Wednesday, February 6, 2019

The jiva has been in the impersonal Brahman for such a very, very, very, very, very long duration of time, they think this impersonal Brahman is their origin forgetting they were previously embodied in the material world.

The jiva inactively hovers for a very, very, very, very, very long duration of time, so long in fact that they think this impersonal Brahman is their origin forgetting they had fallen to that condition.

All sins will be wiped clean by Kalki Avatar when He kills the material bodily vessels occupied by those souls left at the end of Kali-yuga.

Because when the demonic are liberated by God, the jiva will enter the impersonal Brahman completely unaware of its individual existence as a person.

While there, the jiva inactively hovers for a very, very, very, very, very long duration of time, so long in fact that they think this impersonal Brahman is their origin when the jiva eventually comes out of that state of inactive consciousness forgetting they were previously in the material creation playing different roles long, long, long before being liberated by the Lord or as a impersonalist yogi and then merging into the impersonal Brahman.

And while in a material body in the material creation, the jiva also forgets they have previously been in the impersonal Brahman or impersonal Brahmajyoti many, many, many times.

However, the jiva never originated from there.

So AGAIN they are getting another chance to enter the material creation in the lowest material bodily vessel, an amebha which is smaller than virus and bacterial life forms.

From there they gradually evolve through the lower species, Aquatic, to plant, insect, bird, and gradually progress to an animal bodily vessel.

And then again, after billions of billions of years in animal forms, is given another chance to enter the very material rare "human bodily" form.

Only in the human container can one inquire about God or miss use it to exploit others and material nature.

Reaching the human form is extremely rare and becoming a devotee is the rarest of all in this material creation.

Several of the most profound answers regarding our fall from Vaikuntha were written to Jagadisa dasa, Temple president of Toronto.

Here are those comments by Prabhupada

Srila Prabhupada – ''Regarding your questions about how and from where did the conditioned souls fall.

Your first question if someone has a relationship with Lord Krsna on Krsnaloka, does he ever fall down?

The souls are endowed with minute independence as part of their nature and this minute independence may be utilized rightly or wrongly at anytime.

So there is always a chance of falling down by misuse of one’s independence'' Letter to Jagadisa Prabhu, 4/25/1970. End of quote

Srila Prabhupada – Regarding your several questions:

Where are the spirit souls coming from that are taking microbe bodies? It is not a matter of any particular body.

These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha, but in these material worlds they are taking various grades of bodies according to their material activities.

There is no “ NEW” soul. “New'’ and “old'’ are due to this material body.

But the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth how there can be new soul'' Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970 . End of quote

Srila Prabhupada - “Regarding your questions concerning the spirit souls falling into Maya’s influence, it is not that those who have developed a passive relationship with Krsna are more likely to fall into nescient activities.

Usually anyone who has developed his relationship with Krsna does not fall down in any circumstance, but because the independence is always there, the soul may fall down from any position or any relationship by misusing his independence.

But his relationship with Krishna is never lost, simply forgotten by the influence of maya so it maybe regained or revived by the process of hearing the Holy Name of Krsna and then the devotee engages himself in the service of the Lord which is his original or constitutional position.

The relationship of the living entity with Krsna is eternal as both Krsna and the living entity are eternal; the process is one of revival only, nothing new'' Letter to Jagadisa 02/27/1970 End of quote

Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krishna Loka. When one forgets Krishna he is conditioned, when one remembers Krishna he is liberated". (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "We cannot say therefore that we are not with Krsna. As soon as we try to become Lord, immediately Maya covers us. "Formerly we were with Krsna in His lila or sport". But this covering of Maya may be of very, very, very, very long duration; therefore many creations are coming and going". (Letter to Madhudvisa Swami May 1972 Australia)

Srila Prabhupada  - "Formerly we were with Krsna in His lila or sport". But this covering of Maya may be of very, very, very, very long duration; therefore many creations are coming and going". (Letter to Madhudvisa Swami May 1972 Australia)

Srila Prabhupada – ''Regarding your questions about how and from where did the conditioned souls fall. Your first question if someone has a relationship with Lord Krsna on Krsnaloka, does he ever fall down? The souls are endowed with minute independence as part of their nature and this minute independence may be utilized rightly or wrongly at anytime. So there is always a chance of falling down by misuse of one’s independence'' Letter to Jagadisa Prabhu, 4/25/1970. End of quote

Srila Prabhupada – Regarding your several questions: Where are the spirit souls coming from that are taking microbe bodies? It is not a matter of any particular body. These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha, but in these material worlds they are taking various grades of bodies according to their material activities. Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970 . End of quote

Srila Prabhupada - "There is no “ NEW” soul. “New'’ and “old'’ are due to this material body. But the soul is NEVER born and NEVER dies, so if there is no birth how there can be new soul'' Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970 . End of quote

Srila Prabhupada - “Regarding your questions concerning the spirit souls falling into Maya’s influence, it is not that those who have developed a passive relationship with Krsna are more likely to fall into nescient activities. Usually anyone who has developed his relationship with Krsna does not fall down in any circumstance, but because the independence is always there, the soul may fall down from any position or any relationship by misusing his independence". Letter to Jagadisa 02/27/1970 End of quote

Srila Prabhupada - "Even if one falls down from Vaikuntha, his relationship with Krishna is never lost, simply forgotten by the influence of maya so it maybe regained or revived by the process of hearing the Holy Name of Krsna and then the devotee engages himself in the service of the Lord which is his original or constitutional position". Letter to Jagadisa 02/27/1970 End of quote

Srila Prabhupada  - "The relationship of the living entity with Krsna is eternal as both Krsna and the living entity are eternal; the process is one of revival only, nothing new'' Letter to Jagadisa 02/27/1970 End of quote

Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom.” (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krishna Loka. When one forgets Krishna he is conditioned, when one remembers Krishna he is liberated". (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "We cannot say therefore that we are not with Krsna. As soon as we try to become Lord, immediately Maya covers us. "Formerly we were with Krsna in His lila or sport". But this covering of Maya may be of very, very, very, very long duration; therefore many creations are coming and going". (Letter to Madhudvisa Swami May 1972 Australia)

Srila Prabhupada - ''When the superior energy is in contact with inferior energy, it becomes an incompatible situation. But when the supreme marginal potency is in contact with the spiritual potency, Harā, it becomes the happy, normal condition of the living entity''. The "Happening Album" 1966 New York USA


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