There is only "one classification" of jiva-souls who can express themselves in "two different ways," not two different jiva-souls as some wrongly believe.
In other words each individual jiva-soul has "two-sides to their personality", they can either be nitya-siddha (eternally liberated) which is their original natural position.
Or they can be nitya-baddha (eternally conditioned) within the material creation, or dormant (inactive) in the impersonal Brahmajyoti).
Nitya-baddha is a condition the jiva-souls fall down too from their original position of nitya-siddha in either Goloka-Vrindavana or Vaikuntha.
In this way the jiva-souls can choose for themselves to be with Krsna, or reject Krsna.
This is because each jiva-soul, as part of their spiritual constitutional make-up, has free will.
Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)
Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence; that is force." (LA, June 23, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is a chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one-sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."
Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."
Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing; it is bad, but still, he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Discussions with Srila Prabhupada – Rene Descartes)
Some claim there are two types of jiva-souls-
1 - One who stays in the Vaikuṇṭha and Goloka Vṛndāvana and never has a choice to go to the material creation (nitya-siddha)
2 - And the other in the material creation (nitya-baddha) who can also be dormant (inactive) in the impersonal Brahmajyoti. But can eventually enter the Spiritual worlds too, but once there can never fall down, so they claim.
Such division of the jiva-soul is incorrect, there is only "one" type of jiva-soul who has two-sides to their individual personality.
They are called nitya-siddha (eternally liberated) which is the original position of all the jiva-souls in the spiritual worlds.
And nitya-baddha (eternally conditioned) is the "fallen condition" of the jiva-souls when they choose to leave the Spiritual worlds.
So where is the jiva-soul's original home? And from where are they all coming from?
Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense everyone comes from Krsnaloka (Goloka-Vrindavana). When one forgets Krsna he is conditioned (nitya-baddha), when one remembers Krsna he is liberated (nitya-siddha)." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)
As said above there are no two types of the jiva-tattvas (jiva-souls) that some wrongly claim, there is only "one" type of jiva-soul who can be either nitya-baddha (eternally conditioned) or nitya-siddha (eternally liberated)
Srila Prabhupada – "The answer to your question about the marginal energy is that the jiva-soul is always called the marginal energy whether he is in the spiritual world or in the material world." (Letter to Rayarama, Dec 2, 1968)
As said above, there is not two kinds of jiva-souls as some scholars wrongly claim, one being nitya-siddha (eternally liberated), who they claim never leaves the spiritual worlds.
And the other being nitya-baddha (eternally conditioned) who they wrongly claim are in the material creation or impersonal Brahmajyoti and have never been to the spiritual worlds.
This point to understand here is there is only one kind of jiva-soul who can choose to be either nitya-siddha or nitya-baddha.
In other words there is only one category of jiva-soul that can be either (by choice) nitya-siddha (eternally liberated) or nitya-baddha (eternally conditioned)
Srila Prabhupada - "There are two kinds of marginal living entities: nitya-siddha and nitya-baddha but the actual constitutional position of every marginal living entity is nitya-siddha." (CC lecture, July 13, 1976)
Srila Prabhupada - "By following the rules and regulations and instructions of the spiritual master, he can become AGAIN nitya-siddha. So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha." (NY City Lecture on CC, July 13, 1976)
Srila Prabhupada - "So the Krsna consciousness movement is to make the nitya-baddhas AGAIN nitya-siddha, to bring them to their original position. It is a difficult task." (London lecture on BG, 13-14, July 14, 1973)
Srila Prabhupada - "There are three kinds of liberated persons. They are called 1) sadhan siddha, 2) kripa siddha, and 3) nitya siddha. When one is actually on the siddha platform there is no such distinction as to who is sadhan, kripa, or nitya siddha. When one is siddha, there is no distinction what is what. Just like when the river water glides down to the Atlantic Ocean nobody can distinguish which portion was the Hudson River or some other river." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)
Srila Prabhupada - "Nitya-baddhas are within this material world. Beginning from Brahma down to a small ant, insignificant ant, they are all nitya-baddha. Anyone who is in this material world they are nitya-baddha." (Lecture on BG, 13-14, July 14, 1973)
Srila Prabhupada - "We cannot say therefore that we are not with Krsna. As soon as we try to become Lord, immediately Maya covers us. Formerly we were with Krsna in His lila or sport. But this covering of Maya may be of very, very, very, very long duration; therefore many creations are coming and going." (Letter to Madhudvisa Swami June 1972 Australia)
