Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 4 Chapter 28 Text 53 and Canto 4 Chapter 28 Text 55, reveals that the marginal living entity's (jiva-soul's) original home is with Visnu in the Vaikuntha planets, or with Krsna in Goloka-Vrindavana.
We are NOT suppose to be in this decaying material creation, or after becoming frustrated with it, trying to escape the active material existence in the material creation, by becoming inactive by attempting to extinguish one's existence, by entering a dormant state in the impersonal Brahmajyoti.
Such a "dormant state" in the impersonal Brahmajyoti, even though lasts for a very, very, very long time, is also temporary.
It is said one's existence in the impersonal Brahmajyoti lasts for many, many, many life times of Lord Brahma, which is 311 trillion and 400 billion human years long, so long that many foolishly believe the impersonal Brahmajyoti is the jiva-soul's origin, which is nonsense.
Srila Prabhupada - "The next question, about the living entities falling down in this material world are NOT from the impersonal brahman. We do not accept anyone elevated to the brahman effulgence as actually liberated. Existence in the impersonal Brahmajyoti is also within the category of non-Krsna consciousness and a fallen condition therefore, those who are in the brahman effulgence are also in the fallen condition, so there is no question of falling down from a fallen condition.
When fall takes place, it means falling down from the non-fallen condition and that non-fallen condition is Krsna cconsciousness. So long one can maintain pure Krsna consciousness he is NOT fallen down.
As soon as he becomes out of Krsna consciousness immediately he is fallen down. It does not matter where a living entity stays.
In the material world also there are different stages of living conditions, and to remain in the brahman effulgence is also another phase of that fallen condition.
Just like in the Bhagavad-gita it is stated that conditioned souls by their pious activities are elevated to the higher planetary system, but as soon as the stock of pious activities is finished he again comes down on the earthly planet.
Similarly, those who are elevated beyond the planetary system to the brahma effulgence, they are also prone to fall down as much as a living entity from the higher planetary system.
As such those who are thinking that they are liberated by being situated in brahman effulgence are described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam as impurely intelligent.
In other words, they are actually not liberated, and because they are not actually liberated they again come down to the material world as much as a living entity elevated to the higher planetary system comes down to this earthly planet.
So, we do not accept anyone elevated to the brahman effulgence as actually liberated." (Letter to Revatinandana dasa, Los Angeles 13 June, 1970)
Being an "inactive" (dormant) so-called spiritual spark in the Brahmajyoti, is an already fallen unnatural condition of the jiva-soul, who in their full potential are a spiritual bodily PERSON fully active like Krsna in the spiritual world serving Him, which is the jiva-soul's natural eternal home.
Krsna's effulgence is known as the dormant (impersonal) Brahmajyoti made up of a collective of "inactive"(dormant) individual jiva-souls appearing there as spiritual sparks in their "fallen conditional state."
As said above, appearing in that "fallen condition" as a spiritual spark is the unnatural condition of the jiva-soul, who in their full potential IS a PERSON as a spiritual bodily form eternally made of-
Sat,
Cit,
Ananda,
Vigraha.
Which means,
Eternity,
Knowledge,
Bliss,
Bodily spiritual form.
The full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls), is a "two-arm form" like Krsna's Body.
Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul is NOT formless; it has got form, the spirit soul always has form and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. But with our material eyes at the present, our gross eyes, we cannot see these facts; therefore we foolishly believe the jiva-souls have no form." (Lecture on BG 2.14 - Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)
Devotee - "What is the form of the spiritual body. If the spirit soul is non-material, what is the form?"
Srila Prabhupāda - "There is form, just like this material body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. You have got legs; therefore your pant has got legs. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul always has got form, and is expressed as hands, legs, heads, everything. The spirit soul is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say and foolishly believe it has no form." (Lecture BG 2.14, Mexico, Feb 14, 1975)
As said above, the full potential and original feature of all marginal living entities (jiva-souls) is a two-arm, two leg spiritual bodily form like Krsna's Body, and do NOT originate from the impersonal Brahmajyoti as impersonalists foolishly believe.
Devotee – "Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?"
