Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this body, not the owner of the material senses. The senses are "hired" from the Supreme Lord. This is very subtle understanding; one should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966, New York City)
All the material bodily vessels in the material creation belong to Maha-Visnu and must be aquired from Him in order to enter the material worlds.
Srila Prabhupada – "This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 Text 83)
To enter the material creation, the visiting jiva-tattvas (jiva-souls) have to approach Maha-Visnu to "hire" a material bodily vessel from Him, in order to experience their own selfish desires separate from Krsna and His Spiritual Abode.
The visiting jiva-souls enter the material creation by first "hiring" a material bodily vessel from the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
Srila Prabhupada – "Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu, as the Brahma-Samhita describes-
This material world is created by the dreaming of Maha-Visnu. The real, factual platform is the spiritual world, but when the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is put into this dreamland of material creation." (4.29.83)
Srila Prabhupada - "Everything happening within time, which consists of past, present, and future, is merely a dream. This is the secret in understanding in all the Vedic literature." (SB. 4.29.2b)
Srila Prabhupada - "Factually all of material existence is only a dream. Thus, there is no question of past, present, or future. Persons who are addicted to karma-kanda-vicara, which means ‘working for future happiness through fruitive activities’, are also dreaming. Similarly, past happiness and present happiness are merely dreams." (Srimad Bhagavatam 4.29.2b)
All material bodies are provided to the jiva-souls who reject Krsna and Visnu by Maha-Visnu.
This includes all material facilities that are also provided by Maha-Visnu to those jiva-souls who can no longer stay in Vaikuntha and Goloka Vrindavana because of their rejection of Krsna or Visnu.
No jiva-souls (marginal living entities) originate from Maha-Visnu; they only move to His abode and then through His dreams (material bodily pathway) according to their desires in their journey into the material creation.
There are unlimited material bodily vessels available to the jiva-souls that instantly place them in Maha-Visnu's material creation.
The jiva-souls (marginal living entities), just like Krsna, were never created and had no origin.
Krsna and the jiva-souls are like the Sun-disc and the sun-rays that cannot exist without each other; therefore, Krsna and the jiva-souls have always existed and were never created.
The permanent home of the jiva-souls is the Vaikuntha Planets of Lord Visnu, or Krsna's central Planet of Goloka Vrindavana, and not the temporary mundane material creation, or being merged inactively (dormant) into the impersonal Brahmajyoti.
From Maha-Visnu's point of view, the movement through material time's past, present, and future all exist simultaneously and is always there as a "permanent pathway" that unlimited jiva-souls are continuously moving through.
Srila Prabhupada – "This material creation is the spirit soul’s dream." (SB Canto 4 Ch 29 Text 83)
All material bodily vessels from the dreams of Maha-Visnu are already set in stone from beginning to its end because Maha-Visnu has already dreamed them.
This is why once the jiva-soul has entered one of Maha-Visnu's dreams and hired a material bodily vessel, nothing in that bodily journey can be changed.
Each material bodily "hired" vessel is also repeatedly available and continuously "re-hired" by other visiting jiva-souls who will also choose to enter the temporary material creation.
Linear-time is the movement from past to present, and then to the future, that is a pathway that moves through the fabric of space-time.
In other words, "linear-time" is where time is seen sequentially, as a series of events that are unfolding along a pathway, from its beginning, middle, and end.
Like seeing the entire journey of a long roadway all at once, one is able to see where the road began, its middle, and its end.
This is like seeing above the movement "linear time" (past, present, and future)
Only Maha-Visnu and rare mystic yogis and devotees can see above linear time, just like one sees an entire roadway from above in an aircraft, its beginning, middle, and end, all at once.
All material bodily vessels are "hired" by the jiva-souls from Maha-Visnu's dreams, from His "Library of Dreams" chosen by those visiting jiva-soul that simultaneously match and are in sync with their own desires.
All material bodily vessels are like a costume "hired out" constantly from the Costume owner's shop, Maha-Visnu, to the visiting jiva-souls.