Srila Prabhupada – "Regarding your questions about how and from where did the conditioned souls fall, your first question if someone has a relationship with Lord Krsna on Krsnaloka (Goloka Vrindavana), does he ever fall down? The souls are endowed with minute independence as part of their nature and this minute independence may be utilized rightly or wrongly at anytime, so there is always a chance of falling down by misuse of one’s independence." (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 4/25/1970)
Srila Prabhupada – "These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha, but in these material worlds they are taking various grades of bodies according to their material activities. There is no new souls. New and old are due to this material body, but the soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth how there can be new soul." (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 7/9/1970)
Srila Prabhupada - "Regarding your questions concerning the spirit souls falling into Maya’s influence, it is not that those who have developed a passive relationship with Krsna are more likely to fall into nescient activities. Usually anyone who has developed his relationship with Krsna does not fall down in any circumstance, but because the independence is always there, the soul may fall down from any position or any relationship by misusing his independence."(Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 02/27/1970)
Srila Prabhupada - "But his relationship with Krsna is never lost, simply forgotten by the influence of maya so it maybe regained or revived by the process of hearing the Holy Name of Krsna and then the devotee engages himself in the service of the Lord which is his original constitutional position. The relationship of the living entity with Krsna is eternal as both Krsna and the living entity are eternal; the process is one of revival only, nothing new." (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 02/27/1970)
Krsna (God) is more inclined to help those who first do everything they can to help themselves find a spiritual master to teach them spiritual life.
If one is honest with themselves, Krsna sends the Guru (spiritual teacher) who will guide them out of the material creation and return back home, back to Godhead to be with Krsna.
Only then will Krsna help you when He sees you are trying your very hardest to do everything you can to help yourself, only then will Krsna send you a spiritual teacher.
Srila Prabhupada - "In all the śāstras [scriptures] the guru is described to be as good as God, but the guru never says, ‘I am God.’ The disciple’s duty is to offer respect to the guru just as he offers respect to God, but the guru never thinks, ‘My disciples are offering me the same respect they offer to God; therefore I have become God.’ As soon as he thinks like this, he becomes a dog." (From the Book, Science of reealization)
Genuine loving exchanges are voluntary and reciprocal, it is never a "one-way" street where Krsna does everything for you.
Surrender to Krsna's pure devotees does not mean you lose your free will, independence and individuality to be qualified to enter the spiritual world, no, such bogus surrender is impersonalism.
The marginal living entity (jiva-soul) has always had freedom (free will) therefore, there is no question of the marginal living entity ever not having free will because free will in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana is perpetually part and parcel of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) make up.
The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) originate from Goloka-Vrindavana and not the Impersonal Brahman as Prabhupada teaches.
Originally all jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are nitya-siddha Prabhupada has explained.
This is because they all came from Goloka Vrindavana, only when they enter the material creation and the impersonal brahman do they then become nitya-baddha.
Therefore a nitya-siddha eternally liberated jiva-soul can become a nitya-baddha conditioned jiva-soul, and the nitya-baddhas can AGAIN become nitya-siddha if they again choose to surrender to Krsna via His pure devotee.
It is important to also understand that no jiva-souls originate from the impersonal Brahmajyoti.
Srila Prabhupada - "Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana, LA, 13 June, 1970)
The following Conversation took place in Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974 between Srila Prabhupada and his disciples.
Devotee – "When we are in the spiritual sky and serving Krsna, we have a perfect relationship with Krsna, what causes us to fall down in the material world, because we’re already serving Krsna?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Because you desire to fall down. Here it is explained that don’t fall down."
Devotee – "Srila Prabhupada, I can’t understand why we should have an impure desire when we are already serving."
Srila Prabhupada – "Because you have got little freedom. Why one is not coming here and going to the liquor shop? It is desire."
