is explained in the Seventh Chapter of Bhagavad-gītā As It Is. The energies and the energetic is the same. Śakti-śaktimator abheda.

Just like Sun-disc and the sunshine (sun-rays), they are the same. There is no difference. But the molecules of the sunshine particles, that is not equal to the sun. These truths we shall always remember. Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvāḥ. Therefore these are inconceivable. We are simultaneously one with Kṛṣṇa and Rādhā, and at the same time different". (Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Montreal, June 10, 1968)

Srila Prabhupada - "Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are "one and the same", but They have assumed two bodies. Thus They enjoy each other, tasting the mellows of love. The two transcendentalists Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are a puzzle to materialists. The description of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa from the diary of Śrīla Svarūpa Dāmodara Gosvāmī is a condensed explanation, but one needs great spiritual insight to understand the mystery of these two personalities.

One is enjoying in two.

Śrī Kṛṣṇa is the potent factor, and Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the internal potency. According to Vedānta philosophy, there is no difference between the potent and the potency; they are identical. We cannot differentiate between one and the other, any more than we can separate fire from heat.

Everything in the Absolute is inconceivable in relative existence. Therefore in relative cognizance it is very difficult to assimilate this truth of the oneness between the potent and the potency. The philosophy of inconceivable oneness and difference propounded by Lord Caitanya is the only source of understanding for such intricacies of transcendence.

In fact, Rādhārāṇī is the internal potency of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, and She eternally intensifies the pleasure of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. 

Impersonalists cannot understand this without the help of a mahā-bhāgavata devotee. 

The very name “Rādhā” suggests that Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is eternally the topmost mistress of the comforts of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. As such, She is the medium transmitting the living entities’ service to Śrī Kṛṣṇa.

Devotees in Vṛndāvana therefore seek the mercy of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī in order to be recognized as loving servitors of Śrī Kṛṣṇa". (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.56, Translation and Purport)

All the devotees of Krishna must win the attention of Radharani to get Krsna's attention, as all service to Krsna only reaches Krsna by going through Her.

Srila Prabhupada - "When Krsna wants to be attracted by a woman, He has to create such a woman from His own energy. That woman is Rādhārāṇī". (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3 Chapter 31 text 38 Purport)

Krsna divided Himself into "two" so He could experience loving exchanges. For even Krsna, love can NEVER exist when there is just "one", there MUST be His expansions like Srimati Radharani and His Visnu-tattva and jiva-tattva expansions.

To experience loving exchanges and emotions with a women, Krsna divided Himself into two, Srimati Radharani and Krsna.

Krsna wanted to experience loving emotions and affection with a women, this is why He divided Himself into "two - Radha and Krsna", just so He could experience those loving exchanges.

Madhudviṣa Swami - "Śrīla Prabhupāda, you spoke of inferior energy and superior energy. Those are two general categories. Are there other categories of energies besides that, and specifically how could we understand Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī Is She?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "She is spiritual energy".

Madhudviṣa Swami - "But is She jīva-bhūta or?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, no, no. She is Kṛṣṇa. If everything is Kṛṣṇa and Rādhārāṇī is not Kṛṣṇa, what is that? Kṛṣṇa. He (She) is Kṛṣṇa. She is the Kṛṣṇa's pleasure potency".

Madhudviṣa Swami - "She is not jīva?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, no, no. She is Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa divided Himself into His energy and Himself. That energy, original spiritual energy, is Rādhārāṇī. That is stated by Jīva Gosvāmī. Rādhā kṛṣṇa-praṇaya-vikṛtir hlādinī śaktir asmāt. When Kṛṣṇa wants pleasure, He cannot accept the inferior energy. 

The same superior energy, Kṛṣṇa, is divided into two. That is Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa. And again, when they unite, that is Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Divided, they are Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa, and united, Caitanya Mahāprabhu. 

Śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya rādhā-kṛṣṇa nahe anya. Anya means another. 

So Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya is combination of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa. And when they are divided into two, that is Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa. This is the purport. Rādhā kṛṣṇa-praṇaya-vikṛtir hlādinī śaktir asmād ekātmānāv api bhuvi purā deha-bhedaṁ gatau tau, śrī-caitanyākhyaṁ prakaṭam adhunā tad-dvayaṁ caikyam āptam [Cc. Ādi 1.5]. These are the conclusion. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa combination. But He is playing the part of Rādhārāṇī to understand Kṛṣṇa. This is Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Rādhārāṇī is the chief gopī and all Her young girl friends, they are also gopīs. (Lecture on SB 2.1.1-5 -- Melbourne, June 26, 1974)

"Rādhikā is the transformation of Kṛṣṇa’s love. She is His internal energy called hlādinī". (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.59, Translation)

Srila Prabhupada - "mind, senses and body are steeped in love for Kṛṣṇa. She is Kṛṣṇa’s own energy, and She helps Him in His pastimes. Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is as fully spiritual as Kṛṣṇa. No one should consider Her to be material. She is definitely not like the conditioned souls, who have material bodies, gross and subtle, covered by material senses. She is all-spiritual, and both Her body and Her mind are of the same spiritual embodiment. 

Because Her body is spiritual, Her senses are also spiritual. Thus Her body, mind and senses fully shine in love of Kṛṣṇa. She is the personified hlādinī-śakti (the pleasure-giving energy of the Lord’s internal potency), and therefore She is the only source of enjoyment for Śrī Kṛṣṇa.

Śrī Kṛṣṇa cannot enjoy anything that is internally different from Him. Therefore Rādhā and Śrī Kṛṣṇa are identical. The sandhinī portion of Śrī Kṛṣṇa’s internal potency has manifested the all-attractive form of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, and the same internal potency, in the hlādinī feature, has presented Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī, who is the attraction for the all-attractive. No one can match Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī in the transcendental pastimes of Śrī Kṛṣṇa". (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 4.71, Translation and Purport)

"Just as the fountainhead, Lord Kṛṣṇa, is the cause of all incarnations, so Śrī Rādhā is the cause of all these consorts". (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.76, Translation)

"Rādhā is the one who gives pleasure to Govinda, and She is also the enchantress of Govinda. She is the be-all and end-all of Govinda, and the crest jewel of all His consorts". (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.82, Translation)

"The transcendental goddess Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the direct counterpart of Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa. She is the central figure for all the goddesses of fortune. She possesses all the attractiveness to attract the all-attractive Personality of Godhead. She is the primeval internal potency of the Lord". (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 4.83, Translation)

Srila Prabhupada - "When Krsna wants to be attracted by a woman, He has to create such a woman from His own energy. That woman is Rādhārāṇī. It is explained by the Gosvāmīs that Rādhārāṇī is the manifestation of the pleasure potency of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. When the Supreme Lord wants to derive transcendental pleasure, He has to create a woman from His internal potency and that women is Srimati Radharani" (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3 Chapter 31 text 38, Purport)

Krsna divided Himself into "two" just so He could experience loving exchanges with a women and gave Her the name Srimati Radharani.

Love can only exist when there are "two or more" involved in loving reciprocations and exchanges. 

Srila Prabhupada - ''We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be "one" or love cannot be executed only one, there must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love''. (Lecture on Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 1 Chapter 2 text 6, Delhi, November 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupāda – ''Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there". (August 9, 1976, Tehran)

However, Krsna is ALWAYS complete in Himself and is NEVER alone because within Krsna is EVERYTHING, and therefore can become two personalities or more anytime likes.

For example, Krsna is always enjoying in Vrindavana with His consort Srimati Radharani, who Krsna created by dividing Himself into two, just so He could experience loving exchanges with a women.