All of the jiva-soul's desires, choices, and expressions of free will are factored in before the jiva-soul "hire," a particular material bodily vessel to enter the material creation.
However, free will only partially exist in material creation and only in the human species of life. Free will does not exist in lower species of life; there is only the instinct of eating, sleeping, mating, and defending.
Maha-Visnu sees all, beginning, middle, and end of all material bodily vessels because He is God and knows past, present, and future.
There is always free will; however, each material body's destiny that the visiting jiva-soul experiences is already mapped out from the dreams of Maha-Visnu explained above.
And free will is factored into the equation in such a way that the free will of each jiva-soul is not affected.
Free will always exists in the spiritual worlds that allows the jiva-souls to accept or even reject Krsna by deciding to leave Krsna's association if they choose.
Such freedom must be there if love is to truly exist in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana.
So from the mistaken desires of the rebellious jiva-soul, that begins when they put their own selfish desires in the centre, instead of first pleasing Krsna, they are forced to "hire" a material bodily vessel from Maha-Visnu's dreams that transfers them (the jiva-soul) into a temporary material body so they can enter the material creation.
This is the beginning of the jiva-soul's fall down to the material creation from Vaikuntha or Goloka-Vrindavana.
But, such fall downs are very rare, less than 10% of jiva-souls fall down from the spiritual planets.
Rejecting Krsna means the jiva-soul can no longer stay in the spiritual world and is therefore instantaneously transferred out of Vaikuṇṭha or Goloka Vṛndāvana and relocated to the dream bodies of Maha-Visnu (the "hired" pathway of material bodily vessels) material creation.
The jiva-soul already knows and agrees with the entire pathway or journey they have because their desires are in sync with the bodily pathway (material bodily vessel) from Maha-Visnu's dreams they will enter.
Within Maha-Visnu's material creation exists every possible dream to fulfil every desire the visiting jiva-souls have; every scenario they can come up with is eternally existing in Maha-Visnu's dreams.
This means the jiva-soul's ability to express free will is already factored into the equation of the destiny of the material bodily vessel one has chosen to enter as explained above.
Bhagavad-gītā As It Is Chapter 11 Text 7-
"O Arjuna, whatever you wish to see, behold at once in this body of mine! This universal form can show you whatever you now desire to see and whatever you may want to see in the future. Everything moving and nonmoving is here completely in one place."
Srila Prabhupada - "No one can see the entire universe while sitting in one place. Even the most advanced scientists can not see what is going on in other parts of the universe. But, a devotee like Arjuna can see everything that exists in any part of the universe. Kṛṣṇa gives him the power to see anything he wants to see, past, present, and future. Thus, by the mercy of Kṛṣṇa, Arjuna is able to see everything." (Bhagavad-gītā As It Is Chapter 11 Text 7)
The great sages and devotees in previous ages thousands of years ago were "tri-kāla-jñā."
Tri-kāla-jñā means they could understand
1 - What was in the past,
2 - What shall there be in the future,
3 - And what is at present?
Five thousand years ago, instructions from the great Vedic sages were written down for this degraded age of Kali-yuga. Sages and great devotees back then could see past, present, and future.
The sages were known as tri-kāla-jñā. Tri means three. There is almost similarity, tri, and three. Tri is Sanskrit, and three is English or Latin, but there is similarity. Tri-kāla-jñā.
Tri means three, and kāla means time. As said above, time is experienced by three ways -
past,
present,
future.
Material time is limited to past, present, and future. Whenever you speak of time, it is past, present, or future.
So the sages in those days were tri-kāla-jñā. Tri-kāla-jñā means they could understand; they could know what was in the past, what they shall be in the future, and what is at present.
Albert Einstein's theory of special relativity proposes that time is an illusion that moves relative to an observer.
Just like in the Bhagavad gītā Kṛṣṇa says - "My Dear Arjuna, you, Me, I, and all these kings and soldiers who have assembled in this battlefield, they were all individuals, and we are still individual. In this past, in the future, we shall all remain individuals. That past, present, and future, he explained. Kṛṣṇa says, vedāhaṁ samatītāni (BG 7.26). Atītāni, atītāni means past. Vartamānāni ca, and present. So that is yogic power, one can know past, present, and future." (Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 12 Chapter 2 Text 1 San Francisco, March 18, 1968)
In the mundane material creation, the jiva-souls "hire" their material bodily vessels from the dreams of Maha-Visnu that match their own desires.
