Where is the jiva-soul's original home?

While trapped in the material creation, God is more inclined to help those who first do everything they can to help themselves find a way out and return back home, back to Godhead and be with Krsna.

Only then will Krsna help you when He sees you are trying your very best to do everything you can to help yourself, by sending you a bonafide spiritual teacher or Guru. 

Real love is voluntary, and is never a one-sided or one-way street, where Krsna does everything for you.

Surrender to Krsna's pure genuine devotees does not mean Krsna takes away your freedom, sense of independent self and individuality to be qualified to enter the spiritual world, no, such bogus surrender is impersonalism.  

Srila Prabhupada – "The answer to your question about the marginal energy (having free will) is that the jiva-soul is always called the marginal energy whether he is in the spiritual world or in the material world." (Letter to Rayarama, December 2, 1968).

The marginal living entity has always had freedom (free will) therefore there is no question of the marginal living entity ever not having free will because free will in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana is perpetually part and parcel of all marginal living entities (jiva-tattva souls) make up.

The living entities originate from Goloka-Vrindavana and not the Impersonal Brahman, as Prabhupada explains.

Srila Prabhupada – ''Regarding your questions about how and from where did the conditioned souls fall, your first question if someone has a relationship with Lord Krsna on Krsnaloka (Goloka Vrindavana), does he ever fall down? The souls are endowed with minute independence as part of their nature and this minute independence may be utilized rightly or wrongly at anytime, so there is always a chance of falling down by misuse of one’s independence." (Letter to Jagadisa Prabhu, 4/25/1970)

Srila Prabhupada – "These spirit souls and all spirit souls are coming from Vaikuntha, but in these material worlds, they are taking various grades of bodies according to their material activities. There are no new souls. New and old are due to this material body, but the soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how there can be a new soul." (Letter to Jagadisa 7/9/1970)

Srila Prabhupada - "Regarding your questions concerning the spirit souls falling into Maya’s influence, it is not that those who have developed a passive relationship with Krsna are more likely to fall into nescient activities. Usually anyone who has developed his relationship with Krsna does not fall down in any circumstance, but because the independence is always there, the soul may fall down from any position or any relationship by misusing his independence." (Letter to Jagadisa 02/27/1970)

Srila Prabhupada - "But his relationship with Krsna is never lost, simply forgotten by the influence of maya so it maybe regained or revived by the process of hearing the Holy Name of Krsna and then the devotee engages himself in the service of the Lord which is his original or constitutional position. The relationship of the living entity with Krsna is eternal as both Krsna and the living entity are eternal; the process is one of revival only, nothing new.'' (Letter to Jagadisa 02/27/1970)

Srila Prabhupada - "In the broader sense, everyone comes from Krsnaloka (Goloka-Vrindavana). When one forgets Krsna, he is conditioned; when one remembers Krsna, he is liberated." (Letter to Mukunda, June 10, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "We cannot say therefore that we are not with Krsna. As soon as we try to become Lord, immediately, Maya covers us. Formerly, we were with Krsna in His lila or sport. But this covering of Maya may be of very, very, very, very long duration; therefore, many creations are coming and going." (Letter to Madhudvisa Swami June 1972 Australia)

Srila Prabhupada - "So, unless there is a possibility of misusing our free will, there is no question of freedom." (Dialectical Spiritualism, Critique of Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada – "So everyone can know that independence means one can use it properly, or one can misuse it. That is independence. If you make it one way only, that is not independence; that is force." (Los Angeles, June 23, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "Free will means that you can act wrongly. That is free will. Unless there is a chance of doing wrong or right, there is no question of free will. Where is free will then? If I act only one-sided, that means I have no free will. Because we act sometimes wrongly, that means free will."

Hayagriva - "A man may know better but still act wrongly."

Srila Prabhupada -"Yes, but that is free will. He misuses his. Just like a thief, he knows that his stealing; it is bad, but still, he does it. That is free will. He cannot check his greediness, so in spite of his knowing that he is doing wrong thing—he will be punished, he knows; he has seen another thief, he was punished, he was put into prison— everything he knows, but still he steals. Why? Misuse of free will. Unless there is misuse of free will, there is no question of free will." (Philosophy Discussion Rene Descartes)

Srila Prabhupada - ''Existence in the impersonal brahman (Brahmajyoti) is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. Those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition. The non-fallen condition is Krsna consciousness." (Letter to Revatinandana, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)

The following conversation took place in Melbourne, Australia, on June 25, 1974, between Srila Prabhupada and his disciples.

Devotee – "When we are in the spiritual sky and serving Krishna, we have a perfect relationship with Krsna, what causes us to fall down in the material world, because we’re already serving Krsna?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Because you desire to fall down. Here, it is explained that - don’t fall down."

Devotee – "Srila Prabhupada, I can’t understand why we should have an impure desire when we are already serving."

Srila Prabhupada – "Because you have got little freedom. Why is one not coming here and going to the liquor shop? It is his desire."

Devotee – "In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krsna did not want us to come to this material world. If Krsna did not want us to come, why are we here?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, you forced Krsna to allow you to come. Just like sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, "My dear son, do not do this. Do not go there." But he insists, "Oh, I must go. I must go." "All right, you go at your risk. That’s all. And you suffer. What can be done?” Because you are Son of God, you have got independence, full independence, almighty—therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. So God does not interfere with your little independence. If you persist, "I must go and enjoy independently," so God says, "All right, you can go." This is the position. You have to take sanction. That is a fact. But when you persist, God sanctions. And you come and enjoy." (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)

Question - Is there a place in the Spiritual World from where we can never fall down from?

Answer - No, it is not based on a place where you can never fall down from that keeps you in Vaikuntha, no, it does not work that way because it is based on free will, which means it is always your choice. 

