Tuesday, June 13, 2023

Srila Prabhupāda explains the difference between "anti-matter" and "matter" in the below conversation with devotees.

Although this difficult to understand, it begins by understanding that Krsna as Visnu is "in and behind" EVERYTHING.

The jiva-souls, who are also in the atom, are fully "active" in the spiritual world but their activity is greatly "restricted" in the material world restricted within a material bodily vessel. 

There are 8 million 400 thousand species of life in the material world of which only 400 thousand species are human and can therefore exhibit a little free will.

The other 8 million lower species of life have no free will and act simply on the instincts of 

eating,

Sleeping,

mating,

defending

Furthermore, the presence of life is everywhere (sarva-gatah)

Even in both the material atom and impersonal brahmajyoti, the jiva-souls exist but are "inactive or dormant," almost dead.

Everything, both matter (lifeless) and anti-matter (life) come from Krsna.

Both "anti-matter" and "matter" are what makes up the Spiritual Sky, 75% is anti-matter and 25% is matter.

Dead matter like stone exists in the material creation however, the consciousness of the jiva-souls as/in that stone, are completely dormant, which means almost dead (but are really totally inactive) hence dead matter, another aspect of impersonalism.

The only difference between "matter," where the jiva-souls are mostly dormant and inactive, and "anti-matter", is the jiva-souls are fully active and awake.

Everything is originally based on "personalism" or spiritual energy known as "anti-matter" (life) who are unlimited individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) and also Visnu-tattva and Visnu-"sakti"-tattva more direct expansions of Krsna, who is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.

However, the "material creation" is where "anti-matter" (jiva-souls) are dormant (inactive) making them "matter" and therefore inert in an impersonal existence where they appear to be devoid of life but within the material atom both the jiva-soul and Visnu reside.

This is different to understand however, the origin of all matter (devoid of life) is from anti-matter (life).

The fact is "matter" is NOT devoid of life, it IS existing there but in a dormant inactive state, this is because both the jiva-soul and Visnu are in the material atom.

1/4 of the Spiritual Sky is "matter" and therefore "inactive."

3/4 of the Spiritual Sky is "anti-matter" which means spiritually active.

Dead matter explained above is also part of the spiritual sky but is where the individual jiva-souls are inactive or dormant, hence "appearing" as dead matter.

Other jiva-souls in the material creation are covered and restricted by this same matter in different grades.

All matter is made up of atoms with both Paramatma (Visnu) and the dormant (inactive) individual jiva-souls are present there in the atom.

The natural full potential of the jiva-soul is to be fully "active" ultimately in the service of Krsna.

God (Visnu) and the individual jiva-souls are always together even within the "atom"

Srila Prabhupada - "Just try to understand. From the sastra, you understand that andantara-stham: “God lives within the atom and when the God is there, the living entity is also there. This much you try to understand. Because God and living entity always remain together, as two friends. God is trying to save this fallen friend. That is the information from Upanisad. So when God is there in the atom, the living entity is also there." 

Tamala Krsna - "Srila Prabhupada, someone asked a question the other day about the atom which I couldn’t give the answer to. His question is that if we say that within the atom the living entity, the jiva, is present, and life symptoms means six symptoms of birth, growth."

Srila Prabhupada - "That’s all right. Their life symptoms has not yet come. But there is."

Jayadvaita - "Potential."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes."

Tamala Krsna - "His question was, it was sort of a dual question. At what time, or what…? Just like at the time of disintegration of this body, the living entity leaves this body and the body disintegrates, so does the atomic body also disintegrate when the living entity leaves it and moves to a higher body?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Atomic body? Atomic body means material body. Unless you are free from this material body, the atomic body will go on with you. That means unless you are mukta, the atomic body will go on. Mind, intelligence, ego — they are also atomic, finer atomic body (subtle body)."

Tamala Krsna - "But within each atom the living entity is present?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, God is present; therefore living entity is present."

Tamala Krsna - "So the living entity is present within the atom just as I am present within this body. When I leave this body, my body breaks apart."

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes, you leave this body, enter another body."

Tamala Krsna - "Right."

Srila Prabhupada - "By nature’s law."

Tamala Krsna - "And when I leave this body, the body breaks apart."

Srila Prabhupada - "Eh?"

Tamala Krsna - "When I leave this body, the body dis…"

Srila Prabhupada - "The body is already atomic combination."

Tamala Krsna - "Yes."

