Friday, October 15, 2021

The human society at the present moment is NOT in the darkness of oblivion.

Srila Prabhupada - "The human society at the present moment is NOT in the darkness of oblivion. 

It has made rapid progress in the field of material comforts of life, education and economic development of the entire world.

But it suffers a pin-prick somewhere in the social body at large and therefore there is large scale quarrel even on less important issues.

Therefore there is the want of the clue as to how they can become one in peace, friendship and prosperity by the common cause. 

Srimad Bhagavatam will fill up this gap by ontological aspect of human education.

It is therefore a cultural presentation for re-spiritualisation of the entire human society." (Śrīmad Bhāgavatam Preface)

Ultimately LOVE is not a one-way street, real love is based on voluntary reciprocal loving exhanges between two, not just one.

The individual jiva-souĺs have THEIR choices too, even if that choice means rejecting Krsna.

This is because loving reciprocation is only possible on a two-way street between two with each contributing to the relationship.

This also means the jiva-souls are allowed to reject Krsna to establish that free will DOES truly exist.

Only impersonalists preach that "surrender" means giving up your free will, individuality, independent contributions, personal opinions and unique offerings, and just become "little "mindless" Krsna imitaters"

No, such immature surrender is nonsense impersonalism.

If Krsna forced His will and dominance on the jiva-souls, denying them there ability to contribute personal offerings, suggestions and services that enhance and enrich a relationship of reciprocation, then they would be no better than dead useless stone Prabhupada warns us.

Such forceful one-way, "don't think and just do as I say" demands by a dogmatic impersonal so called God, will only totally destroy the jiva-soul's independent quality of self expression, voluntary contributions and personal unique offerings.

And if Krsna DID force His will on the jiva-souls, FORCING them to love Him and only do what He wants and demands, denying a two-way exchange, then how can that be real genuine love?

How can any loving relationship be based on "surrender" meaning just always being told how to think and what to do?

Such forced surrender to follow Krsna's will is tyranny! 

However, the fact is Krsna is NOT like that at all Prabhupada explains here.

Devotee – "If Krsna did not want us to come to the material world, then why are we here?”

Srila Prabhupada - “That means you lose your independence. That is force, in Bengali it is said, ‘If you catch one girl or boy, ‘You love me, you love me, you love me.’ Is it love? “You love me, otherwise I will kill you!’ Is that love? 

So Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, on the point of revolver. ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!’ That is not love; that is threatening. Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force; that is rape. Why one is called lover, another is called rape?” (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C)

Therefore by forcing the jiva-souls to comply is interfering with the jiva-soul's free will.

The fact is Krsna will NEVER make decisions for the jiva-souls, otherwise their free will is violated.

There can be no question of love if the jiva-soul has no free will to choose for themselves.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life". (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Free will is never surrendered in the Spiritual World as some fools believe because without free will there can NEVER be love. 

Surrender must be voluntary that includes personal unique (your own individual offerings) contributions.

Free will is eternally part and parcel of the jiva-souls natural constitutional make-up and therefore ALWAYS exists without beginning or end on all the Spiritual Planets.

Therefore free will in its full potential is ONLY fully experienced in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavan (the Spiritual Worlds), which is the jiva-soul's original perpetual home.

The material creation is an alien unnatural environment for the jiva-souls and they should not be there in the material creation or the impersonal Brahmajyoti.

The relationship with Krsna is NEVER a one-way dictatorship, it is never impersonal, one's relationship with Krsna is always based on reciprocation and loving exchanges.

The jiva-souls in their full potential in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana are forever choosing to expand their individual expression of personal offerings to Krsna in their relationship with Him.

Such a relationship is NEVER impersonal, one-sided or one-way because Krsna always reciprocates with such genuine loving effection with His devotees.

Srila Prabhupada - "Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!" (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Real love can NEVER exist on a "one-way or one-sided" impersonal path, where that one-sided affair only allows a "none contributing" version of so called "surrender" to Krsna (God).

This kind of "impersonal surrender" only "extinguishes" the jiva-soul's individuality, free-will, and their ability to contribute or provide offerings in their own unique way.

From personal "self invented contributions" that Krsna is surprised by and impressed by, because they enrich, flavour and intensify the mystery of loving exchanges between the jiva-souls and Krsna.

To Krsna it is all lila or pastime because technically He knows everything but plays a part to satisfy His devotees.

All the personal unique contributions by the jiva-soul's "expressions from free will", forever expands their personal ability to make voluntary offerings that forever increase their loving emotions for Krsna in a healthy "two-way" exchange of reciprocation between Kṛṣṇa and the individual jīva-souls.

It is VERY important to understand the jiva-souls are "PERSONS" with individual feelings and ALWAYS have the right of self expression in both Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.

It must be clearly understood for love to truly exist, each jiva-soul MUST have their free will to make their own choices, even if it means leaving Krsna if they choose, otherwise there can be no question of genuine love or service.

Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

This quality or attribute of free will is part of the jiva-soul's marginal constitutional nature, as an independent free thinking part and parcels expansion of the Krsna.

Krsna allows this freedom that all jiva-souls have because without free will loving exchanges and reciprocation can NEVER exist.

Srila Prabhupada – “You have got little independence therefore you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God you have got independence, proportionately, therefore if he likes he can return. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We CAN misuse that. (Mayapur, February 19, 1976)

Having "free will" is the constitutional make up of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) that is ALWAYS part and parcel of their eternal character and personality in the Spiritual Worlds.

This means the jiva-souls can even choose to leave the Vaikuntha Planets or Goloka-Vrindavana if they want.

Free will always allows this and if it didn't then there is no question of loving exchanges.

This is why it is foolish that big, big sannyasis and gurus in some other sangas ( religious cults) claim once entering the Spiritual Worlds the jiva-souls can never leave or down again.

No, they CAN fall down again and again if they choose to do so!

And as said above, such choices or fall downs have nothing to do with Maya (material energy) because Maya does not exist in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana.

It is simply the misuse of free will that is the cause of fall down.

The choice to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana is possible because Krsna allows a "two-way" relationship, this means one can accept or reject Krsna if they choose to do so.

Srila Prabhupada  - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly".

Srila Prabhupada -"Yes", but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will. (Talk with Rene Descartes)

Syamasundara - "But can we predict returning back home back to Godhead will be permanent? Can we predict that? Just like many prisoners leave the prison, however some do come back?''

Srila Prabhupada - "No, there is no permanent effect because we have got little independence. There is nothing permanent because you can misuse your independence at any time".

Syamasundara - "And some come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes. Otherwise there is no meaning of independence. Independence means you can do this, you can do that. "All right. Whatever you like."

Devotee - "Then he is so many times falling down, again and again, so will he eventually permanently come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "He has got independence, therefore there is always the possibility he can misuse his independence, he CAN fall down. That's why when a man is released from the prison house, that does not mean permanently because he can come back again, the general law is NOT to come back, but if he likes, he can come back, otherwise what is the meaning of independence? Just like one becomes free from the prison house, naturally he should not go there again". (Talk with Syamasundara and Henri Bergson)^^^

















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