Srila Prabhupada – "Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Krsna, two hands, two legs."
Hari-sauri – "How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?"
Srila Prabhupada – "[describing material form first]: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul."
Hari-sauri - "They are covered in the spiritual world?"
Srila Prabhupada - "Not in the spiritual world, there that is voluntary, some devotee wants to serve Krsna as flower; they become flower there. If I want to be a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Krsna, he becomes flower, voluntarily, and he can change his, from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Krsna as cow, he serves Krsna as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved, anything. It is inconceivable, yet a fact." (SB Canto 6.1.1-4 - Melb, Australia May 20, 1975)
The jiva-souls are eternal spiritual living PERSONS and can never be destroyed, terminated or extinguished, the jiva-souls are indestructible.
Srila Prabhupada - "The "immediate" expansions of the Lord are called svāṁśa or "personal direct" expansions (Visnu-tattva). The "separated" expansions of the Lord are called vibhinnāṁśa - jiva-tattva or independent jiva-souls like us." (BG 10.37, Purport)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 text 20 explains the jiva-souls have existed for “infinity” This means, just like Krsna, they are beginning less and endless, and were NEVER created-
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain.” (BG, Ch 2 text 20 “corrected” 1983 edition)
Bhagavad Gita As It Is Chapter 2 text 12 also confirms the jiva-souls were NEVER created nor will they ever cease to be. This is because they have no origin and have existed for infinity like Krsna has, as Krsna explains-
Bhagavad Gita As It Is - “Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.” (BG 2.12)
Srila Prabhupada – “There are no new souls, new and old are due to this material body, but the jiva-soul is never born and never dies, so if there is no birth, how can there be new souls?” (Letter to Jagadisa dasa, 7/9/1970)
There is no origin to Krsna's marginal energy (an unlimited number of individual jiva-souls), who have existed for as long as Krsna has existed which is eternity.
From Srimad Bhagavatam Krsna directly asks the jiva-soul now trapped in the material creation,
"Do you remember Me!"
Therefore, how can you remember what you never knew? This clearly means we all came from Goloka Vrindavana or Vaikuntha and from there entered the material creation.
The jiva-souls did NOT originate from the inactive Brahmajyoti as fools believe.
The mysterious workings of Maha-Visnu's material creation works in a way that not even science fiction writers imagine, all material bodily vessels originate from the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
The jiva-souls (marginal living entities) who choose to the enter the material creation, must go to Maha-Visnu to get a suitable material bodily vessel from Him (from what He has ALREADY dreamed) that is in sync with what the fallen jiva-souls mistaking desires.
All material bodies are provided to the jiva-souls by Maha-Visnu who reject Krsna and Visnu.
All material facilities are provided by Maha-Visnu to those jiva-souls who can no longer stay in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana because of their rejection of Krsna or Visnu.
No jiva-souls (marginal living entities) originate from Maha-Visnu, they only move in/through His dreams (a material bodily pathway) according to their desires in their journey into the material creation.
There are unlimited material bodily vessels available to the jiva-souls that instantly place them in Maha-Visnu's material creation.
And the jiva-souls (marginal living entities), just like Krsna, were NEVER created and have no origin.
Krsna and the jiva-souls are like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays that cannot exist without each other, therefore Krsna and the jiva-souls have ALWAYS existed and were never created.
Although the REAL home of the jiva-souls is always in either the Vaikuntha planets of Lord Visnu, or Krsna's central planet of Goloka-Vrindavana and NOT the temporary mundane material creation, or merged inactively (dormant) in the impersonal Brahmajyoti.
From Maha-Visnu's point of view, the movement through material time's past, present and future all exist simultaneously, and is always there as a "permanent pathway" that unlimited jiva-souls are continuously moving through.
Srila Prabhupada – "This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes-
"This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29 Text 83)
Srila Prabhupada – "Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29.2b)
Srila Prabhupada – "Our contact with matter is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krsna consciousness, we break the dream." (Tokyo Japan 1972 lecture on SB)
Srila Prabhupada – "Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus there is no question of past, present or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29.2b)
The material bodily roadway or pathway is where the jiva-souls moves through past, present and future from its start (birth) to its end (death)
Each material bodily vessel's pathway comes from the already "dreamed" dreams of Maha-Visnu.