Devotee – "In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, you forced Krsna to allow you to come. Just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, "My dear son, do not do this. Do not go there." But he insists, Oh, I must go. I must go." "All right, you go at your risk. That’s all. And you suffer. What can be done?" Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, almighty—therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. So God does not interfere with your little independence. If you persist that "I must go and enjoy independently," so God says, "All right, you can go." This is the position. You have to take sanction. That is a fact. But when you persist, God sanctions. And you come and enjoy." (Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)
Question - Is there a place in the spiritual world from where we can never fall down from?"
Answer - No, it is not based on a place where you can never fall down from that keeps you in Vaikuntha, it does not work that way because of free will, which means there is always choice no matter where you are in the spiritual worlds, the Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana.
If you were forced to stay there then how can there be love? An expression of love also means you have a choice to do right or wrong.
The choice to leave or stay must always be with the jiva-souls too.
So many who consider themselves advanced devotees of God cannot understand what free will really means.
Some sentimentally foolishly claim that "not even the leaves can fall from Vaikuntha," ignoring the fact that because of "free will," at anytime over an infinity, the jiva-souls CAN choose to reject Krsna and fall down again and again if they choose.
The time span is infinity!
Not even Krsna's promise to the jiva-souls saying they will never again fall down to the material creation, can interfere with the jiva-soul's free will to again fall down if they choose to do so.
If Krsna forced His will on the jiva-souls, then that puts an end to free will.
There nonsense version of Kṛṣṇa makes Him a dictator who actually denies free will which forces them to stay in Goloka-Vrindavana and the Vaikuntha planets because they have no choice.
That is the only way Krsna can stop the jiva-souls leaving Vaikuntha planets or Goloka-Vrindavana.
Denying the jiva-souls their constitutional right of freedom of expression!
It is nonsense to claim the jiva-souls can ever again fall down from Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana, they can choose to leave at anytime because they have free will as part of their constitutional make up.
Remaining in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana eternally is based on what the jiva-soul's want to do as a unique individual.
Therefore, it is their choice to stay or go not Krsnas as explained above, otherwise there is no meaning to having free will.
If Krsna forced His will on the jiva-souls then He destroys their independence, free will and ability to voluntarily express themselves in their own unique way, allowing themselves to choose where they want to be even if returning to the material creation.
The jiva-souls have the choice to become a servant of the Lord, or a servant of their own independent desires.
They can reject Krsna if they want in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana, only sentimental fools cannot understand this.
The jiva-souls never lose their unique ability of free will of independent self expression, where the jiva-soul is always personally aware they have the choice to selflessly serve Krsna in their own unique way as the loving servant of the servant of Krsna, or reject and try to make the material creation their home.
The fact is, for one to not again fall from Krsna's personal Kingdom is the jiva-soul's responsibility and not just only Krsnas. It is the jiva-soul's choice as well, it is their free will to do as they want.
However, the good thing is more than 90% of jiva-souls do not fall down from Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana simply because they choose not to leave.
That choice to stay in Vaikuntha or leave is always with the marginal living entities or jiva-souls.
The jiva-souls or marginal living entities have 78.125% of Krsna's quantities (this means they have 50 of Krsna's 64 qualities) which puts them in the realm of having independence, identity, personality, individuality and the ability to choose. This means the jiva-souls have the ability to agree or not agree with Krsna.
Their individuality allows the jiva-souls the right to choose Krsna or choose to be separate from Krsna, this is the meaning of free will.
Remember, Maya and the material energy do not exist in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana, so Maya is unknown to the jiva-souls in the spiritual worlds.
However, free will and independence allows the jiva-souls to experience a unique sense of individuality with the ability to express oneself in their own way.
All these qualities are the constitutional make up of each jiva-soul in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana.
And if all those abilities are taken away, then the jiva-souls lose the ability to give and accept love and become no better than dead stone.
Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no ''free will," then you are a stone. The stone has no "free will." Do you want to be stone? Then, you must have "free will!" But don't misuse your ''free will." But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (Aug 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)
Srila Prabhupada - "Because you are Son of God you have got independence, full independence, almighty—therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. So God does not interfere with your little independence." (Melb, Australia June 25, 1974)
No one forces the jiva-souls to stay in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana, that choice
For loving exchanges to truly exist with the jiva-soul, they must have the the right to express themselves and even choose to leave Vaikuntha if they desire, even being in Vaikuntha is not permanent because there is always free will Prabhupada explains.