Those dreams of Maha-Visnu are the massive material universes called Brahmandas, a multi-universe made up of billions of Brahmanda universes as seen in this painting.
And also includes everything living and none-living found deep inside each Brahmanda universe.
In other words, inside each Brahmanda universe is a secondary material universe where Garbhodakashayi Visnu is and where Lord Brahma builds the planet systems.
Maha-Visnu is sleeping surrounded by billions of Brahmanda spherical material universe.
All the material bodily vessels in the material creation belong to Maha-Visnu and must be acquired from Him.
To enter the material creation, the visiting jiva-tattvas (jiva-souls) come to Maha-Visnu to "hire" a material bodily vessel from Him, in order to experience their own selfish desires separate from Krsna and His Spiritual Abode.
Srila Prabhupada - "We are not the owner of this body, not the owner of the senses. The senses are "hired" from the Supreme Lord. This is very subtle understanding; one should know the proprietor of the senses is God." (March 1966 New York City)
The rebellious jiva-souls enter the impermanent material creation known as the "mahat-tattva" via Maha-Visnu's dreaming, this is because they have chosen to either reject Visnu in Vaikuntha (in an all reverence relationship) or Krsna in Goloka-Vrndavana (in a intimite personal relationship of lover or friend, etc).
It is important to understand the jiva-souls left the Kingdom of God not because of any material cause (that cannot exist in Vaikuntha anyway) but simply because of free will of wanting to be a god instead of serving God, and therefore gave up their association with Visnu or Krsna.
One cannot stay in the Lord's eternal abode if they have chosen not to serve Him unconditionally, therefore to do their own thing they must enter the material creation, also run by Krsna but as His Maha-Visnu expansion who builds the material worlds.
This is how we entered the material creation to seek out our own dreams within the dreams of Maha-Visnu.
The temporary decaying material creation takes up 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky.
The Spiritual Sky is all that there is, without beginning or end, and that also includes the smaller temporary material creation as well that is 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky as said above that is always in a state of decay and constant maintenance.
The other 3/4s of the Spiritual Sky are the permanent spiritual worlds of Vaikuṇṭha and Goloka Vrindavana that never decays and is forever fresh (The Kingdom of God)
This temporary material creation we are in are the "dreams of Maha-Visnu."
We have entered His material creation by choosing to try and enjoy separate from Krsna.
We are then given material bodily vessels "hired" from Maha-Visnu's stockpile of "dreams" that always belong to Him and are always available for hire.
Some start as having the material body of Brahma as some Vedic texts claim, and many do not have Brahma as their first birth in the material creation; this is based on their desires to live without Krsna.
All facilities in the material universes (Brahmandas) are provided by Krsna (God) through His Maha-Visnu expansion.
We must not forget that Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and cause of all causes.
However, there is an easy way out of this temporary material creation in this present age called Kali-yuga, and that is by becoming a devotee in Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's great Sankirtan Movement and always chanting Hare Krsna.
By properly using one's free will when possible in the human species, one can find a bonafide Spiritual Master who can lead one out of this mundane material dream creation and return to the only permanent reality of Vaikuntha or Goloka Vrndavana outside this decaying material creation.
Choosing to come to the material creation of mundane selfish dreams was a mistake.
Srila Prabhupada - "Our contact with matter is just like dream. Actually we are not fallen. Therefore, because we are not fallen, at any moment we can revive our Krsna consciousness, we break the dream." (Tokyo Japan 1972: Srimad Bhagavatam 2.9.1)
There is still a lot more to learn about the movement of the marginal living entity (jiva-soul) through material space/time's past, present, and future.
We have only scratched the surface in understanding Vedic texts in the 56 years since Srila Prabhupada made his valuable contribution to the western world.