Srila Prabhupada - "So it remains atomic combination. You leave the body."

Tamala Krsna - "Yes. It remains…"

Srila Prabhupada - "You leave the house. That does not mean the house is finished."

Tamala Krsna - "Right, I can understand that."

Hamsaduta - "He’s asking that if the soul leaves the atomic particle, then does the particle break apart. Isn’t it?"

Srila Prabhupada - "No, no. You have not left atomic particle."

Tamala Krsna - "No, but you, you’re… I think you were saying that within the atom there’s also a living entity. So when that living entity leaves the atomic particle does the particle break apart? Or doesn’t it? I mean what…?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Just try to understand. From the sastra, you understand that andantara-stham: “God lives within the atom."

Tamala Krsna - "Yes."

Srila Prabhupada - "And when the God is there, living entity’s also there. This… This much you try to understand. Because God and living entity, they remain together, as two friends. God is trying to save this fallen friend. That is the information from Upanisad. So when God is there, the living entity is also there."

Rupanuga - "So Paramatma and jiva-soul are always together." 

Srila Prabhupada - "Yes."

Pancadravida - "The jiva-souls inside the atoms, are they like impersonalists who are in the Brahman?" 

Srila Prabhupada - "That you consider. He has not developed his consciousness. Practically, it is like dead." (Morning Walk April 4 1975, Mayapur)

Existence in the impersonal brahman or dormant in the atom, are also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness. 

One may be in that "inactive" condition for a very, very, very long time however, such a "fallen" condition is also only temporary even if it lasts for millions of life times of Lord Brahma.

Lord Brahma lives for 311 trillion 400 billion human years.

Those jiva-souls who enter the impersonal Brahmajyoti, eventually fall down from there, but sadly they have spent so long a time dormant there in the impersonal Brahmajyoti they foolishly think it is their origin.

The nature of the jiva-souls are to be always "active" and NOT "inactive" or dormant. Those who are dormant in the brahman effulgence, or inactive within the atom, are also in a fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from an already fallen condition. 

Being dormant in the atom, the impersonal Brahmajyoti or in the Body of Maha-Visnu, are all unnatural conditions of consciousness, and therefore a "fallen conditioned state."

When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition (Krsna Consciousness), and that non-fallen condition is with Visnu on the Vaikuntha planets, or with Krsna in Goloka-Vrindavana. 

Srila Prabhupada - "The next question, about the living entities falling down in this material world are NOT from the impersonal brahman. We do not accept anyone elevated to the brahman effulgence as actually liberated. Existence in the impersonal Brahmajyoti is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness and a fallen condition therefore, those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition. When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition and that non-fallen condition is Krsna cconsciousness. So long one can maintain pure Krsna consciousness he is NOT fallen down. As soon as the jiva-soul becomes out of Krsna consciousness, immediately he is fallen. So, we do not accept anyone elevated to the brahman effulgence as actually liberated." (Letter to  Revatinandana dasa, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)

Being an "inactive" (dormant) so-called spiritual spark in the Brahmajyoti, is an already fallen unnatural condition of the jiva-soul, who in their full potential are a spiritual bodily PERSON fully active like Krsna in the spiritual world serving Him, which is the jiva-soul's natural eternal home.

Krsna's effulgence is known as the dormant (impersonal) Brahmajyoti made up of a collective of "inactive"(dormant) individual jiva-souls appearing there as spiritual sparks in their "fallen conditional state."

As said above, appearing in that "fallen condition" as a spiritual spark is the unnatural condition of the jiva-soul, who in their full potential IS a PERSON as a spiritual bodily form eternally made of-

Sat,

Cit,

Ananda,

Vigraha.

Which means-

Eternity,

Knowledge,

Bliss,

Bodily spiritual form.

The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls), is a "two-arm form" like Krsna's Body.

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is NOT formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture on BG, Ch 2 Text 14 - Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "As living spiritual souls we are all originally Krsna conscious entities, but due to our association with matter from time immemorial, our consciousness has now become polluted by the material atmosphere." (Hare Krsna "Happening record album" New York City, Dec 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "So, even in the Vaikuntha, if I desire that ‘Why shall I serve Krsna? Why not become Krsna?’ I immediately fall down." (July 8, 1976 in Washington, D.C.)

The jiva-soul's original form is having the same bodily features as Krsna, sat, cit, ananda, vigraha which means eternity, knowledge, bliss and FORM. Remember, the individual jiva-soul (marginal living entity) is an eternal PERSON, as a spiritual body, who is beginningless and endless.