The visiting jiva-souls who enter the material creation MUST obtain (hire) a material bodily vessel first from Maha-Visnu's dreams.
Every material bodily vessel in the material creation must be first "hired" from Maha-Visnu who owns them all.
Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this body, not the owner of the senses. The senses are "hired" from the Supreme Lord. This is very subtle understanding, one should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966 NY City USA)
Each individual jiva-soul in the spiritual world can "choose" to "voluntarily" serve Krsna in an unlimited variety of ways as an unlimited varieties of bodily forms, or even reject Krsna if they choose and enter or return to the impermanent material world.
In the material world, each material bodily vessel is always available for "hire" to the jiva-souls, and are continuously available to all visiting jiva-souls who also choose to enter the temporary decaying material creation.
The REAL home of the jiva-souls is always in either the Vaikuntha planets of Lord Visnu, or Krsna's central planet of Goloka-Vrindavana and NOT the temporary mundane material creation, or merged inactively (dormant) in the impersonal Brahmajyoti.
From Maha-Visnu's point of view, the movement through material time's past, present and future all exist simultaneously, and is always there as a "permanent pathway" that unlimited jiva-souls are continuously moving through.
Srila Prabhupada – “This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream. Actually all existence in the material world is the dream of Maha-Visnu." (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29 Text 83)
Srila Prabhupada – “Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature.” (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)
Srila Prabhupada – “Factually all of material existence is only a dream, there is no past, present or future. Past and present happiness are merely dreams.” (SB, Canto 4 Ch 29 text 2b)
Each material bodily "pathway" that the visiting jiva-soul travels on, comes from the already "dreamed" dreams of Maha-Visnu.
Srila Prabhupada - "The spirit soul unfortunately misuses this God-given minute free will and falls into the dark well of nescience and illusion. Once the spirit soul takes shelter of māyā, the illusory material energy, he develops the material qualities of goodness, passion, and ignorance.
The spirit soul loses his original characteristics and develops a new nature, which is controlled by the three modes of material nature, and this continues until such time as he transcends them. His actions are prompted accordingly.
If it happened in any other way, then material variegatedness would not be visible in this phenomenal world. So, if a person fails to inform himself about the very subtle laws and workings of material nature, and at the same time he argues that all activities are sanctioned and inspired by the Supreme Lord, then he is reducing the Supreme Lord's position and making Him out to be partial and unjust.
The Lord never favors one and discriminates against another. Factually, He advises everyone to give up all material activities, which are by nature unstable and temporary. Because of forgetfulness of God, a man becomes an eternal victim of ignorance, which then colours all his actions." (Renunciation Through Wisdom 1.9)
Within Maha-Visnu's material creation exists every possible "dream" to fulfil every desire the visiting jiva-souls have, every scenario they can come up with is eternally existing in Maha-Visnu's dreams.
This means the jiva-soul's ability to express "free will" is already factored into the equation of the destiny of each material bodily vessel.
Bhagavad-gītā As It Is Chapter 11 Text 7-
"O Arjuna, whatever you wish to see, behold at once in this body of Mine! This universal form can show you whatever you now desire to see and whatever you may want to see in the future. Everything moving and nonmoving is here completely, in one place."
Purport by Srila Prabhupada - "No one can see the entire universe while sitting in one place. Even the most advanced scientist cannot see what is going on in other parts of the universe. But a devotee like Arjuna can see everything that exists in any part of the universe. Kṛṣṇa gives him the power to see anything he wants to see, past, present and future. Thus by the mercy of Kṛṣṇa, Arjuna is able to see EVERYTHING!" (BG, As It Is Ch 11 Text 7)
The visiting jiva-souls who enter the material creation and obtain (hire) a material bodily "blue-print" from Maha-Visnu's dreams, are already a set reality from its beginning to its end but simultaneously NEVER interferes with the "free will" of the jiva-souls.
Once the jiva-souls have entered one of Maha-Visnu's dream realities (material bodily vessels), nothing in that bodily pathway can be changed.