If you were forced to stay there, then how can there be love? The choice to leave must always be there.

So many so-called Vaisnavas who consider themselves advanced sannyasis and gurus, can not understand what free will really means. They foolishly claim - "Not even the leaves fall from Vaikuntha." 

Such a comment is nonsense because the jiva-souls as those leaves, always have a choice.

To stay in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana is also based on what the jiva-souls want to do; they always have a choice as a unique individual. 

In other words, the jiva-souls can choose to leave the spiritual worlds at anytime, or stay and voluntarily become Krsna's or Visnu's servant. 

The point is they can reject the Lord if they want, even in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana. 

Only sentimentalists and those who deny the jiva-souls have free will in Vaikuntha (another expression of impersonalism) can not understand this.

Even with selfless emotions of loving devotion, the jiva-souls never lose their unique ability of free will and independent self expression, where one is personally always aware they can choose how to selflessly serve Krsna in their own unique way as the loving servant of the servant of Krsna.

The fact that one does not again fall from Krsna's personal Kingdom is the jiva-soul's responsibility, too and not just only Krsnas.

It is the jiva-soul's choice as well; it is their free will to choose, and no one else can choose for them, including Krsna.

Although the fact is, 90% of all jiva-souls do not fall down from Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana because they "choose not to fall down."

That choice to stay in Vaikuntha or leave is always with the marginal living entities or jiva-souls.

The jiva-souls or marginal living entities have 78.125% of Krsna's qualities, which puts them in the realm of having independence, identity, personality, individuality, and the ability to choose. This means the jiva-souls have the ability to agree or not agree with Krsna. 

The sense of individuality allows the jiva-souls the right to choose Krsna or choose to be separate from Krsna; this is also the meaning of free will.

Remember, Maya and the material energy do not exist in Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana, so Maya is unknown to the jiva-souls in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana.

However, free will, individuality, having independence, experiencing a unique sense of individual self, and the ability to express all these qualities, does exist as the constitutional makeup of each jiva-soul in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana. 

And if all those abilities are taken away, then we lose the ability to give and accept love; we become no better than dead stones.

Srila Prabhupada - "If you have no free will, then you are a stone. The stone has no free will. Do you want to be stone? Then, you must have free will! But don't misuse your free will. But don't try to become stone either. That is not life." (August 5, 1976, New Mayapur France)

Srila Prabhupada - “Because you are Son of God, you have got independence, full independence, almighty—therefore you have acquired the quality of your father. You have got little independence. So God does not interfere with your little independence." (Melbourne, Australia June 25, 1974)

No one forces the jiva-souls to stay in Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana; that choice always be the jiva-souls; otherwise, what is the point of having free will?

For loving exchanges to truly epxist with the jiva-soul, they must have the right to express themselves and choose to leave Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrindavana at any time; therefore, returning there is not necessarily permanent.

Srila Prabhupada – “You have got little independence; you can violate. Because you are part and parcel of God, God has got full independence, but you have got little independence, proportionately, because you are part and parcel, if he likes, he can return. That independence has to be accepted, little independence. We can misuse that. Krsna-bahirmukha haïä bhoga väïchä kare. That misuse is the cause of our falldown." (Mayapur, February 19, 1976)

Srila Prabhupada - "But can we predict that the process (returning back home back to Godhead) will be permanent? Can we predict that? Just like many prisoners leave the prison, but some come back.''

Srila Prabhupada - "No, there is no permanent effect because we have got little independence. There is nothing permanent because you can misuse your independence at any time."

Syamasundara - "And some come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes. Otherwise, there is no meaning of independence. Independence means you can do this; you can do that. "All right. Whatever you like."

Devotee - "Then he is so many times falling down, again and again, so will he eventually permanently come back?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No. There is no question of permanent because he has got independence, he can misuse his independence, and he can fall down. That's why when a man is released from the prison house, that does not mean permanently because he can come back again; the general law is NOT to come back. But if he likes, he can come back; otherwise, what is the meaning of independence? Just like one becomes free from the prison house, naturally, he should not go there again." (Discussions with Syamasundara > Henri Bergson)

The jiva-souls have 78.125% of Krsna's qualities; they are minor expansions of Krsna endowed with individuality that allows them to experience an independent personal sense of self that is separate from Krsna. This allows the jiva-souls to make their own decisions and choices.

Therefore, Krsna does not interfere with the jiva-soul's free will because it is part of the eternal constitutional make of all jiva-souls.

Krsna, never at any point, did not give freedom or free will to the marginal living entities (jiva-soul) because they have always had free will in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana without beginning or end. 

Free will allows the jiva-souls to experience individuality, loving reciprocation, and independent service and be responsible for their actions.

This, however, does not mean all jiva-soul's are independent from Krsna's control of all things, that is not possible. 

At all times, the jiva-souls are always dependent on Krsna or His expansions even as independent individuals.

So, the jiva-souls always remain independent individual living entities but depend on Krsna and His expansions in both the spiritual worlds and material worlds.

So, even though the jiva-souls are an expansion of Krsna, the jiva-souls are not one with Krsna in personality. Both are independent, having their own unique personality, although Krsna is always in control because He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and the cause of all causes.

On the other hand, the loving expressions between Krsna and all His Visnu-tattva (93.75% of Krsna's qualities) and Visnu-sakti-tattva (also 93.75% of Krsna's qualities) expansions are very different from the individual jiva-soul (78.125% of Krsna's qualities) because they ARE Krsna, they are one with Krsna, they are Krsna playing a different role.

The individual jiva-souls are not one with Krsna but are independent thinking living entities with their own sense of self and individual personality. 

This makes them one in purpose voluntarily serving Krsna when their full potential as Krsna's eternal servant is fully realized.

There is always a choice.*. *.