The movement of space/time in the temporary material creation is eternally divided into past, present and future as a roadway that has its beginning point (birth), middle (youth and middle age) and end of the roadway (old age and death), but only while the individual jiva-souls are covered by these material bodily vessels governed by the movement of material time.
Temporary means the decaying progression of material nature forced by time's movement of past, present, and future with its side effect of birth, youth, middle age, old age, and death.
Whereas in the spiritual worlds, there is only the permanence of the "eternal presence" of Krsna where everything is eternally fresh, youthful, and never decomposes
In the spiritual planets, the jiva-souls are their body and no longer possess a material decaying bodily vessel or covering.
All material bodily vessels or bodily containers are part and parcel of the fabric of material energies space/time that governs the temporary material creation and takes up 1/4 of the Spiritual Sky (matter)
3/4s of the Spiritual Sky are the permanent eternally youthful spiritual worlds (anti-matter) eternally existing in the "eternal presence" beyond the decaying influence of past, present and future that only exists in the material creation.
In the material creation's bodily vessels, the jiva-souls are there as the passengers who are riding within the material energies fabric of material bodily vessels.
Each material bodily vessel is made of material energy that the jiva-souls (anti-matter) possess.
The individual marginal living entities (jiva-souls) are the passengers in the material body made of material energy.
Material energy is "one." The material bodily forms eventually wear out and break down (decay) and merges back into the material energy (material nature)
This forces the individual jiva-soul to leave that unsuitable decomposing material vessel.
Our material bodily vessels are ultimately dead matter only moved by the presence of the jiva-soul.
When the material body is no longer held together by the presence of an individual jiva-soul who possess it.
Only the presence of the jiva-soul gives the appearance of life in a material body.
The individual jiva-soul is anti-matter and NOT matter.
1 - "Matter" is lifeless dead energy existing in the material creation.
2 - "Anti-matter" is living individual living entities AS Spiritual bodily forms that pervades the Spiritual Worlds of the Vaikuntha Planets and Goloka-Vrindavana.
The jiva-souls are living, whereas the material energy has no life, it is simply dead matter.
All material bodily vessels are given to the jiva-souls by Maha-Visnu (from His dreams) according to their "desires".
And as the embodied jiva-soul continues their journey in the material creation life after life, the accumulation of the reactions from acting out those original desires, creates pious and impious reactions.
But only in a human material body does the jiva-souls create Karma.
There is no Karma (the covered jiva-soul responsible for your actions) in the lower species of life where one acts only on the instincts of eating, sleeping, mating and defending.
From the viewpoint of Maha-Visnu and great sages, they see past, present and future in the material creation, all existing simultaneously.
Just like from above one can see the beginning, middle and end of a long winding roadway.
Also with mundane logic, the material desires of an individual marginal living entity (jiva-soul) would eventually repeat themselves over the span of an eternity if they stayed in the material creation long enough.
This is because every combination of material elements would be exhausted to the point they would again repeat over an eternity.
If the jiva-soul chooses to remain in the material creation for an almost eternity, they could experience this.
This is possible because the jiva-souls (marginal living entities) are eternal.
But what is really going on?
Even though the material energy is temporary and always decays, the material energy itself is eternal, but when material worlds and material bodies decay and are destroyed, the material energy will again eventually reappear as different forms and bodily vessels due the movement of past, present and future.
Many have asked, could the past activities of a material body one chooses from Maha-Visnu's dreams, still be happening in the universe's "same space" but happening in a different "time", with another individual jiva-soul playing that same part?
The answer is yes, infact that is exactly what's going on.
This is because past, present and future are happening always simultaneously and are a permanent fabric of the material energy.
This means all material bodily vessel are a permanent 'fixture' in material nature, like a roadway is in a City.
in other words, many jiva-souls travel on that same roadway (in that same material body) and also experience the same journey in the material creation.
Lord Brahma's material body is also a "hired out" position that many different jiva-souls have experience, if they are qualified to enter that material bodily vessel.