In this way Krsna is "FULLY COMPLETE" as Himself and simultaneously AS His unlimited expansions who are existing all within Him. 

Everything in the Spiritual Sky comes under Kṛṣṇa's durisdiction

In other words, just like the sun-disc is ONLY fully complete surrounded by the sun-rays (sunshine) Krsna's full potential of loving expressions is naturally fully complete when surrounded by His loving devotees headed by Srimati Radharani.

This is what it means when it is said Krsna is fully complete within Himself.

Krsna is "FULLY COMPLETE" as Himself enjoying unlimited pastimes with-

1 - With His internal energy headed by Srimati Radharani. (Visnu-sakti-tattva) 

2 - His Visnu-tattva expansions throughout the Vaikuntha Planets (unlimited Visnu/Narayana expansions each with their own unique name) 

Both Visnu-sakti-tattvas and Visnu-tattvas have 93.75% of Krsna’s qualities which is having 60 of Krsna's 64 qualities.

The above two categories ARE direct expansions of Krsna where He is playing a different role within His own pastimes.

3 - His Siva-tattva expansions (there are many personalities who are actually expansions of Siva) Siva is NOT jiva-tattva soul or Visnu-tattva.

4 - His jiva-tattva expansions (marginal living entities) also known as the jiva-souls)

These two (Siva-tattva and the jiva-souls) are NOT God meaning they are NOT Visnu-sakti-tattva (internal potency) or Visnu-tattva. 

Siva (84.375% of Krsna's qualities, having 55 of Krsna's 64 attributes)

The jiva-souls (78.125% of Krsna's qualities having 50 of Krsna's 64 attributes) are NOT God.

Both Siva and the individual jiva-souls have independent personalities separate from Krsna's Personality, so they can NEVER become God (Visnu-tattva) because they are NOT equal to God in anyway.

However, they are ALWAYS dependent on Krsna the Supreme Personality of Godhead and maintainer and cause of ALL causes as His parts and parcels because nothing can be separated from Krsna in that sense even though they have a separate identity and personality from Krsna's Personality. 

These living entities manifest as different categories of Krsna's energies, and can NEVER be separated from Krsna because they ARE Krsna's expansions, just like the "Sun-rays can NEVER exist separately from the "Sun-disc".

But His greatest pleasure comes from Srimati Radharani His eternal consort.

Krsna is NEVER alone due to EVERYTHING being completely situated within Him.

This is because Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

"The cause of ALL causes" is significant here - meaning EVERYTHING is Krsna.

Krsna is "simultaneously one and different", as an independent individual Person, and as His different expansions also. 

Krsna is EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING is part and parcel of Krsna, this is the top most expression and realization of Krsna's full potential that makes Him the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes who is naturally fully satisfied in Himself BECAUSE EVERYTHING is Him yet simultaneously different from Him making Krsna fully complete, always satisfied and NEVER alone.

This obviously means ALL His different expansions (Visnu-tattva, Visnu-sakti-tattva and jiva-tattva souls) are His part and parcels.

Krsna IS the Supreme Personal Lord (God) as His own individual bodily (vigraha) Form, yet simultaneously ALL other living entities too who expand from Him like the sun-rays radiate from the Sun-disc, for example-

Srila Prabhupada - "Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa are "one and the same", but They have assumed two bodies. Thus They enjoy each other, tasting the mellows of love. One is enjoying in two, we cannot differentiate between one and the other, any more than we can separate fire from heat. The philosophy of inconceivable oneness and difference propounded by Lord Caitanya is the only source of understanding for such intricacies of transcendence. In fact, Rādhārāṇī is the internal potency of Śrī Kṛṣṇa, and She eternally intensifies the pleasure of Śrī Kṛṣṇa.

Impersonalists cannot understand this without the help of a mahā-bhāgavata devotee. The very name “Rādhā” suggests that Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is eternally the topmost mistress of the comforts of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. As such, She is the medium transmitting the living entities’ service to Śrī Kṛṣṇa. Devotees in Vṛndāvana therefore seek the mercy of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī in order to be recognized as loving servitors of Śrī Kṛṣṇa". (Caitanya Caritamrita Adi 4.56, Translation and Purport)

Srila Prabhupada - "When Krsna wants to be attracted by a woman, He has to create such a woman from His own energy. That woman is Rādhārāṇī". (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 3 Chapter 31 text 38 Purport)

As already explained, devotees must win the attention of Srimati Radharani to get Krsna's favour, as all service only reaches Krsna through Her.**.

Voluntary association of servitude in the Kingdom of God is only fully achieved when "two" are involved in loving reciprocal exchanges nurtured and encouraged by Krsna.

In the Spiritual world's of Goloka-Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets, loving devotional service is never a one-way or one-sided affair.

No, real loving exchanges or service is always expressed in a reciprocal voluntary two-way exchange in God's (Krsna) Kingdom.

In Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana personal voluntary expressions of loving exchanges are always encouraged by Krsna in His relationship with the jiva-souls. 

This two-way relationship adds flavour, variety and mystery to the association.

This means the Kingdom of God is not a one-sided dictatorial dominating domain devoid of free will that only denies personal contributions or offerings to God (Krsna), meant to expand, enrich and flavour the relationship.

Voluntary association with Krsna in His Kingdom can only be realized in a loving way.

Only achieved when "two" are involved in reciprocal exchanges nurtured and encouraged by Krsna.

As said above, love or service is never a one-sided affiliate of total supremacy or preeminence. 

Genuine loving relationships and service are based on voluntary reciprocal exhanges and contributions between two, not just one!

The individual jiva-souĺs also have their voluntary contributions too, or can even reject Krsna if they choose.

Free will only has meaning when the jiva-souls can express themselves in a two-sided affair.

In other words loving reciprocation is only possible on a two-way street between two, with each contributing to the relationship's expansion of nectarine mellows.

The word reciprocation only has meaning when there are two involved, not one!

As said above, this means the individual jiva-souls can reject Krsna if they choose, which in a sense proves that "free will" does truly exist.

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will." (Philosophy Discussions with Rene Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot become fall down, that is not independence. That is force." (Mayapur, June 20, 1973)

Having free will is fundamentally the eternal constitutional right of every marginal living entity or jiva-soul, and the foundation for their relationship with Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - ''As soon as we try, Oh, this material world is very nice, yes, Kṛṣṇa says, yes, you go otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will and Kṛṣṇa is so kind, He gives the opportunity - 'All right, you enjoy like this.' It is free will." (Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course, May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

Devotee – "In Srimad Bhagavatam it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?" Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?" 

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence, your free will. That is force, in Bengali it is said, "If you catch one girl or boy and demand you love me, you love me, you love me. Is that love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you! Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, at the threat of revolver, you love me, otherwise I shall kill you! That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love, not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C)

Srila Prabhupada - ''Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from them, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No, it is not good, that is not love, that is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and I don't offer anything in return, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture on BG Chapter 9 text 2-5, New York, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - ''We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or executed only by one, there must be another one, there must be two. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, then there is love." (SB Canto 1 Chapter 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - ''The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back, that is Kṛṣṇa's attempt, "Please, My dear boy or girl, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (SB Canto 2 Chapter 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Devotee – "Is the original body of the jiva-soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form, God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible, is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs"

Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first] Yes, they are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary. Some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want that, to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna as flower, voluntarily, and he can change from flower to human body, that is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)

All individual personal contributions from the jiva-souls are forever expanding due to their unique eternal independent constitutional quality of self expression in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana. 

This allows the jiva-souls to always make their own voluntary offerings to Krsna if they choose that forever increase and expand their loving emotions in healthy two-way exchange with Krsna.