The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is a two-arm form like Krsna's Form and NOT an impersonal bodiless spiritual spark that originated from the impersonal Brahmajyoti, tatastha-sakti or the Body of Maha-Visnu.

The "jiva-souls," who naturally belong in the spiritual energy (Goloka-Vrindavana) as individual spiritual PERSONS with Krsna, are eternal PERSONS and are called "marginal living entities" because they are influenced by either the spiritual energy or the material energy explained as follows by Prabhupada.

Srila Prabhupada – “The jiva-souls are Krsna’s marginal energy. Marginal energy means the jiva-souls may be under the control of the spiritual energy, or they may be under the control of material energy. But when the jiva-souls are under the control of the material energy, that is their precarious condition, struggle for existence. And when they are under spiritual energy, that is their original position and life of freedom.” (Los Angeles, Nov 23, 1968)

Srila Prabhupada - "Regarding your question about our relationship with Srimati Radharani, She is the internal energy, we are marginal energy. Marginal means sometimes internal, sometimes external. When we are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. Therefore, we are called marginal energy; we can be either this way or that way. But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt." (Letter to Lilavati - Allston, Mass 25 April, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "We (the jiva-souls) are marginal energy (jiva-souls) Marginal means sometimes internal, sometimes external. When we are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. Therefore, we are called marginal energy (jiva-souls); we can be either this way or that way. But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt." (Letter to Lilavati, Allston, Mass 25 April, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "The material energy, called as Maya, is also one of the multipotencies of the Lord, as much as we (the jiva-souls) are also marginal potency of the Lord. The living entities (jiva-souls) are described as superior energy than matter, when the superior energy is in contact with inferior energy, it becomes an incompatible situation. But when the supreme marginal potency (jiva-souls) are in contact with the spiritual potency, Hara, it becomes the happy, normal condition of the living entity." (The Happening Album, New York City, Dec 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "You are also energy; you are marginal energy (jiva-soul). Marginal energy means you (the jiva-souls) may be under the control of the spiritual energy or you may be under the control of material energy—your marginal position. But when you are under the control of the material energy, that is your precarious condition, struggle for existence. And when you are under spiritual energy, that is your life of freedom." (Introduction to BG As It Is, Los Angeles, Nov 23, 1968)

Srila Prabhupada – “The jiva-souls are Krsna's marginal energy. Marginal energy means we can live either in this external energy or in the internal energy, in between. So at the present moment we are living in the external energy. But this external energy is also Kṛṣṇa's energies, God's energy. It is not different from Him. But the external energy means we are captivated by the external energy. But the external energy is not permanent. The internal energy is permanent. The spiritual world is permanent, and the jiva-souls are also permanent as Bhagavad Gita As It Is chapter 2 text 20 (1983 edition) reveals.” (Lecture BG, Ch 9 Text 4 - Melb, Australia April 23, 1976)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain.” (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)

Srila Prabhupada - "The human form is the full manifestation of the jiva-soul." (Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is NOT formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture on BG, Ch 2 Text 14 - Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee - "What is the form of the spiritual body. If the spirit soul is non-material, what is the form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG 2.14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

As said above, the full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is a two-arm, two leg spiritual bodily form like Krsna's Body, and do NOT originate from the impersonal Brahmajyoti as impersonalists foolishly believe.

Being a "marginal" living entity also includes having free will, that allows the jiva-souls to have the choice to be influenced by the spiritual energy (the jiva-souls nature position and full potential), or influenced by the material energy (unnatural conditioned state). 

As said above, the real meaning of "marginal" means the jiva-souls can choose to be influenced by either the spiritual energy, or the material energy based on their free will. There is no origin to the individual jiva-souls, they are eternally parts and parcel of Krsna and just as old as Krsna.

Devotee - "What is the form of the spiritual body. If the spirit soul is non-material, what is the form?"

Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG, Ch 2 Text 14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)

Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"

Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."

Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"

Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."

Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"

Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB, Canto 6 Ch 1.1-4 - Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)

The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are "separate" independent "persons" in the spiritual world from Krsna and His unlimited "direct" Visnu-tattva and sakti-tattva expansions of Himself, who are the eternal inhabitants of Vrindavana.