Srila Prabhupada - "There is no question of knowing it is permanent because he has got independence, he can misuse his independence, he can fall down. That's why when a man is released from the prison house, that does not mean permanently because he can come back again, the general law is not to come back. but if he likes, he can come back, otherwise what is the meaning of independence? Just like one becomes free from the prison house, naturally he should not go there again." (Discussions with Syamasundara > Henri Bergson)
The jiva-souls have 78.125% of Krsna's qualities as explained above, they are partially independent expansions of Krsna aware of their own individuality and free will.
This allows them to experience an independent personality separate from Krsna's Personality.
In this category called the marginal living entities, the jiva-souls can make their own decisions and choices.
Furthermore, Krsna does not interfere with the jiva-soul's free will because it is part of the eternal constitution of all jiva-souls that allows a personal two-sided reciprocal relationship with Krsna.
Krsna never at any point, did not give freedom or free will to the marginal living entities (jiva-souls), they have always had free will in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana.
Free will allows the jiva-souls to experience individuality, loving reciprocation and exchanges, independent choice of service, and being responsible for their actions and choices.
This however, does not mean all jiva-souls are independent from Krsna's control of all things, no, that is not possible because everything is under Krsna's control.
At all time the jiva-souls are always dependent on Krsna or via His expansions like Maha-Visnu who manages the material creation.
So even as independent individuals separated from Krsna's Kingdoms in the spiritual worlds, they are always still under Krsna energy.
This is because Krsna is always the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes in both the spiritual and material worlds.
Therefore, the jiva-souls always remain dependent on the various energies of Krsnas.
The jiva-souls always simultaneously depend on Krsna and His expansions in both the spiritual worlds and material worlds, the jiva-souls are never fully independent because Krsna owns everything.
So even though the jiva-souls are an expansion of Krsna, the jiva-souls are not one with Krsna in personality. The individual jiva-souls are not one with Krsna but are independent thinking living entities with their own sense of self and personality that makes them one in purpose.
Both are independent with their own unique personality.
Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu is the manifestation of Radha and Krsna in one Body where both experience each other's love for each other.
Infact, Krsna, Balarama, Radharani and Lord Caitanya are all the ONE personality, they are all Visnu-tattvas with 93.75% of Krsna's qualities which is having 60 of Krsna's 64 qualities.
All Visnu-tattvas originate from Krsna as His direct expansions however, Radharani and Lord Caitanya are in a league non-different than Krsna.
The only standard out reality make Krsna above all others is He is the first from whom ALL other expansions radiate from.
Just like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays.
A group in Krsna's categories of living entities are called the marginal living entities who are independent jiva-souls who have 78.125% of Krsna's qualities.
This means they have 50 of Krsna's 64 qualities including free will, that allows them to even leave Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana if they choose.
Some scholars, sages and devotees have miss understood this point in Srimad Bhagavatam (also known as the Bhagavat Purana)
Their claim is once the jiva-soul reaches Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana they never again fall down to the material creation.
There understanding is incorrect and having free will in the spiritual worlds proves that.
Therefore, to say those who enter Vaikuntha will never again fall down is only true for those who choose not to fall down.
In other words, if the jiva-soul wants to leave, they certainly can, coming to the material worlds or staying in Vaikuntha is ultimately the jiva-soul's choice and not Krsnas or Visnus.
Krsna does not interfere, even though He has promised there is no return to the material creation.
The fact, there is return if the jiva-souls wants to return explained here.
Acyutananda – "But in the Bhagavad Gita it says, "Once coming to the spiritual world, he never again returns to the material world. He can return?"
Srila Prabhupada – "If he likes he can return."
Guru-kripa – "How is it that one can become envious of Krsna?"
Srila Prabhupada – "You have got little independence, you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God, God has got full independence, but you have got little independence, proportionately, because you are part and parcel, if he likes, he can return. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We can misuse that. Krsna-bahirmukha haïä bhoga väïchä kare. That misuse is the cause of our falldown." (Conversation, Mayapur, Feb 19, 1976)
For those who believe no one can ever fall down from Vaikuntha have not understood the different categories of living entities in Vaikuntha of whom the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are just one.
It is only a very small minority of jiva-souls (less than 10%) who choose to leave but not the category of Visnu-tattvas who never fall down because they are Krsna Himself playing another role in His own pastimes.