We must never forget that Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, if we properly understand this, then we will understand the following discussion that everything comes from Krsna including free will-

Swedish man - ''Is there free will?''

Srila Prabhupada - ''Yes, just like you are sitting here. If you don’t like, you can go away. That’s your free will. There is free will, we are part and parcel of God, therefore we have got minute quantity of freedom." (Temple lecture Stockholm Sweden)

Srila Prabhupada - ''Every individual jiva-soul is awarded a portion of independence because each is part and parcel of God. Thus also has the quality of independence, but in minute quantity. That is his individuality.'' 

Syamasundara dasa - ''Is Krsna within each atom as an individual entity different from every other entity?

Srila Prabhupada - ''Yes, Krsna (as Visnu) is there, He is always an individual. There are varieties of atoms and sometimes they are combined together each with their own Visnu."

Syamasundara dasa - ''How is each Krsna different? How is it He is an individual in each of the atoms?"

Srila Prabhupada - ''Why do you think He not an individual? Krsna is always an individual, He is always a person, the Supreme Person, and He can expand Himself innumerably."

Syamasundara dasa - ''So Paramatma (Visnu) is a "Person?"

Srila Prabhupada - ''Yes, every expansion is an individual Person. We are all atomic expansions of Krsna, and we are all individual persons. Paramatma is another expansion, but that is a different kind of expansion."

Syamasundara dasa - ''Are the jiva-souls also individual persons?"

Srila Prabhupada - ''Yes, if he were not a person, then how would you account for the differences? We are all different persons. You may agree with my opinion or not, but in any case you are an individual. Krsna also is an individual. Nityo nityanam. There are innumerable individual souls, but He is the Supreme lndividual Person."

Syamasundara dasa - ''So even within material atom there is spiritual life, a spiritual force?"

Srila Prabhupada - ''Yes, force means spiritual force."

Syamasundara dasa - ''But even within the dead body there are forces. There is the force of decomposition and decay."

Srila Prabhupada - ''Krsna is within the atom, and the body is a combination of so many atoms; therefore the force for creating other living entities is also there even in the process of decomposition. When the individual jiva-soul's force is stopped within a particular material body, we call that body a dead body. Still, Krsna's force is there because the material body is a combination of atoms. 

The ultimate desire is to attain Krsna's abode. If you take it in that way, Krsna is within every atom, and therefore Krsna wants whatever is to be. Therefore He wills that these two elements become one, and therefore the molecules combine to create water, or whatever. Thus there is a creation, and again there is another creation, and so on. In any case, the ultimate brain governing all creation is Krsna."

Syamasundara dasa - ''Does the individual jiva-souls have a little independence to choose?"

Srila Prabhupada - ''No (not without the sanction of Krsna) Bhagavad-Gita states that when the individual jivs-soul wants to act, Krsna gives the orders. Man proposes, and God disposes."

Syamasundara dasa - ''So we have no free will?"

Srila Prabhupada - ''Not without the sanction of Krsna. Without Him, we cannot do anything. Therefore He is the ultimate cause."

Syamasundara dasa - ''But I thought you have been saying that we have a little independence."

Srila Prabhupada - ''We have the independence in the sense that we may deny or affirm, but unless Krsna gives sanctions, we cannot do anything." (Dialectical Spiritualism: A Vedic View of Western Philosophy)

This simply confirms everything comes from Krsna and what ever the jiva-souls do must be sanctioned by Krsna, including free will because Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

However, in most instances Krsna will always sanctions free will because without free will the jiva-souls could never voluntary choose to contribute as an independent thinking individual in their relationship with Krsna in a "two-way" exchange.

So without free will the spiritual worlds would be an impersonal stagnant unproductive place no better than dead stone!

Paramahaṁsa -''So we can come to the spiritual world and return?''

Prabhupāda -''Yes."

Paramahaṁsa - ''Fall down?''

Srila Prabhupada - ''Yes, as soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is very nice, yes Kṛṣṇa says, yes, you go, otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will. And Kṛṣṇa is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you enjoy like this." It is free will." (Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course, May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

Bali Mardana - ''An example of free will is someone can choose Kṛṣṇa or turn away? Is that example of free will?''

Srila Prabhupāda - ''Yes, because if you accept Kṛṣṇa, then you must follow what Kṛṣṇa says. If you don't follow Kṛṣṇa, then what is the use of talking about Kṛṣṇa? 

Kṛṣṇa says, satataṁ kīrtayanto mām: (BG 9.14) 

"Always chanting about Me is the mahātmā." 

Satataṁ kīrtayanto māṁ yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ (BG 9.14). Mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ: (BG 9.13) 

"Mahātmā, those who are devotee, they are not under these material influence. If he accepts Kṛṣṇa, he must abide by the injunction of Kṛṣṇa." (Morning Walk, January 22, 1974, Hawaii)

It is very important to understand that the individual jiva-souls are all "Persons", each with their own unique individual voluntary contributions expressed fully in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana. 

For loving service to truly exist, each jiva-soul must be able to express their free will by making their own choices, their own decisions, even if it means rejecting Krsna, otherwise there can be no question of being able to voluntarily express themselves as an individual and experience loving exchanges and service."

Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

This quality of free will is part and parcel of the jiva-soul's marginal constitution that allows them to be an independent free thinking expansion of the Krsna. 

Therefore the "marginal living entity" (jiva-soul) also means having "free will" that is included when describing the qualities of the individual jiva-souls. 

As said above, Krsna allows this freedom the jiva-souls have because without free will loving exchanges, personal offerings and a two-way reciprocal relationship could never exist.

Srila Prabhupada – "You have got little independence therefore you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God you have got independence, proportionately, therefore if he likes he can return to the material atmosphere. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We can misuse that." (Mayapur, February 19, 1976)

Having free will is the constitutional make up of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) that is eternally part and parcel of their individual character and personality in the spiritual worlds.

This means the jiva-souls can choose to leave the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana if they choose, at anytime, it is nonsense to claim the jiva-souls can never again fall down once in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana.

This is because free will always allows the choice to choose, and without the ability to voluntarily choose, there is no question of loving exchanges.

So the choice to even leave Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana is possible because Krsna allows a two-way relationship where one can accept or reject Krsna if they choose.

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is free will He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing,m is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Talk with Rene Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that free will means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence; that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Some wrongly claim there are two types of jiva-souls- 

1 - One who stays in the Vaikuṇṭha and Goloka Vṛndāvana and never has a choice  to go to the material creation (nitya-siddha)

2 - And the other in the material creation (nitya-baddha) who can also be dormant (inactive) in the impersonal Brahmajyoti. But can enter the Spiritual worlds too, but once there can never fall down, so they claim.

Such impersonal division of the jiva-soul is bogus nonsense.

There is only one type of jiva-soul, who has two-sides to their individual personality, nitya-siddha (eternally liberated) and nitya-baddha (eternally conditioned) 

So where is the jiva-soul's original home? And from where are they all coming from?

Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krsnaloka (Goloka-Vrindavana). When one forgets Krsna he is conditioned (nitya-baddha), when one remembers Krsna he is liberated (nitya-siddha)." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)

As said above there are no two types of the jiva-tattvas (jiva-souls) that some other sangas wrongly claim, there is only "one" type of jiva-soul who can be either nitya-baddha (eternally conditioned) or nitya-siddha (eternally liberated) 

Srila Prabhupada – "The answer to your question about the marginal energy is that the jiva-soul is always called the marginal energy whether he is in the spiritual world or in the material world." (Letter to Rayarama, December 2, 1968)

The point is emphasised here to make it clear that only one kind of jiva-soul exists who are originally nitya-siddha (eternally liberated) but can become nitya-baddha (conditioned in the material world or dormant in the impersonal Brahmajyoti)

As said above, there is only one category of jiva-soul that can be either (by choice) nitya-siddha (eternally liberated) or nitya-baddha (eternally conditioned)

Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krsnaloka. When one forgets Krsna he is conditioned (nitya baddha), when one remembers Krsna he is liberated (nitya-siddha)." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "There are two kinds of marginal living entities: nitya-siddha and nitya-baddha. The actual constitutional position of every marginal living entity is nitya-siddha. (CC lecture, July 13, 1976) 

Srila Prabhupada - "By following the rules and regulations and instructions of the spiritual master, he can become again nitya-siddha. So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha" (New York Lecture on Caitanya Caritamrta, July 13, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - "So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha, to bring them to their original position. It is a difficult task." (London lecture on Bhagavad-Gita 13-14, July 14, 1973).***.

The human society at the present moment is NOT in the darkness of oblivion.

Srila Prabhupada - "The human society at the present moment is NOT in the darkness of oblivion. 

It has made rapid progress in the field of material comforts of life, education and economic development of the entire world.

But it suffers a pin-prick somewhere in the social body at large and therefore there is large scale quarrel even on less important issues.

Therefore there is the want of the clue as to how they can become one in peace, friendship and prosperity by the common cause. 

Srimad Bhagavatam will fill up this gap by ontological aspect of human education.

It is therefore a cultural presentation for re-spiritualisation of the entire human society." (Śrīmad Bhāgavatam Preface)

Ultimately LOVE is not a one-way street, real love is based on voluntary reciprocal loving exhanges between two, not just one.

The individual jiva-souĺs have THEIR choices too, even if that choice means rejecting Krsna.

This is because loving reciprocation is only possible on a two-way street between two with each contributing to the relationship.

This also means the jiva-souls are allowed to reject Krsna to establish that free will DOES truly exist.

Only impersonalists preach that "surrender" means giving up your free will, individuality, independent contributions, personal opinions and unique offerings, and just become "little "mindless" Krsna imitaters"

No, such immature surrender is nonsense impersonalism.

If Krsna forced His will and dominance on the jiva-souls, denying them there ability to contribute personal offerings, suggestions and services that enhance and enrich a relationship of reciprocation, then they would be no better than dead useless stone Prabhupada warns us.

Such forceful one-way, "don't think and just do as I say" demands by a dogmatic impersonal so called God, will only totally destroy the jiva-soul's independent quality of self expression, voluntary contributions and personal unique offerings.

And if Krsna DID force His will on the jiva-souls, FORCING them to love Him and only do what He wants and demands, denying a two-way exchange, then how can that be real genuine love?

How can any loving relationship be based on "surrender" meaning just always being told how to think and what to do?

Such forced surrender to follow Krsna's will is tyranny! 

However, the fact is Krsna is NOT like that at all Prabhupada explains here.

Devotee – "If Krsna did not want us to come to the material world, then why are we here?”

Srila Prabhupada - “That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? 

So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C)

Therefore by forcing the jiva-souls to comply is interfering with the jiva-soul's free will.

The fact is Krsna will NEVER make decisions for the jiva-souls, otherwise their free will is violated.

There can be no question of love if the jiva-soul has no free will to choose for themselves.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Free will is never surrendered in the Spiritual World as some fools believe because without free will there can NEVER be love. 

Surrender must be voluntary that includes personal unique (your own individual offerings) contributions.

Free will is eternally part and parcel of the jiva-souls natural constitutional make-up and therefore ALWAYS exists without beginning or end on all the Spiritual Planets.

Therefore free will in its full potential is ONLY fully experienced in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan (the Spiritual Worlds), which is the jiva-soul's original perpetual home.

The material creation is an alien unnatural environment for the jiva-souls and they should not be there in the material creation or the impersonal Brahmajyoti.

The relationship with Krsna is NEVER a one-way dictatorship, it is never impersonal, one's relationship with Krsna is always based on reciprocation and loving exchanges.

The jiva-souls in their full potential in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are forever choosing to expand their individual expression of personal offerings to Krsna in their relationship with Him.

Such a relationship is NEVER impersonal, one-sided or one-way because Krsna always reciprocates with such genuine loving effection with His devotees.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Real love can NEVER exist on a "one-way or one-sided" impersonal path, where that one-sided affair only allows a "none contributing" version of so called "surrender" to Krsna (God).

This kind of "impersonal surrender" only "extinguishes" the jiva-soul's individuality, free-will, and their ability to contribute or provide offerings in their own unique way.

From personal "self invented contributions" that Krsna is surprised by and impressed by, because they enrich, flavour and intensify the mystery of loving exchanges between the jiva-souls and Krsna.

To Krsna it is all lila or pastime because technically He knows everything but plays a part to satisfy His devotees.

All the personal unique contributions by the jiva-soul's "expressions from free will", forever expands their personal ability to make voluntary offerings that forever increase their loving emotions for Krsna in a healthy "two-way" exchange of reciprocation between Kṛṣṇa and the individual jīva-souls.

It is VERY important to understand the jiva-souls are "PERSONS" with individual feelings and ALWAYS have the right of self expression in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.

It must be clearly understood for love to truly exist, each jiva-soul MUST have their free will to make their own choices, even if it means leaving Krsna if they choose, otherwise there can be no question of genuine love or service.

Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

This quality or attribute of free will is part of the jiva-soul's marginal constitutional nature, as an independent free thinking part and parcels expansion of the Krsna.

Krsna allows this freedom that all jiva-souls have because without free will loving exchanges and reciprocation can NEVER exist.

Srila Prabhupada – “You have got little independence therefore you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God you have got independence, proportionately, therefore if he likes he can return. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We CAN misuse that. (Mayapur, February 19, 1976)

Having "free will" is the constitutional make up of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) that is ALWAYS part and parcel of their eternal character and personality in the Spiritual Worlds.

This means the jiva-souls can even choose to leave the Vaikuntha Planets or Goloka-Vrindavana if they want.

Free will always allows this and if it didn't then there is no question of loving exchanges.

This is why it is foolish that big, big sannyasis and gurus in some other sangas ( religious cults) claim once entering the Spiritual Worlds the jiva-souls can never leave or down again.

No, they CAN fall down again and again if they choose to do so!

And as said above, such choices or fall downs have nothing to do with Maya (material energy) because Maya does not exist in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana.

It is simply the misuse of free will that is the cause of fall down.

The choice to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana is possible because Krsna allows a "two-way" relationship, this means one can accept or reject Krsna if they choose to do so.

Srila Prabhupada  - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly".

Srila Prabhupada -"Yes", but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will. (Talk with Rene Descartes)

Syamasundara - "But can we predict returning back home back to Godhead will be permanent? Can we predict that? Just like many prisoners leave the prison, however some do come back?''

Srila Prabhupada - "No, there is no permanent effect because we have got little independence. There is nothing permanent because you can misuse your independence at any time".

Syamasundara - "And some come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes. Otherwise there is no meaning of independence. Independence means you can do this, you can do that. "All right. Whatever you like."

Devotee - "Then he is so many times falling down, again and again, so will he eventually permanently come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "He has got independence, therefore there is always the possibility he can misuse his independence, he CAN fall down. That's why when a man is released from the prison house, that does not mean permanently because he can come back again, the general law is NOT to come back, but if he likes, he can come back, otherwise what is the meaning of independence? Just like one becomes free from the prison house, naturally he should not go there again". (Talk with Syamasundara and Henri Bergson)^^^

In the spiritual world's of Goloka-Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets, loving devotional service to Krsna and Visnu is never a "one-way or one-sided" dictatorial affair, no, real love or service to Krsna is ALWAYS voluntary and based on wonderful loving exchanges.