Also, each material bodily pathway is repeatedly available and continuously re-occupied by other visiting jiva-souls who have also chosen to enter the temporary material creation and have those same desires.
"Linear-time" is movement from past to present and then to future that is a pathway that moves through the space-time continuum.
In other words "linear-time" is where time is seen sequentially, as a series of events that are unfolding along a pathway, from its beginning, middle and end.
Seeing the entire journey on a long winding road all at once (the material bodies journey), one sees where the road began, its middle and its end.
This is like seeing ABOVE linear time.
Maha-Visnu and rare yogis and devotees can see ABOVE linear time, just like one sees an entire roadway from above, its beginning, middle and end, all at Visnu's dreams, His collection of material bodily vessels from His permanent volt of dreams (material bodily vessels) lived out by a visiting jiva-soul (marginal living entity) in normal linear time.
All material bodily vessels are like costumes that are "hired out" constantly from the costume shop owner Maha-Visnu to the visiting jiva-souls to the material creation.
All of the jiva-soul's desires, choices and expressions of "free will" are factored in before the jiva-soul is given a particular material bodily vessel to enter the material creation.
However, free will only partially exists in the material creation and only in the human species of life.
Free will does not exist in lower species of life, there is only the urges of eating, sleeping, mating and defending.
Maha-Visnu sees all, beginning, middle and end of all material bodily vessels because He is God and knows past, present and future.
All material bodily vessels are the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
There is always "free will" however, each material body's destiny that the visiting jiva-soul experiences, is already mapped out within the dreams of Maha-Visnu explained above.
And "free will" is factored into the equation in such a way that the free will of each jiva-soul is not affected.
"Free will" always exists in the spiritual worlds that even allows the jiva-souls to except or even reject Krsna by choosing to leave Krsna's association at anytime if they choose.
Such freedom MUST be there if love is to truly exist in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana.
So, from the mistaken desires of the rebellious jiva-soul, that begins when they put their own selfish desires in the centre, instead of first pleasing Krsna, they are "forced" to choose a vessel from Maha-Visnu's "library of dreams" that transfers them to His temporary material creation and into a temporary material bodily vessel (Maha-Visnu's dreams)
This is the beginning of the jiva-souls fall down to the material creation from Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana.
But such fall downs are very rare, less than 10% of jiva-souls fall down from the spiritual planets meaning over 90% of jiva-souls never fall down from the spiritual planets.
Rejecting Krsna means the marginal living entities (jiva-souls) can no longer stay in the spiritual world and are therefore instantaneously transferred out of Vaikuṇṭha or Goloka-Vṛndāvana to the dreams of Maha-Visnu, the pathway to material bodily vessels in His material creation that He is dreaming.
Maha-Visnu knows past, present and future, the jiva-soul already knows and agrees with the entire pathway or journey they have because their "desires" are in sync with the bodily pathway (material bodily vessel) Maha-Visnu is dreaming that the jiva-soul hires.
Within Maha-Visnu's material creation exists every possible "dream" to fulfil every desire the visiting jiva-souls have, every scenario they can come up with is eternally existing in Maha-Visnu's dreams.
This means the jiva-soul's ability to express "free will" is already factored into the equation of the destiny of the material bodily vessel one has chosen to enter as explained above.
The great sages and devotees in previous ages thousands of years ago were "tri-kāla-jñā".
Tri-kāla-jñā means they could understand-
1 - What was in the past,
2 - What there shall be in the future,
3 - And what is at present.
Srila Prabhupada - "So the point is that five thousand years ago the things which were written for this age, how they are coming to be true in our experience. That is the point: how they could see past, present, and future so nicely. The sages were known as tri-kāla-jñā. Tri means three. There is almost similarity, tri and three. Tri is Sanskrit, and three is English or Latin, but there is similarity. Tri-kāla-jñā.
Tri means three, and kāla means mat time and time is experienced by three ways-
past,
present,
future.
Time limitation, past, present and future. Whenever you speak of time, it is past, present or future.
So, the sages in those days were tri-kāla-jñā. Tri-kāla-jñā means they could understand, they could know what was in the past, what there shall be in the future, and what is at present.