Srila Prabhupada - "The "immediate" expansions of the Lord are called svāṁśa or "personal direct" expansions (Visnu-tattva). The "separated" expansions of the Lord are called vibhinnāṁśa - jiva-tattva or independent jiva-souls like us." (BG 10.37, Purport)

Each individual jiva-soul in the spiritual world can "choose" to "voluntarily" serve Krsna in an unlimited variety of ways as an unlimited varieties of bodily forms, or even reject Krsna if they choose to do so, and enter or return to the impermanent material world.

Therefore, the original eternal bodily feature of the jiva-soul is not some impersonal formless spark in the inactive Brahmajyoti, or Brahman as the impersonalists and mayavadis believe, nor does the jiva-souls originate from the dreams of Maha-Visnu, whom they go to AFTER entering the material creation from Vaikuntha, and then provided with a variety of material bodily vessels.

Only the material bodily vessels or costumes and paraphernalia the visiting jiva-souls have in the material world all come from Maha-Visnu, but NOT the jiva-souls, they do not originate from Maha-Visnu or the impersonal brahmajyoti, they come (fall) from Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana. 

The material bodily vessels are "hired" from the dreams of Maha-Visnu by the jiva-souls so they can enter His material creation in a suitable material bodily container that matches their desires that are independent from serving Krsna.  

Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this body, not the owner of the material senses. The senses are "hired" from the Supreme Lord. This is very subtle understanding; one should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966, New York City USA)

All the material bodily vessels in the material creation belong to Maha-Visnu and must be aquired from Him in order to enter the material worlds.

However, all such bodily vessels in the are temporary and subject to decay, nothing made of matter lasts forever, it is in a constant state of decomposition.

This causes the eternal jiva-souls (marginal living entities) within those material bodies, who are visiting from the spiritual worlds as passengers in those bodily vessels, to continue taking birth after birth in the material world and continue trying to satisfy their desires and material senses.

The jiva-souls, who eternally have their own personality separate from Krsna's Personality, can "choose" to "voluntarily" serve Krsna in an unlimited variety of ways, or reject Him and enter the material world.

The jiva-souls are an eternal spiritual bodily form that has always looked like Krsna as their "original" spiritual bodily form - two-arms, two legs, etc in the spiritual world, and have their own unique personality separate from the Krsna's Personality.

Also it is from Goloka Vrindavana that some jiva-souls choose to enter the Vaikuntha planets and appear there in a blue four armed form similar to Lord Visnu.

The appearance of eternal youth only exists on the Vaikuntha planets, where as in Goloka Vrindavana one does not have a body that is blue like Krsnas, there it is different with more variety of bodily forms.

It is one's "rasa" that is eternal, but changable among other eternal bodies, what ever body that maybe, like Krsna's uncle, parents, the old shop owner etc.

Bodily appearance there is according to pastime, everyone does not look the same in Goloka-Vrindavana like they do on the Vaikuntha planets.

Srila Prabhupada – "This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 Text 83)

The meaning of "marginal" energy explained here. 

The individual jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are collectively known as Krsna's "marginal energy or potency" and means the jiva-souls, who are by nature, spiritual beings who are part of Krsna's internal energy, can be either under the influence of the spiritual energy, or the material energy. 

Thus, the jiva-souls are on the "margin" inbetween matter (material energy) and anti-matter (spiritual energy) 

This marginal energy or potency is NOT some place in the Spiritual Sky where the jiva-souls have originated from, no, the marginal potency or realm, who ARE the jiva-souls, have NO origin.

The individual jiva-souls are everywhere in both the spiritual and material worlds and always have existed without having any origin nor will they ever cease to be.

The word "marginal" simply means the jiva-souls are under the influence of either the spiritual energy, or the material energy.  

Marginal means the jiva-souls ( who are anti-matter) are in-between the influence of matter and anti-matter. 

In actual fact, the jiva-souls are in-between the spiritual energy (realm) and the material energy (realm), this is why they are called marginal (in-between).

So, clearly the marginal potency is NOT a place where jiva-souls come from, the marginal potency ARE the individual jiva-souls who were never created and have no origin, nor will they ever cease to be as Bhagavad Gita As It Is explains.

Many have misunderstood these facts about what "marginal" really means. It is NOT some place in outer space jiva-souls are generated from. 

Being “generated” from the marginal plane does NOT mean the jiva-souls “originated” from some "so called place" in the Spiritual Sky, like tatastha-sakti, the impersonal brahmajyoti or the Body of Maha-Visnu that some Vedic schools of thought foolishly claim. 