Voluntary service in the Kingdom of God (Krsna) is only genuinely expressed in a "two-way" reciprocation of loving exchanges.

Krsna will ALWAYS sanction "free will," which means voluntarily using one's abilities to choose how they want to serve Kṛṣṇa.

Without free will, the jiva-souls can never participate in voluntarily expressing their unique love for Kṛṣṇa that enrich and expand the relationship by adding varigatedness.

The jiva-soul's (marginal living entities) relationship with Krsna, is naturally a "two-way" partnership that allows shared loving exchanges with Krsna based on reciprocation and voluntary cooperation.

Krsna gives the jiva-souls "free will" for the purpose to allow love to exist which means of allowing a "two-way" to participation by having loving exchanges. 

Such loving exchanges can NEVER exist with just "one" making all the decisions, not even Krsna.  

Love can only exist in a "two-way" exchange of intimate expressions. Only a "two-sided" cooperation expands one's unique individual voluntary contributions presented to Krsna as personal offerings.

In Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana, personal expressions of loving exchanges expressed by only having free will, are ALWAYS encouraged by Krsna in His relationship with the jiva-souls, that add flavour, variety and mystery to the association.

This means the Kingdom of God (Krsna's abode)) is NOT a "one-sided" dominating impersonal stagnant domain devoid of personal offerings (free will) that denies personal contributions (offerings) to God (Krsna), meant to expand, enrich and forever flavour the relationship with Kṛṣṇa with unlimited variety.

As said above, LOVE or service is NOT a "one-sided" affiliate of total supremacy or pre-eminence. 

The fact is, genuine loving relations and service are based on voluntary reciprocal exchanges and contributions between TWO, not just one!

The individual jiva-souĺs have THEIR choices too, EVEN if that choice means rejecting Krsna!

Free will ONLY has meaning when the jiva-souls can express themselves in a "two-sided" voluntary affair.

In other words, loving reciprocation is ONLY possible in a "two-way" exchange between two individuals with each contributing to the relationship's expansion of nectarine mellows.

The word "reciprocation" only has meaning when there are TWO involved, not one!

This also means the individual jiva-souls CAN reject Krsna if they choose, which in a sense proves that "free will" DOES truly exist.

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will." (Philosophy Discussions - Rene Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot become fall down, that is not independence. That is force." (Mayapur, June 20, 1973)

Having "free will" is the eternal constitutional make up of EVERY "marginal living entity (jiva-soul)," and is the foundation that begins ALL the jiva-soul's interactions with Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupāda – "Love means a relationship between "two-persons," then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No, it is not good. That is NOT love, that is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and don't offer you anything in return, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only by one, there must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then there is love." (SB, Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is also form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2.14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form, God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes, they are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotees want to serve Krsna as flower; so they become flower there. If I want that, to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, then he become flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4, Melbourne, May 20, 1975)

The full potential of the jiva-souls is bodily form always active in Krsna's pastimes and NOT some impersonal formless spark dormant or inactive in Krsna's Bodily effulgence (the impersonal aspect of the brahmajyoti)

Srila Prabhupada – “The human form is the full manifestation of the jiva-soul.” (Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is NOT formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture on BG 2.14 - Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "What is the form of the spiritual body. If the spirit soul is non-material, what is the form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG 2.14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "Śrīla Prabhupāda, you state that spirit soul has form."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Devotee - "Otherwise, how is the material body grown to accommodate the spirit soul? Just like a shirt has no form, but when it's put on the body, it takes the shapes of the body. Does that mean that the spirit soul has the shape of the body that is accommodating it?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, you have got body, a shape, very minute shape that we cannot see, we cannot measure. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, "anumeyam," what is that word used? Aprameyam, you cannot measure but it has a form. What is the length and breadth of that form? That is not in your power, but it is not material. If you have spiritual power then you can measure it. And that measurement is also given in the śāstra. What is that? One ten-thousandth part of the tip of the hair. Hair is a very small point. And divide it into ten thousand parts. That one part is the measure, magnitude of the soul.

keśāgra-śata-bhāgasya

śatadhā kalpitasya ca

jīva-bhāgaḥ sa vijñeyaḥ

sa cānantyāya kalpate

(CC Madhya 19.140)

Everything is there. But you have no eyes to see, how to see one ten-thousandth portion of the top of the hair? You cannot see even the original top of the hair. Everything is there. We must have the proper eyes." (Lecture SB, Canto 1 Ch 16 text 24 - Hawaii, Jan 20, 1974)

Hayagrīva dasa - "Aquinas believed that God is the only single essence that consists of pure form. He felt that matter is only a potential and, in order to be real, must assume a certain shape or form. 

"Being in the universe have to acquire an individual form in order to actualize themselves. When matter unites with form, the form gives an object its individuality and personality. A bodily form gives an object its individuality and personality."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, the matter has no form. The spirit soul has got form. Though the matter is covering the actual form of the spirit soul, the matter appears to have form. Just like the original cloth has no form, but when the tailor cuts the cloth according to the body of the person, then the shirt and coat takes a form. The matter itself has no form. When you take clay, it has no form, but if you make it like a doll, like a man or woman, then it has a form. When the change the clay, and you manufacture a fort, then the fort has form. So form and formlessness is of the matter, but in the spiritual world everything has got form. The spirit soul has got form. God has got form. This is the truth."

Hayagrīva dasa - "Aquinas believed that only God and the angels have form that is not material. There is no difference between God's form and His spiritual self."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, as in the material world any form-man or beast or anyone—in the outward, external covering is matter, but within the matter there is the soul. The soul has form and God has form. That is real form. And the material form is simply shirting and coating over the spiritual body." (Philosophy Discussion on Thomas Aquinas)

Hayagrīva dasa - "He considered that matter was necessary to give the soul form."

Srila Prabhupāda - "No, he has got his original form."

Hayagrīva dasa - "Original form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes."

Hayagrīva dasa - "Which is the form of the body."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Original form (like Krsna's Bodily, that is the form of the spirit."

Hayagrīva dasa - "Of the spirit."

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, and the form of the body takes place on account of the form of the spirit. This is very nice example. The cloth has no form, but when it is cut according to the form of the gentleman, it takes a form. Similarly, matter has no form. When it is coated on the spiritual form of the soul, it takes the form. This is very easy to understand." (Philosophy Discussion on Thomas Aquinas beliefs)

All the individual personal contributions offered by the surrendered jiva-souls, are forever coming from their expanding unique ability of self expression and constantly re-inventing themselves in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana.

This allows the jiva-souls to always make voluntary offerings to Krsna that forever increase and expand loving emotions in healthy "two-way" exchange between Kṛṣṇa and the individual jīva-souls.

It is VERY important to understand that the individual jiva-souls are "PERSONS" with their own unique individual actions of self expression expanding always in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.

It must be clearly understood, for love to truly exist, each jiva-soul MUST have the free will to make their own choices, even if it means leaving Krsna if they choose, otherwise there can be no question of genuine loving service.

Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

This quality or attribute of free will is part and parcel of the jiva-soul's marginal constitutional nature, as an independent free thinking part and parcel expansion of the Krsna.

Krsna allows this freedom for all jiva-souls have because without free will loving exchanges, voluntary contributions and reciprocation would NEVER exist.