Just like in the Bhagavad gītā Kṛṣṇa says-
"My Dear Arjuna, you, Me, I, and all these kings and soldiers who have assembled in this battlefield, they were all individuals, and we are still individual. And in this past, in the future, we shall all remain individuals. That past, present, and future, he explained. Another place Kṛṣṇa says, vedāhaṁ samatītāni (BG 7.26). Atītāni, atītāni means past. Vartamānāni ca, "and present." So that is yogic power, one CAN know past, present, and future." (SB, Canto 12 Ch 2 Text 1 San Francisco, March 18, 1968)
There is still a lot more to learn about the movement of the marginal living entity (jiva-soul) through material space/time's past, present and future.
We have only scratched the surface in understanding Vedic texts in the 50 years since Srila Prabhupada made his valuable contribution to the western world.
The movement of space/time in the temporary material creation is eternally divided into past, present and future as a roadway that has its beginning point (birth), middle (youth and middle age) and end of the roadway (old age and death), but ONLY while the individual jiva-souls are covered by these material bodily vessels directed by the movement of material time (past, present and future)
"Temporary" means the decaying progression of material nature forced by time's movement of past, present and future with its side effect of birth, youth, middle age, old age and death.
Whereas in the spiritual worlds there is only the "permanence" of the "eternal presence" of Krsna where everything is eternally fresh, youthful and never decomposes
In the spiritual planets the jiva-souls ARE their body and no longer possess a material decaying bodily vessel or covering.
All material bodily vessels or bodily containers, are part and parcel of the fabric of "material energy's space/time that is part and parcel of the temporary material creation and takes up 1/4 (25%) of the Spiritual Sky (matter)
The other 3/4s (75%) of the Spiritual Sky are the permanent eternally youthful spiritual worlds (anti-matter) eternally existing in the "eternal presence" beyond the decaying influence of past, present and future that only exists in the material creation.
Within the material bodily vessels as a passenger, the individual jiva-souls are confined within matter as a passenger, riding the the fabric of material energy.
Each material bodily vessel is made of material energy that the jiva-souls (anti-matter) possess or is covered by.
The individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls or anti-matter) are the passengers in the material body made of material energy.
Only "dead material energy" is "all-one" energy when it again merges back into material energy.
Material energy is only moved by the presence of the individual jiva-soul and Kṛṣṇa (Paramatma).
"Dead matter" appears an individual active material bodily vessels ONLY when occupied by life, (the jiva-souls - anti-matter)
Anti-matter is individual life.
However, only because of the presence of the individual jiva-soul (anti-matter) does matter move and appear be living
The jiva-souls (anti-matter) NEVER become "all-one" merged energy like matter does.
"Anti-matter" or spiritual energy, is never "all-one" or "all-pervading" because anti-matter is ALWAYS divided into eternal individual living entities who are Krsna, Visnu-tattva, Sakti-tattva, Siva-tattva and jiva-tattva (the marginal living entities or jiva-souls)
The material bodily forms worn by the jiva-souls, eventually wear out, break's down and dies, then that "matter" that covered the jiva-souls, merges back into the "oneness" of material energy.
Unlike the jiva-souls (anti-matter) who are eternal individual living entities, they NEVER merge as "one-impersonal" all-pervading energy.
Only the presence of the jiva-soul gives the appearance of life in a material body.
The individual jiva-soul is "anti-matter" and NOT "matter."
1 - "Matter" is lifeless dead energy existing in the material creation.
2 - "Anti-matter" is living individual living entities AS spiritual bodily forms that pervades the spiritual world's of the Vaikuntha planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.
The jiva-souls ARE "life", whereas the material energy has no life, it is simply dead matter.
All material bodily vessels are given to the jiva-souls by Maha-Visnu (from His dreams) according to their "desires".
And as the embodied jiva-soul continues their journey in the material creation life after life, the accumulation of the reactions from acting out those original desires, creates pious and impious reactions.
But ONLY in a human material body does the jiva-souls create Karma.
There is no Karma (being responsible for your actions) in the lower species of life where one acts only on the instincts of eating, sleeping, mating and defending.