Many have not understood the many different categories of living entities in Vrindavana who never fall down, such as the many categories of "sakti-tattvas," many who are not jiva-souls but are direct expansions of Krsna (Visnu-tattva) playing another part.
Of course such expansions never fall down because they are Krsna Himself in another role, just like in a play.
So for them, choice is exactly the same as Krsna's choice.
But for over 90% of jiva-souls or marginal living entities who have the ability to always choose, they may choose to never fall down for now, but even that can change because "free will" is eternal in the Spiritual world.
Devotee - "Well, I believe you once said that once a conditioned soul becomes perfected and gets out of the material world and he goes to Krsnaloka (Goloka-Vrindavana), there’s no possibility of falling down again?"
Srila Prabhupada - "No, there is possibility, but he does not come. Just like after putting your hand in the fire, you never put it in again if you are really intelligent. So those who are going back to Godhead, they become intelligent." (CC, Adi-lila 7.108-San Francisco, Feb, 18, 1967)
However, there will always be a very small minority of only the jiva-souls who misuse their free will and leave Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana.
Free will is eternal in the spiritual worlds, without having the choice to either forget or remember Krsna, then we would have no independent personality separate from Krsna's Personality and no ability to voluntarily offer love, we would be like dead stone or machines in a factory.
The eternal constitution and original position of the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is fully explained by Krsna disguised as a brahmana as follows-
The Brāhmaṇa said - "My dear friend, even though you cannot immediately recognize Me, can't you remember that in the past you had a very intimate friend Unfortunately, you gave up My company and accepted a position as enjoyer of this material world." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 4, 28 text 53)
The marginal living entities (jiva-souls) sometimes fall down to the material creation from Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana which are their original home.
This means they do not originate from the Impersonal Brahman (Brahmajyoti) or the Body of Maha-Visnu as some believe.
Srila Prabhupada explains-
Srila Prabhupada - "Existence in the impersonal brahman is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness - Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana."(Letter to Revatinandana, LA, 13 June, 1970)
Srila Prabhupada - "Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus there is no question of past, present or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)
The fallen jiva-souls enters the material creation via the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
This means they must "hire" a suitable material bodily vessel from Maha-Visnu who is dreaming the entire material creation, including all material bodily vessels.
It only appears to some the jiva-souls are still in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana dreaming they are in the material creation because "time" in the material creation is the constantly changing and is temporary.
Therefore the jiva-souls experience a journey through past, present and future that has no effect on the spiritual platform.
In other words "time" in the spiritual worlds does not experience past or future, which means only the perpetual presence exists on all spiritual planets.
This means only the "eternal presence" of Krsna and Visnu exists in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana as Brahma Samhita explains.
That is why Prabhupada explained to us that after spending millions of life times in the material creation under the decaying influence of "past, present and future", on return to the "eternal presence" of Goloka Vrindavana, it will appear as if the jiva-souls have only gone for less than a moment.
The idea of sleeping and dreaming you are in the material creation is nonsense and not what's really going on, no, the jiva-souls do actually go to the material creation, but on return to the spiritual world, it will appear that they never left.
This is because material time does not register on the spiritual planets, nothing material can exist there just like darkness cannot exist in the presence of light.
The material creation is governed by the movement of time - past, present and future, thats effect on all matter is a constant state of decomposition or decay.
The material creation is as real as the spiritual planets, but unlike the spiritual planets that are permanent, the material creation is temporary.
Being in the material creation causes everything that the jiva-souls are involved with, to be temporary.
The eternal jiva-souls inside a material bodily vessel in the material creation, are in an unnatural condition because they are beginningless and endless, there is no death or birth for the jiva-souls.
There is no death or birth for the jiva-souls as Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 text 12 and text 20 teaches.
The jiva-souls have existed for "infinity" which means they are beginningless and endless.
Bhagavad Gita As It Is 1983 correct edition, Chapter 2 text 12-
"Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be." (BG Ch 2 text 12)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is 1983 correct edition, Chapter 2 text 20-
"For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." (BG Ch 2 text 20)
Srila Prabhupada's incorrect 1972 edition of Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 text 20 indicates the jiva-souls have a beginning when infact the jiva-souls are beginningless and endless.