Srila Prabhupada – "You have got little independence therefore you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God you have got independence, proportionately, therefore if he likes he can return. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We CAN misuse that." (Mayapur, Feb 19, 1976)

As said above, having "free will" is the constitutional make up of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) that is ALWAYS part and parcel of their character and personality in the spiritual world. This means the jiva-souls can even choose to leave the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana if they want otherwise free will has no meaning.

"Free will" always allows this and if it didn't, then there is no question of loving exchanges or free will existing in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.

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The choice to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana is possible because Krsna allows a "two-way" relationship, this means one can accept or reject Krsna if they choose to do so and is proof the jiva-souls do have their free will in the spiritual world.

On the other hand in the mundane material creation there is almost no free will, so many terrible things are constantly happening and taken for granted due to ignorance.

Like the unnatural painful cycle of birth experienced trapped in a temporary material bodily vessel that is subject to disease, old age and death. 

The jiva-souls experience this while covered by a temporary  material bodily vessel they foolishly take for granted, due to forgetting they are eternal spiritual beings within the material body.

Frustration in the constantly changing material creation, will always be experienced by those jiva-souls (marginal living entities) who choose to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana, and foolishly enter the material creation, because the material creation is ALWAYS in a constantly progressive state of decay, decline and forgetfulness.

Therefore one's material bodily vessel always wears out, breaks down and decays (dies)

But the jiva-soul, covered by the material temporary body, is eternal and therefore never subjected to decay or decline, but IS forced to continuously change bodies because of the temporary nature of the material creation.

The suffering of the individual jiva-soul within this temporary material nature, does NOT happen because of Krsna, He is not responsible for the jiva-soul's choices.

No, Krsna is NOT responsible for the suffering of the individual jiva-souls who have chosen to enter the material creation.

Even though the massive Brahmanda material universes, that our smaller secondary material universe is found within one of them, are all Krsna's creation. They are built by His expansion Maha-Visnu. 

And then Garbhodakashayi Visnu, who builds a secondary universe inside the massive Brahmanda universe.

The suffering in the material creation happens because at one point in the spiritual world, the individual jiva-soul has "chosen" to misuse their "free will", given to them by Krsna for the purpose of allowing voluntary diversity meant to encourage individual devotional offerings and loving exchanges. 

Therefore, as a result of mistakingly misusing their free will, the jiva-souls are forced by their own actions, to enter the temporary material creation and become entangled in the repeated cycle of birth and death.

The spherical material Brahmanda universal shells are all coming from Maha-Visnu as seen in painting.

Deep inside each Brahmanda is a secondary universe created by Garbhodakashayi Visnu, who is an expansion of Maha-Visnu.

From Garbhodakashayi Visnu Brahma is born who builds the many planetary systems within the inner material universe inside the Brahmanda as painting below reveals.

Krsna will NEVER interfere with the individual jiva-soul's free will because if he did, the jiva-souls would have no independent sense of self-expression, or the ability to accept and experience genuine loving exchanges and service.

Without having that independent sense of  being a"unique individual," which means having personal individual attributes that allows one to "choose" for themselves how to voluntary be involved in loving exchanges of service with Krsna, contributing in their own way based on loving reciprocation, then there can be no question of genuine loving exchanges. 

These are the characteristics that make the jiva-soul (marginal living entity) the individual PERSON they are eternally.

Love or service in the spiritual worlds is NEVER a "one-way" street, love can ONLY exist when "two" are exchanging loving feelings with each other.

Only then when there is loving reciprocation and exchanges of good feelings between Kṛṣṇa and His devotee, does love exist.

Only when "two" are voluntarily involved in reciprocating with each other can love exist.

In this way, real love or service is ALWAYS based on a "two-way exchange of feelings."

As said above, that means offering individual contributions that will enhance, expand and perpetually uplift the relationship between Krsna and His marginal living entities (jiva-souls).

This can ONLY exist if the jiva-souls are allowed to express their own independent individuality and unique free will without interference (forced surrender) from Krsna or His disciples.

If Krsna did force His will on the jiva-souls, then there can never be genuine loving exchanges because denying "free will" is also denying the jiva-souls voluntarily contributing their own choices of devotional service to Krsna.

Srila Prabhupāda - "Unless there are "two persons", where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange. When these things are transacted, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things MUST be there." (Evening Darsana, Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Having "free will" is the eternal constitutional make up of EVERY "marginal living entity", and is the foundation for ALL jiva-soul's voluntary relationship with Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

In the spiritual world or Kingdom of God (Goloka-Vrindavana), loving service can never be a one-way or one-sided affair, no, real love or service is always an exchange of voluntary loving exchanges between two in a two-way relationship.

Surrendering one's "free will" to Krsna so He has complete control over the jiva-soul's every thought and actions, just like a puppet master has absolute control over his puppets, to a Vaisnava, is dangerous impersonalism.

Srila Prabhupada - "In Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, You love me, you love me, you love me, is it love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you! Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver, you love me, otherwise I shall kill you! That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C).

Such impersonalism is just like a puppet master controls his mindless puppet by moving the strings. 

The puppet has no sense of life, freedom or independence, similarly if Krsna had full control over the individual jiva-soul's ability to make their own choices, it would deny the jiva-souls from experiencing their own personal sense of an independent self, and being able to make their OWN decisions and choices of offering their own personal unique contributions.

Sadly, this type of bogus surrender, where immature leaders demanded you surrender your free will and let Krsna flow through you and do all the thinking for you, was a serious problem in the early pioneering years (1960s and 70s) of understanding what genuine surrendering to Krsna (God) and His pure devotees really meant. 

This kind of "mindless surrender" of being told to give up your free will, is actually impersonalism.

The fact is, if Krsna had full dictatorial control over the jiva-souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan, then that one-sided relationship is only empty impersonalism, slaverly and devoid of real love. 

Only a fool would want to be Krsna's mindless slave by attempting to extinguish your individuality, free will and independence thought that makes you a person who can choose to contribute to the relationship.

Such a nonsense "one-sided" dictatorial relationship in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana, would simply make the jiva-souls no better than "mindless" lifeless dead stone Prabhupada has warned, just like a lifeless puppet controlled by strings!

Therefore the jiva-souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavan, ALWAYS have their own independent "free will" that is part and parcel of their unique individual marginal identity (As jiva-soul)

This "freedom" of having free will, allows the jiva-souls to each make their own unique personal offerings and voluntary contributions to Visnu or Krsna, where each jiva-soul can offer or serve Krsna in their own unique personal way.

In other words, each individual jiva-soul has their own special unique (personal) association and relationship with Krsna that no other jiva-soul has like theirs.

These loving exchanges are based on a "two-way" relationship between Krsna and the jiva-souls.

However, in the temporary material creation, it is different because those who have entered the material creation have previously chosen to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan by rejecting Visnu in Vaikuntha or Krsna in Goloka Vrindavana.

So why then does Krsna allow the jiva-souls to have their independent freedom to even leave Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan if they choose?

Devotee – "In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here? Why doesn’t He save me from thinking like that?"

Srila Prabhupada - "That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me. Is it love? You love me, otherwise I will kill you! Is that love? So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?" (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C)

First of all we read from above by Prabhupada, Krsna gives the jiva-souls "free will" in the spiritual worlds that allows them to make their own choices there. 

Having free will also makes the jiva-souls fully responsible for all their choices and actions. 

Rejecting Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavan and therefore having to enter the material creation, (but only less than 10% make such a choice) was a mistake by those jiva-souls because the material creation is NOT the real home of the individual jiva-souls.