All material bodily vessels are "hired" from Maha-Visnu (God)
This further means only those jiva-souls with the right qualifactions can experience what ever bodily vessel they are offered, but only if they deserve it.
To be qualified for any material bodily vessel, one must be trained up and simultaneously have corresponding desires and Karma to qualify and enter a particular material bodily vessel they deserve, desire, rewarded with or punished with.
Once in the material creation, the jiva-souls will eventually take a material body created by their own karma (past good and bad actions)
It is also seems to some that the material universe of material bodily containers or vessels are repeating itself, except with a different batch of individual jiva-souls possessing all material bodily vessels.
Some philosophers like Friedrich Nietzsche call this the "eternal reoccurrence"
But no! That is not what is going on, there is no such thing as eternal reoccurrence, there is only the permanent roadway of material bodily vessels seen above the movement of past, present and future that jiva-souls can repeatly travel on.
This means everything already exists eternally and the jiva-souls just move through those permanent pathways of material energy (that are the dreams of Maha-Visnu).
The material body is not the person (jiva-soul), the material vessel is made of material elements that the jiva-souls are covered by and travels through.
The jiva-soul is the real person, and the material bodily vessel is not a person, it is the outer material covering of the eternal jiva-soul.
So where are Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin today? But who are Hitler and Stalin really?
Actually no-one is because the material body is not a person it is a material vessel made of material energy the jiva-souls "hire" from Maha-Visnu's dreams as explained above.
In fact as explained above, millions of jiva-souls can experience those bodily pathways of the rich, famous and infamous that are permanent pathways in the fabric of space-time in the material creation by also "hiring" those bodily pathways (vessels) from Maha-Visnu.
As explained, each material bodily pathway (vessel) is the creation of Maha-Visnu coming from His dreams.
The dreams (material bodily vessels) of Maha-Visnu are a permanent fixture of His material energies.
They are all simply material vehicles for the jiva-souls to travel in. This means no jiva-souls are created by, or come from Maha-Visnu.
Unlimited jiva-souls who enter the material creation can "hire" such material bodily pathways (dreams) from Maha-Visnu and also experience that dream in sync with their own desires.
In other words the material body is not the person (spiritual bodily form), it is the outer material vessel.
The individual person within the material bodily vessel is the jiva-soul.
This means the individual jiva-souls within the material body of Hitler, Stalin, Churchill etc, are the real persons occupying those material bodies.
The point made here is the jiva-souls are not the material bodily vessel they are in, were in, or will be in.
This is a little complicated to understand, but just like one can wear many different suits, similarly the jiva-souls, over millions of life times, wears millions of material bodily vessels.
All jiva-souls have had millions of different material bodies based on desires and karma, all material bodily vessels in the material creation the visiting jiva-souls can experience, is based on desire and reactions from ones actions while in human form.
As explained earlier, all material vessels are "hired" from the dreams of Maha-Visnu which means unlimited jiva-souls over time have travelled the many bodily roadways, including the material body the individual jiva-souls are in now.
The important point to understand here is we are not the material bodily vessel we are presently in.
And, as explained above, so called "eternal reoccurrence" is not what is happening here because like a roadway, the "hired" bodily vessels always exist as the roadway the jiva-souls journey along as a permanent pathway above the movement of past, present and future.
In other words past, present and future are always all over the material universes.
The material energy is an eternal fabric of space-time that perpetually exists as a pathway of material energy (material bodies) where unlimited jiva-souls traverse along as the passengers of those material bodily pathways made from material energy.
This means all material bodily vessels are existing from past, present to future in different stages like the different points on roadway are also always exists.
In other words, if one can observe past, present and future of the material energy (meaning the different stages from birth to old age of the material bodily vessel) it would look like a permanent pathway the jiva-souls are passing through continuously like one passes over a road that is permanently there.
Therefore, it only appears that the material bodily vessels are continually reoccurring when in actual fact they are not because they are always there divided into past, present and future.
The jiva-souls enter a permanent pathway in the fabric of material energy which exists eternally.
Everything is temporary in the material creation in a constant state of decay experienced as one moves along the pathway.