From the viewpoint of Maha-Visnu and great sages, they see past, present and future in the material creation, all existing simultaneously.
Just like from above one can see the beginning, middle and end of a long winding roadway.
Also with mundane logic, the material desires of an individual marginal living entity (jiva-soul) would eventually repeat themselves over the span of an eternity if they stayed in the material creation long enough.
This is because every combination of material elements would be exhausted to the point they would again repeat over an eternity.
If the jiva-soul chooses to remain in the material creation for an almost eternity, they could experience ththis.l
This is possible because the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are eternal.
But what is really going on?
Even though the material energy is temporary and always in a state of decline and decay, the material energy covering the jiva-souls on its own is all-one dead energy and eternal.
Therefore, when material kingdoms and material bodily vessels decay and are destroyed, the material energy "merges" back into the "oneness" of material energy (unlike spiritual energy or anti-matter which is made up of unlimited "individual" living entities) and will again eventually reappear as different forms and bodily vessels due the movement of material time (past, present and future).
Many have asked, could the past activities of a material body one chooses from Maha-Visnu's dreams, still be happening in the universe's "same space" but happening in a different "time." with another individual jiva-soul playing that same part?
The answer is yes, because the stage is infinity which means eventually everything will eventually happen again because the "pathway" is beginningless and endless.
Infact, this is exactly what's going on.
This is because past, present and future are happening "always" for infinity and is the permanent fabric of the material energy.
This means all material bodily vessel are a permanent 'POST' or roadway that many jiva-souls also experience that same journey.
Just like Lord Brahma's material body is also a POST that many jiva-souls can experience, if qualified, to attain the material body of Brahma.
This further means only those jiva-souls with the right qualifactions can experience what ever bodily vessel they are offered, but only if they deserve it.
To be qualified for any material bodily vessel, one must be trained up and simultaneously have corresponding desires and Karma to qualify and enter a particular material bodily vessel they deserve, desire, rewarded with or punished with.
Once in the material creation, the jiva-souls will eventually take a material body created by their own karma (past good and bad actions)
It is also seems to some that the material universe of material bodily containers or vessels are repeating itself, except with a different batch of individual jiva-souls possessing all material bodily vessels.
This means EVERYTHING already exists eternally and the jiva-souls just move through those permanent pathways of material energy (dreams of Maha-Visnu).
The "material body" is a vessel and is NOT the PERSON because the material vessel is made of material elements that a jiva-soul is covered by and travels through.
The jiva-soul IS the real PERSON, and the material bodily vessel is NOT a PERSON, it is the outer material covering of the eternal jiva-soul.
In fact, as explained above, millions of jiva-souls can experience those bodily pathways of the rich, famous and infamous that are permanent POSTS in the fabric of space-time in the material creation.
As explained, each material bodily pathway (vessel) is the creation of Maha Visnu from His dreams and these dreams (material bodily vessels) are a permanent fixture of Maha-Visnu's material energies.
This means unlimited jiva-souls can "hire" such material bodily pathways (dreams) from Maha-Visnu and also experience that dream.
In other words, the material body is NOT the PERSON, it is the outer vessel the real PERSON within it.
The REAL individual is the jiva-soul within the material bodily vessel, all material bodily vessels are POSTS in the material creation that the visiting jiva-soul to the material creation can experience if they deserve and desire according to desire and Karma.
As explained earlier, all material vessels are "hired " from the dreams of Maha-Visnu which further means unlimited jiva-souls have travelled unlimited bodily pathways because the stage is infinity (endless)
This includes the material body you (the individual jiva-soul) are in now.
The important point is we are NOT the material bodily vessel or container we are presently in, we are the eternal passenger within these temporary vessels.
The material energy is an eternal roadway of space-time that perpetually exists as a permanent pathway of material energy where unlimited jiva-souls traverse along as the passengers of that pathway of material energy.
This means all material bodily vessels are existing from past, present to future like the different points on roadway are also always exists.
In other words, if one can observe past, present and future of the material energy (meaning the different stages from birth to old age of the material bodily vessel) it would look like a permanent pathway the jiva-souls are passing through continuously like one passes over a road that is permanently there.