The fact is the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are beginningless and endless and are just as old as Krsna.this 

The jiva-souls (marginal living entities) were NEVER created.

Being "marginal" means in-between and includes having free will, or having the choice to choose "this side or that side," which means being influenced by the spiritual energy (the jiva-souls nature position and full potential) or influenced by the material energy (unnatural conditioned state) 

As said above, the real meaning of "marginal" means the jiva-souls can choose to be influenced by either the spiritual energy, or the material energy based on their free will.

There is no origin to the individual jiva-souls, they are eternally parts and parcel of Krsna and just as old as Krsna.

Srila Prabhupada – “The jiva-souls are Krsna's marginal energy. Marginal energy means we can live either in this external energy or in the internal energy, in between. So at the present moment we are living in the external energy. But this external energy is also Kṛṣṇa's energies, God's energy. It is not different from Him. But the external energy means we are captivated by the external energy. But the external energy is not permanent. The internal energy is permanent. The spiritual world is permanent, and the jiva-souls are also permanent as Bhagavad Gita As It Is chapter 2 text 12 and text 20 (1983 edition) reveals.” (Lecture BG Ch 9 Text 4 - Melb, Australia April 23, 1976)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 text 20 explains the jiva-souls have existed for “infinity,” his means, just like Krsna, they are beginning less and endless, and were NEVER created-

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain.” (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)

Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 text 12 also confirms the jiva-souls were NEVER created.

This is because they have no origin and have existed for infinity like Krsna has, as Krsna explains-

Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG, Ch 2 text 12)

Srila Prabhupada – “There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?” (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 7/9/1970)

There is no origin to Krsna's marginal energy (an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls), who have existed for as long as Krsna has existed which is eternity. 

The jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS and can never be destroyed, terminated or extinguished, the jiva-souls are indestructible.

Therefore, jiva-souls do NOT originate or are generated from the "marginal plane" because there is no origin for the marginal living entity or jiva-souls, they are just as old as Krsna and like Krsna, were NEVER created.

The "jiva-souls (marginal living entities)," who naturally belong in the spiritual energy (Goloka-Vrindavana) as individual spiritual PERSONS with Krsna, are called "marginal living entities" because they are influenced by either the spiritual energy or the material energy explained as follows by Prabhupada.

Srila Prabhupada – “The jiva-souls are Krsna’s marginal energy. Marginal energy means the jiva-souls may be under the control of the spiritual energy, or they may be under the control of material energy. But when the jiva-souls are under the control of the material energy, that is their precarious condition, struggle for existence. And when they are under spiritual energy, that is their original position and life of freedom.” (Los Angeles, Nov 23, 1968)

Srila Prabhupada - "We (the jiva-souls) are marginal energy (jiva-souls) Marginal means sometimes internal, sometimes external. When we are under the internal energy, that is our normal life, and when we are under the external energy, that is our abnormal life. Therefore, we are called marginal energy (jiva-souls); we can be either this way or that way. But being qualitatively one with the purusa, our tendency is to remain in the internal energy. Being in the external energy is our artificial attempt." (Letter to Lilavati, Allston, Mass 25 April, 1969)

Srila Prabhupada - "The material energy, called as Maya, is also one of the multipotencies of the Lord, as much as we (the jiva-souls) are also marginal potency of the Lord. The living entities (jiva-souls) are described as superior energy than matter, when the superior energy is in contact with inferior energy, it becomes an incompatible situation. But when the supreme marginal potency (jiva-souls) are in contact with the spiritual potency, Hara, it becomes the happy, normal condition of the living entity." (The Happening Album, New York City, Dec 1966)

Srila Prabhupada - "You are also energy; you are marginal energy (jiva-soul). Marginal energy means you (the jiva-souls) may be under the control of the spiritual energy or you may be under the control of material energy—your marginal position. But when you are under the control of the material energy, that is your precarious condition, struggle for existence. And when you are under spiritual energy, that is your life of freedom." (Introduction to BG, As It Is, Los Angeles, California Nov 23, 1968)

Of course, in the material creation there is almost no free will while trapped in the species of material life, there is only the instinct of- 

eating, 

sleeping, 

mating, 

defending.

The human species are also directed by karmic reactions (the reactions to their pious and impious actions) because in the human material bodily form the living entities are responsible for their actions good or bad.

Real freedom or free will only fully exists in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.

Understanding free will and one's eternal individual right to make their own choices and contributions in the spiritual world, is the constitutional make up of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls).*^^*.


















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