Thursday, October 7, 2021

The most important quality of Krsna's marginal potency (jiva-souls) is their free will because without free will there can never be any voluntary exchanges of love.

The reason why Krsna gave the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) their "free will" is so they can choose for themselves how to voluntarily interact with Him.

This is achieved with Krsna, by forever increasing and enriching their individual contributions of service in loving exchanges with Krsna.

The individual jiva-souls are independent (separated) living entities in the spiritual world's of thw Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana, yet the jiva-souls are simultaneously fully dependent on Krsna or Visnu as His parts and parcels.

The most important quality of Krsna's marginal potency is their free will because without it there can never be voluntary loving exchanges and reciprocation with Krsna.

All jiva-souls (marginal living entities or the marginal potency) have their own unique personality, free will and a independent unique sense of self separate from Krsna's Personality and identity. 

The reason why Krsna gave the jiva-souls their free will as independent living entities is so they can voluntarily choose for themselves how to contribute and serve Krsna in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana in their own unique way WITHOUT being forced into any dictatorial mindless relationship.

No, Krsna does NOT want mindless stone-like servants like that, who have no mind of their own and cannot think for themselves in their own unique way and make their own decisions on how they can serve Krsna and uniquely contribute to the relationship.

In this way, without free will,  genuine loving relations and feelings with Krsna can NEVER exist!

The jiva-souls in the spiritual world are NOT programmed mindless impersonal drones who only obey, and are always told what to do, how to act and what to think, never to offer their own unique personal contributions, or allowed to decide for themselves how they want to serve Krsna in their own singular way.

As said above, only by having free will (the freedom to choose to make one's own unique contributions in their relationship with Krsna) in the spiritual world, can genuine loving exchanges and reciprocation take place.

Without "free will" the jiva-soul is no better than dead stone Prabhupada has told us.

Furthermore, Krsna NEVER interferes with the free will of the jiva-souls because if He did and never allowed them to have the "freedom" to make their own choices in the spiritual world, then loving exchanges of voluntarily reciprocation with Krsna could never exist.

We are talking here about the spiritual world and not the mundane temporary material world where free will is almost non-existent.  

In the spiritual world, If one is forced to worship Krsna or Visnu, then that is NOT having a meaningful loving exchange with the Lord that builds personal feelings of security, it is tyranny, bullying and impersonalism.

That "impersonal mayavadi" nonsense version of Krsna's abode of Goloka Vrindavana or the Vaikuntha planets, is where the jiva-souls are forced to surrender their "free will" and unique individual independence and personality to Krsna or Visnu and allow the Lord to control you like a puppet master controls his puppets.

Such bogus so called devotees and their sangas, mislead aspiring Vaishnavas by saying - 

"You MUST fully "surrender prabhu" by letting Krsna flow through you and taking over your individual existence by allowing Him to do all the thinking and actions for you."

Such dangerous IMPERSONALISM and so called surrender, is spiritual suicide to the REAL Vaishnavas (devotees of Krsna) attempting to achieve "genuine" Krsna Consciousness.

This is because this kind of nonsense "surrender" is attempting to extinguish the unique individual identity and independent personality of the jiva-souls, and be like Krsna's mindless puppet in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana.

Having "free will" allows the jiva-soul (marginal living entity) to be the individual independent PERSON they are eternally in Krsna's perpetual Kingdom, where they can ALWAYS think for themselves and choose how to voluntarily contribute the very best they have as their own personal unique offering to Krsna. 

This is the REAL Goloka Vrindavana and Vaikuntha planets that are the eternal kingdom's of God.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. You want to be stone? Then you must have free will. But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada  - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing, it is bad, but still he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Excerpt from: Philosophy Discussions with Srila Prabhupada – Rene Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is NOT love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture on BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - ''We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, personally. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (Lecture on SB Canto 1 Ch 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)

Srila Prabhupada - "Their (impersonalist) philosophy is oneness. So how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There MUST be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant..." (Lecture on SB Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada - "So if by free will you choose to surrender to Krsna, then you’ll get your REAL "free will or freedom. Otherwise you are under the clutches of maya." (Morning Walk – 14 July 14, 1975, Philadelphia)

Srila Prabhupada - "Unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will and having the choice to do right or wrong, then there is no question of freedom." (Srila Prabhupada's Dialectical Spiritualism - Critique of Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada - "As soon as we try, “Oh, this material world is very nice,", Krsna says, “yes, you go and enjoy the material world", otherwise what is the meaning of "free will?" Every living entity has got a little "free will". And Krsna is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you enjoy like this." It is "free will". Just like one goes to the prisonhouse, not that government welcomes, "Come on. We have got prisonhouse. Come here, come here." He goes out of his "free will"; again comes out, again goes. Like that." (Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course, May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)

Only the impersonalist prays to be an "inactive" almost dead atom in Krsna's effulgence, or merge dormantly as a "spark" in the Brahmajyoti effulgence (Krsna's Bodily effulgence)

However, a devotee does experience personalism in different ways by praying to serve Krsna by even being a flower, a tree, a blade of grass, a chair, a flag pole, a chariot in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana.

Srila Prabhupada - "The jiva-soul's position in the spiritual world is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna," he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 - Melbourne, May 20, 1975)*+*












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