The issue is with the 1972 edition of Bhagavad Gita As It Is where Chapter 2 text 20 wrongly includes-
"NOR HAVING ONCE BEEN"
This suggests the jiva-souls have a beginning. These words are not in the 1983 edition of Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 text 20.
In English "NOR HAVING ONCE BEEN" means the jiva-soul had a beginning, which is wrong because they are eternal.
Only in the material creation in a material bodily vessel is birth, youth, disease, middle age, old age and death experienced.
The material body wears out and decays, while the jiva-soul within is beginningless and endless.
Only in the material creation in a material bodily vessel is birth, youth, disease, middle age, old age and death experienced.
Not so in the spiritual worlds where the "eternal presence" of time means past and future has no effect on the journey through time, making everything eternally youthful and ever fresh.
In other words, nothing decays in the spiritual worlds, one's spiritual bodily form is eternally youthful, but can change if the jiva-soul chooses, depending on what pastime they voluntarily choose serve in with Krsna or Visnu.
Srila Prabhupada - "In the spiritual world one's relationship with Krsna is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower, I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna and become flower, voluntarily, and can change appearance if I want, from flower to a human form. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1 text 1-4 Melb, May 20, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada - "Just like we forget at night when we see some dream, we forget our identity, that "I am this. I am that. I am lying on the bed. I've got this good apartment." No. Everything is finished.
Again, this, when the dream is finished, we come to another dream: "Oh, this is my house. This is my family. This is my bank balance." This is going on.
One dream at night, one dream at daytime. But who is dreaming? That is the living entity (jiva-soul)
So his business is different. Not dreaming, day time dreaming and night time dreaming. He has to come to the actual platform. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
If he takes to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, that is his actual life, otherwise, he's in the dreamland. Daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī mama māyā duratyayā (BG 7.14). This is called māyā, illusion.
Night time dreaming and daytime dreaming. The night time dream... In this way, we are dreaming life after life. As human being, as animal, as tree, as aquatics. Jalajā nava-lakṣāṇi sthāvarā lakṣa-viṁśati. This evolutionary process is going on." (The Nectar of Devotion, Bombay, Dec 27, 1972)
The jiva-souls enter the material creation to experience their desires without Krsna. To do that they must get facility off Maha-Visnu which is a suitable material bodily vessel found within His dreams that are insync with their own desires.
Srila Prabhupada – "Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes-
"This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation."(SB, Canto 4 Ch 29 text 83)
Srila Prabhupada - "Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)
Maha-Visnu is dreaming everything in the material creation, His dreams include all bodily vessel and their facilities used by the jiva-souls (hired from Maha-Viṣṇu)
Srila Prabhupada - "Our contact with matter is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krsna consciousness, we break the dream." (Tokyo Japan 1972, SB, Canto 2 Ch 9 text 1)
As Prabhupada has explained, Krsna never forces the jiva-souls to surrender to Him, never forces them to love Him, that must be voluntary otherwise love can never exist between two unless there are voluntary reciprocal exchanges.
Srila Prabhupada - "Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from him, but you don't give. Oh, do you think it is very good? No. It is not good. That is not love. That is exploitation. If I go on simply taking from you, and if I don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation." (Lecture on BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, NY City, Nov 23, 1966)
Srila Prabhupāda – "Unless there are "two-persons", where is the question of love? Love means two persons, then there is exchange, then there is love. I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, God, then these things must be there." (Aug, 9, 1976, Tehran)
Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence, that is force." (LA, June 23, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada - "We have got the propensity to love. Love means somebody else. Love cannot be one or love cannot be executed only one, personally. There must be another one. I love somebody; somebody loves me, there must be lover, there must be beloved, and the transaction, then love." (Lecture on SB Canto 1 Ch, 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov, 12, 1973)
Srila Prabhupada - "The impersonalist philosophy is oneness, so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant." (Lecture on SB Canto 2 Ch, 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)
Srila Prabhupada - "Love cannot be one, or executed only by one, there must be two." (SB lecture Canto 1 Ch, 2 text 6, Delhi, Nov 12, 1973)
Srila Prabhupada - "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that you cannot become fall down, that is not independence. That is force. Therefore Krsna says, yathecchasi tathä kuru. "Now you do whatever you like." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975).×^×.
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