This is because of the movement of past, present and future that has the side effect of impermanence, decomposition, birth, youth, disease, old age and death.
In the Spiritual worlds of Vaikuṇṭha and Goloka Vṛndāvana, only the "eternal presence" of Krsna exists with no concept of past or future and therefore there is no impermanence or decay there.
This means everything there is eternally fresh and youthful in Vaikuntha and Goloka-Vrindavana the eternal Kingdoms of God.
Temporary material energy makes up all material bodily vessels or containers that the jiva-souls enters as a passenger (covered by).
When these material bodily vessels wears out and decays, they break down into material elements and merges again back into the material energy.
Only the jiva-souls who are no longer covered by material energy, are a perpetual spiritual (anti-matter) bodily form (vigraha) and never decays.
The jiva-souls eternally remains individual persons separate from the mundane material creation, even though covered by decaying material material energy in the form of these material bodily vessels.
Therefore, the material universes concept of time is governed by past, present and future, but exists ALL at the same time to those who can see from above this mundane movement material time that Maha-Visnu always sees.
All material bodily vessels (made from material energy) we occupy, are a permanent fixture of the material energy owned by Maha-Visnu.
Such material vessels originate from His dreams of the material universe that are eternally existing through the continuous flow of material space-time.
All such material bodily vessels exist in Maha-Visnu's "Library Of Material Dreams," and are available for "hire" to those jiva-souls who have chosen to visit His material creation after choosing to leave the Spiritual Planets.
It is the constant flow of all material time of past, present and future that it is seemingly repeating itself as another material bodily vessels but no, there is no repetition or eternal reoccurrence going on, it never went on to begin with there is only the constant movement of jiva-souls travelling through material vessels on a permanent roadway that eternally exists for unlimited jiva-souls to travel through.
Only by properly understanding the fabric of material time can we see each stage of the journey of past, present and future.
In other words, past, present and future are eternally existing together all at the same time from Maha-Visnu's point of view - He sees all.
Srila Prabhupada always encouraged us to have personal realizations and yes, the ones here are thought provoking because they are based on the actual workings of the material universes.
Keep in mind, the dreams of Maha-Visnu are almost inconceivable to understand by most, even when Arjuna viewed past, present and future simultaneously and being able to see everything (past, present and future), he was scared and confused because he was seeing his own future and the future of his family.
The reason he could see his future was because it was already existing like an entire roadway from its beginning, to its middle and at its end.
Each dream of Maha-Visnu is always existing like a pathway that the jiva-souls traverse down (as explained above) This means the jiva-souls are traveling through what is already there, what has always existed.
Another way of understanding this is just like when one rewinds a video tape, the contends captured will always be the same at every stage on the tape, similarly, the material bodily vessels we are now in are a 'post' that always exists for jiva-souls to enter and experience.
This means material time and space is permanently recorded and always exists. Such are the material dreams of Maha-Visnu.
Only by properly understanding the fabric of material time can we see each stage of the journey of past, present and future. In other words, past, present and future are eternally exist together, all at the same time.
Srila Prabhupada always encouraged us to have personal realizations and yes, the ones here are thought provoking because they are based on Vedic teachings.
Keep in mind, the "dreams" of Maha-Visnu are almost inconceivable to understand, even when Arjuna viewed past, present and future simultaneously and being able to see everything (past, present and future), he was scared and confused because he was seeing his own future and the future of his family.
The reason he could see his future was because it was already existing like an entire roadway from its beginning, to its middle and at its end.
Each dream of Maha-Visnu is always existing like a pathway that the jiva-souls traverse down (as explained above) This means the jiva-souls are traveling through what is already there, what has always existed.
Another way of understanding this is just like when one rewinds a video tape, the contends captured will always be the same at every stage on the tape.
Similarly, the material bodily vessels we are now in are a 'post' that always exists for jiva-souls to enter and experience.
This means material time and space is permanently recorded and always exists within the blue print of space-time (the dreams of Maha-Visnu)
Such is the material creation of Maha-Visnu that takes up 25% of the Spiritual Sky..^^^..
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