Therefore it only appears that the material bodily vessels are continually reoccurring when in actual fact they are not.
The jiva-souls are entering a permanent pathway in the fixture of material energy which exists eternally.
Everything is temporary in the material creation and in a constant state of decay and experienced that way as one moves along the pathway.
This is because of the movement of past, present and future that has the side effect of impermanence, decomposition, birth, youth, disease, old age and death.
In the spiritual worlds of Vaikuṇṭha and Goloka Vṛndāvana, only the "eternal presence" of Krsna exists with no concept of past or future and therefore there is no impermanence or decay there.
This means everything there is eternally fresh and youthful in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana the eternal Kingdoms of God.
Temporary material energy makes up all material bodily vessels or containers that the jiva-souls enters as a passenger (covered by).
When these material bodily vessels wears out and decays, they break down into material elements and merges again back into the material energy.
Only the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) always free from material energy, are a perpetual spiritual (anti-matter) bodily forms as their full potential who NEVER decays like matter does.
The jiva-souls eternally remains an individual PERSON separate from the mundane material creation, even though covered by its decaying material material energy in the form of material bodily vessels.
Therefore, the material universes concept of time is governed by past, present and future, but exists ALL at the same time to those who can see from above this mundane movement material time like Maha-Visnu sees.
This means that all material bodily vessels (material energy), like yours and mine we occupy, are all a permanent fixture of the material energy owned by Maha-Visnu.
Such material vessels originate from His dreams of the material universe that are eternally existing through the continuous flow of material space-time as explained above.
All such material bodily vessels exist in Maha-Visnu's "library of material dreams" available to be "hire out" to those jiva-souls who have chosen to visit His material creation after choosing to leave the spiritual planets.
So, as said above, it is the constant flow of material space-time of past, present and future (material energy) that is seemingly repeating itself over infinity as the material bodily vessels.
But in fact are really exhausting the combinations of material elements over infinity to the point the combinations and arrangement of atoms begins again, taking trillions upon trillions of life time of Lord Brahma to achieve.
Brahma's life time in human years is 311 trillion 400 billion years.
Only through the fabric of material energies space-time, do we experience each stage of the life (as past, present and future)
Srila Prabhupada always encouraged us to have personal realizations and yes, the ones here are thought provoking because they are based on Vedic teachings.
George Harrison - "The full potential of expectations achieved in one's existence by finding real permanent happiness, the individual jiva-soul is to AGAIN return back home, back to Godhead, by first finishing up their silly temporary mundane DREAMS of searching for so called fame, fortune and greatness life after life in the mundane decaying material worlds, and simply play in the wonderful forests of Vrindavana eternally with child Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of ALL causes. (George Harrison in his last days, LA California Nov 2001)
Personalism means one does NOT deny who they are as an individual contributing spirit-soul and person, who voluntarily chooses to be an eternal servant of the Supreme Lord, Kṛṣṇa (God).
Those jiva-souls who have choose to leave Vaikuntha and enter the temporary material creation, eventually move through the 8 million 400 thousand species (material bodies) of life in the material world.
Therefore, acquiring the human form of life is extremely rare (there are only 400 thousand species of human beings) and MUST be used properly to AGAIN help re-establish (realise) one's eternal spiritual identity and NOT continue attempting to exploit the material creation life after life (repeated birth and death experienced in a material bodily vessel)
ONLY in the human species can the journey of spiritual life begin because as a human being one can inquire about the purpose of their existence,
where they came from,
what they are doing here,
where they are going.
All the other species (8 million) of material life act only on the urges of eating, sleeping, mating and defending, and NOT free will.
Keep in mind, the "dreams" of Maha-Visnu are almost inconceivable to understand.
When Arjuna viewed past, present and future simultaneously, he was able to see EVERYTHING, past, present and future, he was scared and confused because he was seeing his own future and the future of his family.
And the reason he could see his future is because technically it is already exists in the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
The entire roadway of past, present and future ALWAYS existing as a pathway the embodied jiva-souls traverse down (as explained above)..*÷*..
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