Wednesday, April 20, 2022

Srila Prabhupada and the Moon?

Srila Prabhupada always maintained they never went to the Moon however, I believe he really meant they never went to the “subtle heavenly reality on the Moon called Chandraloka.”

This technically means there are really two Moons, one subtle and one gross.

This is not properly researched by many ISKCON devotees today as an answer to the Moon controversies and conspiracy theories.

In other words the answer could be explained that there are ”two Moons” in the same space, one we can see and visit in a gross body, and the other, a heavenly realm, we cannot see or enter in a gross material body. 

This is because of its higher dimensional heavenly status.

So let's be clear.

1 – One realm we see in our gross material body,

2 – The other we do not see because it is in a subtle material realm.

So this conclusion is reached because the Moon has two realities, one we can see, the other we can not–

1 – "Subtle" (material reality)

2 – "Gross" (material reality)

We in a gross biological material body cannot see or experience the “subtle heavenly reality on the Moon.” but we can see and experience the “gross matter reality.”

This also answers how man DID go to the Moon.

It is silly that many still believe they never went to the Moon but without a doubt the Apollo missions did happen.

It is foolish to keep denying the fact that we did reach the Moon in our gross material bodily vessel. 

Lets look at the facts in 2022 about these old 1970s Moon landing conspiracy theories claiming, even by Srila Prabhupada, the Moon landings never happened. 

However, as said above, I believe Prabhupada really meant they could never go to the “subtle reality” on the Moon, which is a heavenly material realm called Chandraloka.

As far as the “gross moon” landings are concerned, over 450,000 people worked on the Apollo missions that eventually took man to the Moon in the late 1960s, to keep a secret like this among all these people, believing it was all some clever hoax is impossible.

And today in 2022 many Countries are continuously sending space crafts and probes to the Moon.

Therefore it is not only NASA anymore, it is China, India, Japan, Russia, Israel, European Union.

To claim they are all in on some hoax and conspiracy is ridiculous, the manned Moon landings between 1969 and 1972 DID happen without any doubt, the evidence is overwhelming!

And if Srila Prabhupada’s opinion does not convince me the Moon manned landings never happened and was “all bluff”, then no one else has any chance of convincing me we never went to the “gross Moon."

Where Srila Prabhupada is right is the Astronauts and their space crafts can NEVER enter or perceive the heavenly atmosphere on the Moon.

Srila Prabhupada always maintained they never went to the Moon but I believe he really meant the “subtle reality of the Moon."

As explained above this technically means there are really “two Moons” not considered by the devotees back in the early 1970s.

The Moon landings therefore were not a hoax or some silly Government conspiracy that only 3% of Americans believe in 2022.

Srila Prabhupada’s reasons they never went to the Moon are different from those mundane Conspiracy theories mentioned above.

That is because he knows there is a higher material heavenly reality on the Moon and throughout the material universe that we in gross material bodies, cannot visit or even perceive.

But the Astronauts did go to the gross reality of the Moon.

What we see in the sky and what the Astronauts visited was the “gross Moon” NOT the “subtle Moon” that is not seen.

If we see the Moon from earth then that must be the “gross reality Moon” otherwise we would not be able to see it.

Since 1969, as far as the gross Moon is concerned, many have said they never went to the Moon.

This was also because very little of this new technology was understood back in the late 1960s and early 1970s, even by Prabhupada, and especially by his very young disciples, some with university degrees, all in there early 20s back then, never fully understood it either.

Today in 2022 it is nonsense to continue these mundane conspiracy theories that they never went to the Moon (the gross Moon) such conspiracy theorists never even considered what Prabhupada said all along. And that is the Moon has an unseen heavenly higher dimension to (a subtle reality)

As said above, Srila Prabhupada emphasis they never went to the “subtle heavenly realm on the Moon” called Chandraloka, and he is right!

But they did go to the same gross Moon we see at night.

It seems Prabhupada back then did not discuss this aspect back in the 1970s of two Moon realities (gross and subtle) that make the Moon landings possible.

This means the Moon is both “subtle and gross” matter, making it two Moons in different realities at the same time in the same space.

We cannot see the “subtle matter” but we can see the “gross matter."

After all we all see the Moon at night from Earth which is the gross reality of the Moon.

Back in 1969 they did not understand any of this, it is even fair to say Srila Prabhupada himself seemed to also be trying to understand Vedic Cosmology with his disciples and suggested we need someone qualified in Vedic Cosmology to teach us.

Srila Prabhupada had said he did not know everything about Vedic Cosmology and therefore sent Tamal Krsna Maharaj to Southern India in search of an advanced Brahmana who could teach us the science of Vedic Cosmology and how to properly understand it.

Discussion with that Southern Brahmin is found here-

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1389738784594714?view=permalink&id=1895632647338656

The fact is they did go to the Moon but only to “the gross Moon,” they could not see or enter the “subtle material heavenly atmosphere of Chandraloka” on the Moon.

To be clear, they never went to the subtle heavenly realm on the Moon called Chandraloka that we also cannot see, detect or visit in these gross material bodies.

However the Astronauts DID go to the same Moon we see at night but was the “gross Moon” they visited.

This means the Moon we see from Earth must be the gross aspect of the Moon otherwise we would not be able to see the Moon at night or day. 

We could get into Prabhupada's "incorrect opinion" the Moon is further away from Earth than the Sun is, but that's another article..**..













1 comment:

  1. The truth is, I never excepted Prabhupada's comments in lectures and in His books the Apollo missions between 1969 and 1972 were faked.

    Frankly, I thought even back then in 1972, his opinion was lacking full information.

    All this technology was new back then to everyone.

    This was made more questionable by his comments that the moon is further away from earth than the sun is, as mentioned in the 8th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam.

    And why didn't I speak up back then in ISKCON's pioneering years?

    I was just a naive 20 year old but at 18 years old in 1969, I did spend time with the head scientist at the Radio telescope in Parks NSW that had a major role in the Moon landings that same year.

    I feared if I spoke out against Prabhupada's opinion the Americans never went to the Moon, it would make things difficult for me.

    So, I just played along, I loved prasadam too much and did not want to jeopardise that.

    My attachment to prasadam was EVERYTHING back then, I was young and immature who had nothing, so I just played along.^^

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