For genuine love to exist, each jiva-soul must experience the free will to make their own choices, even if it means leaving Krsna if they choose, otherwise there can be no question of genuine love or service.

Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism - Critique of Descartes)

This quality or attribute of free will is part of the jiva-soul's marginal constitutional nature, as an independent free thinking part and parcels expansion of the Krsna.

Krsna allows this freedom that all jiva-souls have because without free will loving exchanges and reciprocation can NEVER exist.

Srila Prabhupada – "You have got little independence therefore you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God you have got independence, proportionately, therefore if he likes he can return. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We CAN misuse that." (Mayapur, Feb 19, 1976)

Having "free will" is the constitutional make up of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) that is ALWAYS part and parcel of their eternal character and personality in the spiritual worlds.

This means the jiva-souls can even choose to leave the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana if they want.

Free will always allows this and if it didn't, then there is no question of loving exchanges or intimate relationships with Krsna.

This is why it is foolish that big, big sannyasis, gurus and Vaisnava scholars in some other sangas (religious cults), claim once entering the spiritual worlds the jiva-souls never again leave the spiritual world.

No, they CAN fall down again and again if they "choose" to do so! But only less than 10% again choose to fall down or leave, over 90% "choose" to stay.

As said above, such choices of fall down has nothing to do with Maya (material energy) because Maya does not exist on the Vaikuntha planets and in Goloka-Vrindavana.

It is simply the misuse of "free will" that is the cause of all fall down from the spiritual world.

The choice to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana is possible because Krsna allows a "two-way" relationship that includes the jiva-souls having the choice and right to accept or reject Krsna if they choose.

Srila Prabhupada  - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada -"Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Talk with Prabhupada - Rene Descartes)

Syamasundara - "But can we predict returning back home back to Godhead will be permanent? Can we predict that? Just like many prisoners leave the prison, however some do come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, there is no permanent effect because we have got little independence. There is nothing permanent because you can misuse your independence at any time."

Syamasundara - "And some come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, otherwise there is no meaning of independence. Independence means you can do this, you can do that. "All right. Whatever you like."

Devotee - "Then he is so many times falling down, again and again, so will he eventually permanently come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "He has got independence, therefore there is always the possibility he can misuse his independence, he CAN fall down. That's why when a man is released from the prison house, that does not mean permanently because he can come back again, the general law is NOT to come back, but if he likes, he can come back, otherwise what is the meaning of independence? Just like one becomes free from the prison house, naturally he should not go there again." (Talk with Syamasundara - Henri Bergson)

Even though Krsna has promised there is no return to the material creation once returning to the spiritual worlds.

The fact is, there IS return if the jiva-souls want to return to the land of exploration as Prabhupada explains here-

Acyutananda – "In Bhagavad Gita Krsna says, once coming to the spiritual world, the jiva-soul never returns to the material creation, so He can return?"

Srila Prabhupada – "If he likes he can return, that is voluntary."

Guru-kripa – "How is it that one can become envious of Krsna?"

Srila Prabhupada – "You have got little independence, you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God. God has got full independence, but you have got independence too, proportionately, because you are part and parcel, so if he likes, he can return. That independence has to be accepted. We can misuse that. Krsna-bahirmukha haïä bhoga väïchä kare. That misuse is the cause of our falldown." (Mayapur Feb 19, 1976)

Paramahamsa - "But ultimately if we come to Krsna, there’s no return to the material world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "There IS return to the material world, that is voluntary. Return there is."

Paramahamsa - "If we want."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes."

Paramahamsa - "So we can come to the spiritual world and return?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes."

Paramahamsa - "Fall down?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, as soon as we try, “Oh, this material world is very nice, Yes, Krsna says, yes, you go and enjoy the material world, otherwise what is the meaning of free will? 

Every living entity has got a little free will. And Krsna is so kind, He gives him opportunity, All right, you enjoy like this. 

Just like some of our students sometimes go away, again come back. It is free will. 

Just like one goes to the prisonhouse, not that government welcomes, "Come on. We have got prisonhouse. Come here, come here." He goes out of his free will; again comes out, again goes. Like that."

Paramahamsa - "So our desire to enjoy, we achieve these material bodies; and our desire to achieve Krsna brings us to our natural position."

Srila Prabhupada - '"Yes." (Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course, May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

Devotee - "Well, I believe you once said that once a conditioned soul becomes perfected and gets out of the material world and he goes to Krsnaloka, there’s no possibility of falling back."

Srila Prabhupada - "No! There is possibility, but he does not come IF he is intelligent. Just like after putting your hand in the fire, you never put it in again. So those who are going back to Godhead, they MUST become intelligent. Why going back to Godhead?" (Talk with Syamasundara Dasa on philosophy)

Srila Prabhupada - "As soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is very nice, yes, Kṛṣṇa says, yes, you can go. Otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will. And Kṛṣṇa is so kind, He gives him opportunity, all right, you enjoy like this." It is free will." (Morning Walk Cheviot Hills May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

All jiva-souls already have these 3 basic qualities.

1 - An independent sense of self worth, the ability of self-expression and the choice to voluntarily serve Krsna as they choose.

2 - Individuality, and a unique personality separate from Krsna's Personality. 

3 - Their own unique character and identity separate from Krsna and all other jiva-souls too. 

Only then can when these qualities exist can there be meaningful reciprocal loving exchanges between Krsna and His marginal living entities (jiva-souls)

It is a fact that sadly, some jiva-souls make wrong choices in the spiritual world Prabhupada has told us, giving the figure at less than 10%

This has nothing to do with Maya or material energy because Maya does not exist there but free will does.

Srila Prabhupada also explains that over 90% of jiva-souls choose to NEVER rebel or leave the spiritual worlds that would instantly transfers the less than 10% of rebellious jiva-souls to the temporary decaying material creation, where one is forced to accept the cycle of repeated birth and death.

Dr. John Mize – "Does Krsna know ahead of time that a soul is going to be foolish and fall?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Krsna? Yes, Krsna may know because He is omniscient."

Dr. John Mize – "Are more souls falling all the time?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Not all the time. But there is the tendency of fall down, not for all, but because there is independence… Everyone is not liking to misuse the independence. The same example- 

Just like a government constructing a city and constructs also prison house because the government knows that somebody will be criminal. So their shelter must be also constructed. It is very easy to understand. Not that cent percent population will be criminal, but government knows that some of them will be. 

Otherwise why they construct prison house also? One may say, “Where is the criminal? You are constructing…” Government knows, there will be criminal. So if the ordinary government can know, why God cannot know? Because there is tendency."

Dr. John Mize – "The origin of that tendency to fall from Goloka) is free will?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes."

Dr. John Mize – "From where does that tendency come?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Tendency means the independence. So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot become fall down, that is not independence. That is force. Therefore Krsna says,yathecchasi tathä kuru. “Now you do whatever you like." (BG, As It Is lecture, Mayapur, June 20, 1973)

While in the material creation, their actions, good and bad, come under the laws of material nature called karma, and they have to answer for all they do, good or bad.

Therefore, the full freedom or free will that exists in Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha, certainly does NOT exist in the material creation. 

Choosing to reject Krsna means the jiva-souls are FULLY responsible for their own actions. 

Krsna is NOT responsible for the choices each jiva-soul makes, they are.

All the suffering the jiva-souls experience in the material creation is caused by them leaving Krsna in the spiritual world in the first place and then reaping the reactions of their own mistaken choices of actions within a temporary material bodily vessel or container within the material creation.

In other words, the jiva-soul is punished or rewarded for what ever actions, good or bad, they have "chosen" to act out in this life that may not be payed for until the next life, or even the life after that.

No one understands how Karma fully works because no one knows how many births we have had in the material creation over billions of years!!

This is important to understand and realize, we are all responsible for our own actions and pay for them with the kind of materialbody we get.

We CANNOT blame God (Krsna) for our suffering in the material worlds. 

Without "free will" in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan, freedom to uniquely serve and love Kṛṣṇa in one's own way from one's heart (personality) will NEVER exist.

This means the jiva-souls always have an independent sense of self worth, individuality, and their own unique character and personality separate from Krsna's Personality.

As said above, only then can reciprocal love between two exist with Krsna and His marginal living entity (jiva-soul) exist.

Srila Prabhupada has said without free will and the ability to reciprocate as an independent individual servant of Lord Krsna, then we are all no better than a dead stone.

Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are "two persons", where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) can NEVER exist independently from Krsna, even though they CAN express their own independent free will that Krsna provides separately, for the purpose of allowing a "two-way" voluntary exchange of loving expressions that encourage unique individual contributions and personal offerings.

We must never forget that Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes, if we properly understand this, then we will understand the following discussion that EVERYTHING comes from Krsna including free will-

Swedish man - "Is there free will?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, just like you are sitting here. If you don’t like, you can go away. That’s your free will. There is free will, we are part and parcel of God, therefore we have got minute quantity of freedom." (Temple lecture Stockholm Sweden)

Srila Prabhupada - "Every individual soul is awarded a portion of independence because each is part and parcel of God. Thus he has the quality of independence, but in minute quantity. That is his individuality."

Syamasundara dasa - "Is Krsna within each atom as an individual entity different from every other entity?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, Krsna is there, He is individual. There are varieties of atoms, and sometimes they are combined together."

Syamasundara dasa - "How is each Krsna different? How is it He is an individual in each of the atoms?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Why is He not an individual? Krsna is always an individual. He is always a person, the Supreme Person, and He can expand Himself innumerably."

Syamasundara dasa - "And is Paramatma a person?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, every expansion is a person. We are all atomic expansions of Krsna, and we are all individual persons. Paramatma is another expansion, but that is a different kind of expansion."

Syamasundara dasa - "Is the jivatma, (the individual jiva-soul), also a person?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, if he were not a person, then how would you account for the differences? We are all different persons. You may agree with my opinion or not, but in any case you are an individual. Krsna is also an individual. Nityo nityanam. There are innumerable individual jiva-souls, but He is the supreme individual person." 

Syamasundara dasa - "So even within material atoms, there is a spiritual life, a spiritual force?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, force means spiritual force."

Syamasundara dasa - "But even within the dead body there are forces. There is the force of decomposition."

Srila Prabhupada - "Krsna is within the atom, and the body is a combination of so many atoms; therefore the force for creating other living entities is also there even in the process of decomposition. When the individual soul's force is stopped within a particular body, we call that body a dead body. Still, Krsna's force is there because the body is a combination of atoms. 

The ultimate desire is of Krsna. If you take it in that way, Krsna is within every atom, and therefore Krsna wants whatever is to be.  

Therefore He wills that these two elements become one, and therefore the molecules combine to create water, or whatever. Thus there is a creation, and again there is another creation, and so on. In any case, the ultimate brain governing all creation is Krsna." (Dialectical Spiritualism: A Vedic View of Western Philosophy)

We must never forget that Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes, if we properly understand this, then we will understand the following discussion that EVERYTHING comes from Krsna including free will.

Srila Prabhupada is simply confirming below that EVERYTHING comes from Krsna and MUST be sanctioned by Krsna first, including FREE WILL 

Syamasundara dasa - "Does the individual soul have a little independence to choose?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No (not without the sanction of Krsna) Bhagavad-Gita states that when the individual soul wants to act, Krsna gives the orders. Man proposes, and God disposes."

Syamasundara dasa - "So we have no free will?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not without the sanction of Krsna. Without Him, we cannot do anything. Therefore He is the ultimate cause."

Syamasundara dasa - "But I thought you have been saying that we have a little independence."

Srila Prabhupada - "We have the independence in the sense that we may deny or affirm, but unless Krsna sanctions, we cannot do anything." (Dialectical Spiritualism: A Vedic View of Western Philosophy)

Srila Prabhupada here is simply confirming EVERYTHING comes from Krsna and MUST be sanctioned by Krsna first, including FREE WILL because Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes.

Nothing happens without the sanction of Krsna.

However, Krsna will ALWAYS sanction free will and the ability to choose, regardless of what is said above because without free will, the jiva-souls could never voluntary contribute in their own individual way to their relationship with Kṛṣṇa, which actually what makes it a "two-way" exchange.

Above, Srila Prabhupada in his discussion with Syamasundara dasa, is simply making the point that EVERYTHING is under the control of Krsna as the Bhagavad-gita teaches us-

"Not a blade of grass moves without the will of the Lord"

In other words, we only have free will because Krsna allows it, because He wants to experience diversity, personal contributions, and see self-expression from the jiva-souls, that all together allows them to "always" have a choice.

On the other hand, without free will the spiritual worlds would be impersonal, mindless and emotionally stagnant and cold like dead stone!

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will!" (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

All the individual personal contributions from the jiva-souls are forever expanding their unique ability of self expression in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana.

This allows them to always make voluntary offerings to Krsna that forever increase and expand loving emotions in healthy "two-way" exchanges between Kṛṣṇa and the individual jīva-souls.

It is VERY important to understand that the individual jiva-souls are "PERSONS" with their own personal unique individual attributes of self expression existing always in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.

It must be clearly understood for love to truly exist, each jiva-soul MUST have their free will to make their own choices, even if it means leaving Krsna if they choose, otherwise there can be no question of genuine love or service.

Paramahaṁsa - "So we can come to the spiritual world and return?"

Prabhupāda -"Yes."

Paramahaṁsa - "Fall down?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, as soon as we try, Oh, this material world is very nice, Yes, Kṛṣṇa says, yes, you go. Otherwise what is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free will. And Kṛṣṇa is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you enjoy like this." It is free will." (Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course, May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

Bali Mardana - "An example of free will is someone can choose Kṛṣṇa or turn away? Is that example of free will?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "Yes, because if you accept Kṛṣṇa, then you must follow what Kṛṣṇa says. If you don't follow Kṛṣṇa, then what is the use of talking of Kṛṣṇa? 

Kṛṣṇa says, satataṁ kīrtayanto mām: (BG 9.14) "Always chanting about Me." That is mahātmā. Satataṁ kīrtayanto māṁ yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ (BG 9.14). Mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ: (BG 9.13) 

"Mahātmā, those who are devotee, they are not under these material influence. If he accepts Kṛṣṇa, he must abide by the injunction of Kṛṣṇa." (Morning Walk, Jan 22, 1974, Hawaii)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Cintamani (or the Cintamani Stone), is a wish-fulfilling jewel in Goloka Vrindavana.

Cintamani is ALWAYS aspired to achieve by great devotes because they ONLY desire to please Krsna.

To say you have no desires in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana is impersonalism or Mayavadi nonsense!

One NEVER loses "desires" in the spiritual world because THOSE desires are forever expanding in ways to always please Krsna.

It is foolish to think one becomes desireless in the spiritual world, only impersonalist try to extinguish their desires and commit spiritual suicide.

Actually, devotees of Krsna are forever increasing their loving affection for the Lord in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana because they ALWAYS only desire to please Radha and Krsna in Vṛndāvana or Visnu and Lakshmi on the Vaikuntha planets unconditionally.^**^.